All signs pointing to Kira Reynolds joining her sisters in West Lafayette. Those 3 very well could take us to the next level.
Sister Sister… Sister!
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Improving roster depth. Winning more games. Challenging for big ten championships - albeit going to be extremely difficult with the current programs and the 4 coming in. Going deeper in the tournament. That’s the next step for the program and it starts with getting talented kids at all positions on the roster.
This Reynolds family seems legit. Impressive. What are the ramifications are of having 3 sets of sisters in a program however. Are we truly getting the best of the best? Reynolds Sr. didn’t even play at MD. Harper Jr. didn’t have any other B1G offers. Layden Jr only had one other offer from a mid major. It’s unique but is it best for the future of the program or are we riding this out just for short term attention? Other coaches have to look and say how hard is it to grab a sibling. Afraid it makes our recruiting efforts look lazy. CKG just keeps saying “they just love Purdue.” Well, I do too but can they PLAY? Hope so!
An entire roster can’t be made up of all Americans. You need potential stars/starters - and then good depth players who are ok with coming off the bench. There are only so many minutes to go around. Harper Jr is a depth piece with potential to grow into a solid post contribute but will not be expected to be an all big ten player - but at 6’3 and with her physical body type she could potentially help us at least defensively. Layden Jr committed very early in her high school career. It was a foregone conclusion she would be a boilermaker after her offer from KG - why would anyone else try? I’m not sure how good she will be for us right away. But she is a skilled 6’2 shooter who is more athletic/quicker than her older sister. The big thing for me was how she’d do physically as she was slender in high school. But from the looks of recent pics she has rounded into shape physically in the short time she has been here which bodes well for her future with the program. If she develops into a more athletic version of her older sister - she will be a valuable piece for us. Very few freshmen coming in were going to make a dent in playing time at Maryland last year - especially post players so I’m not reading too much into mila’s minutes. But the future core is set for us. The 3 Reynolds sisters, Spider, MA, Poole, Smith - those 7 - will determine how this program goes over the next hopefully 4-6 years.
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Good thoughts. I actually think you can get many All Americans in a program. That’s why we have the UConn’s, Tennesses’s. I also get that some have to be role players. I agree on those 7. Big Smith fan but she doesn’t get the time she deserves. She’s a Miss Basketball for crying out loud. Sensitive topic to discuss appearances I agree, but as you stated Layden Jr needs to be stronger and quicker. She has a nice shot for sure but saying she’s quicker than her sister isn’t really saying much. I do think being physically unhealthy, as M. Reynolds, Harper Jr & Sr, and Layden Sr appear to be, and even JT, doesn’t put us in the best position to compete. Not sure what the team nutritionist is doing but there’s a point where you’re strong and solid, and then there’s a point where you’re out of shape and continue to gain weight. That doesn’t help us build a program of discipline and doing whatever it takes to win.
Huh? How are they physically unhealthy? Because they have thicker bodies? This statement doesn’t make sense. They showed last year that they can compete and beat some of the best athletes from the big ten and other conferences. You have no idea what their health is so saying you’re saying based off pics? This is extremely obtuse.
I think much was said last season about this topic. I agree with those sentiments. Pictures can be one thing but an inability to move up and down the court and withstand the grind, is another. Performances are hampered by physical fitness or lack thereof. That’s true of any elite player in any elite sport, especially the B1G. That doesn’t make my position obtuse, it makes it informed. Several players lack being in elite shape as I stated. That doesn’t change because you want to ignore the impact that has on our ability to win games late into the season and become elite.
I can certainly agree with some of this. I think the talent we have coming in is good enough with proper coaching and development to move up 1-3 spots in the BT standings (5-7 range), but it is FAR from competing for BT titles level of talent IMHO. For nearly every 4 star recruit we are pulling in the 60-100 range of rankings, IU and OSU are pulling a 5 star recruit in the 5-40 range. We are not really closing the talent gap with the top 3-4 programs in the conference yet, but if we keep showing progress and the coaches get more established (and hopefully become elite level recruiters) We might start closing the gap in a few years. To move higher than 5th or 6th KG will have to significantly outcoach Moren, McGuff, Frese, Arico, and/or Green; all of whom have many more years of D1 experience to draw on and equal to better talent on their rosters and incoming at this time. I do not hold Bluder in high esteem, and expect once Clark leaves for Iowa to settle into the middle of the pack for a while.
Please show me the 5 star recruits that IU is pulling in, also show the ones who has helped their program become a top 10 team and big ten champions. Enough talk. Show me evidence to back up your claims.
The only thing that was said was about Layden’s physical abilities. Nothing was said about anyone else and unless you’re a physical trainer working directly with the athletes you have no information to tell me about the physical health of power 5 basketball players who won 19 games and made the ncaa tournament
But let’s compare Moren and KG. Moren inherited a 21 win squad when she took over the helms at IU as the Hoosiers were coming off a quarterfinals appearance in the wnit. Moren - Proceeds to go 36-28, 16-20 in the B10 her first two seasons.Tyra Buss - a player gifted by the previous coaching staff - was just beginning a legendary career - and a huge reason why IU was able to turn the corner as a program. Still - Moren was only able to make 1 NCAA tournament with her.
KG inherited a 7 win train wreck of a program with their two top players transferring out. She proceeds to go 36-26, 16-19 B10 with 2 post season tournaments. Didn’t get to inherit the program’s all time leading scorer.
KG is already recruiting at the level Moren is 3 years in as opposed to Moren’s 10.
KG inherited a 7 win train wreck of a program with their two top players transferring out. She proceeds to go 36-26, 16-19 B10 with 2 post season tournaments. Didn’t get to inherit the program’s all time leading scorer.
KG is already recruiting at the level Moren is 3 years in as opposed to Moren’s 10.
Man, chill. Didn’t realize all discussions and responses needed to be of your same mindset. People can and do have different opinions. Not sure you’re able to think objectively about anything. But this basketball team needs cheerleaders who blindly will follow them. Appears that’s you. Good for you.
Calling out you saying D1 P5 basketball players “unhealthy” isn’t called blind support. It’s called - calling out truly disgusting/ignorant statements made about 20 year old college women.
I stand corrected, IU is about even with us in recruit rankings, UMich is cleaning up in the 24 class with two top 15 commits already and still in the hunt for a couple other top 50 recruits. IU is still after 3 top 25 kids, but I misread the headline thinking they already had commitments from them. Iowa is also doing very well for 24 nd 25 recruits bringing in a couple 5 stars already.
Pride likes to think this is his board and he can be insufferably rude to anyone that he disagrees with and most of the board goes along with his boorish behavior because they are scared of confronting him.
That anyone would get so worked up over a discussion board (indicating discussions are to occur), is laughable. Some aren’t capable of seeing different sides to a discussion. Confidence is quiet. Insecurities are loud.
Good points (and dumb ones) made by everyone above. I dont think anyone is sanely thinking this puts us back up among the national elite yet. But step is probably the best term to be used. The transformation doesn't happen overnight. Looking at who CKG brought in this year, next year and Kira it shows a progression of getting better talent. Certainly better than the last 5-6 years of CSV. I think CKG takes the Painter approach - dont get the best players, get the best players for your team.
I agree with this post almost entirely.
I need to add though that if KG recruits like Painter, she will fail, and in a big way. In the men's game, the top 100 recruits go to 60-80 schools every year and the top 15-20 are gone in one to two years. In the women's game the talent is more concentrated, the top 100 go to 40-60 schools, virtually no one leaves early, and the drop off from 25th rated recruit to the 40th is usually huge. In the men's game once you get past 20 its a crap shoot for the next 100-150 recruits. In the women's game, players outside the top 100 usually do not excel in power conferences to the level of making all conference teams. The talent is still MUCH thinner in the women's game and so you have to recruit at a much higher level to be a contender than in the men's game. The women's equivalent of Painters team in the women's game would not be a top half of the conference team most years.
I need to add though that if KG recruits like Painter, she will fail, and in a big way. In the men's game, the top 100 recruits go to 60-80 schools every year and the top 15-20 are gone in one to two years. In the women's game the talent is more concentrated, the top 100 go to 40-60 schools, virtually no one leaves early, and the drop off from 25th rated recruit to the 40th is usually huge. In the men's game once you get past 20 its a crap shoot for the next 100-150 recruits. In the women's game, players outside the top 100 usually do not excel in power conferences to the level of making all conference teams. The talent is still MUCH thinner in the women's game and so you have to recruit at a much higher level to be a contender than in the men's game. The women's equivalent of Painters team in the women's game would not be a top half of the conference team most years.
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You never know what we have gotten till they are on the court and click together, but I think there is some good potential coming in. There also seems to be more excitement here with these recruits than I can remember for a while. They also seem excited to be here. Time will tell, but encouraging to see. Back to the old days is one of my 3 wishes that I will gladly give.
