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Since Tiller was hired, besides Kory Sheets

You want Beach to start over a Rimington candidate?
That wasn't my point and I believe you knew it!

This is Beach's second year and how much of an impact is he giving? He was one of Brohm's better offensive lineman when recruited. Will he start next year? Will he even be a significant contributor? If not, does that mean it will take him 4 years for him to develop into a starter? That timeline would be totally unacceptable at any other position yet it is the norm for our offensive linemen.

And that's the problem! How many posts do I have to read about how bad and weak our offensive line has been before you admit it's only as good as the players on it? And how long will it take you to admit recruiting elite offensive linemen has never been a priority at Purdue?

And the reason we say they are so few and far between is because we never talk about them and so few of the elite linemen are even offered because they usually commit very early sometimes 2 years early in the recruiting process!
 
Sounds like as long as Beach is OKAY we should be as well. Mendez also but a bad center can cost a team more IMO


Is that the best you can say? He's ok? He's supposedly one of our better ol prospects and he's only Ok? We'll be ok because he's ok. Knight started as a pure freshman and he was only a 3 star. I want us to start recruiting some elite ol that would generate higher praise than he's ok!

I rest my case!
 
That wasn't my point and I believe you knew it!

This is Beach's second year and how much of an impact is he giving? He was one of Brohm's better offensive lineman when recruited. Will he start next year? Will he even be a significant contributor? If not, does that mean it will take him 4 years for him to develop into a starter? That timeline would be totally unacceptable at any other position yet it is the norm for our offensive linemen.

And that's the problem! How many posts do I have to read about how bad and weak our offensive line has been before you admit it's only as good as the players on it? And how long will it take you to admit recruiting elite offensive linemen has never been a priority at Purdue?

And the reason we say they are so few and far between is because we never talk about them and so few of the elite linemen are even offered because they usually commit very early sometimes 2 years early in the recruiting process!

It’s bad, but expecting a second tier program to recruit plug and play lineman is misguided.

Programs like Purdue need to develop guys for 2-3 years. That’s the way tiller did it in large part.

Beach will play otherwise we’re in big trouble
 
That wasn't my point and I believe you knew it!

This is Beach's second year and how much of an impact is he giving? He was one of Brohm's better offensive lineman when recruited. Will he start next year? Will he even be a significant contributor? If not, does that mean it will take him 4 years for him to develop into a starter? That timeline would be totally unacceptable at any other position yet it is the norm for our offensive linemen.

And that's the problem! How many posts do I have to read about how bad and weak our offensive line has been before you admit it's only as good as the players on it? And how long will it take you to admit recruiting elite offensive linemen has never been a priority at Purdue?

And the reason we say they are so few and far between is because we never talk about them and so few of the elite linemen are even offered because they usually commit very early sometimes 2 years early in the recruiting process!

Limit the pain meds?
 
Is that the best you can say? He's ok? He's supposedly one of our better ol prospects and he's only Ok? We'll be ok because he's ok. Knight started as a pure freshman and he was only a 3 star. I want us to start recruiting some elite ol that would generate higher praise than he's ok!

I rest my case!

I want to win the lottery. I demand it so it will happen
 
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Is that the best you can say? He's ok? He's supposedly one of our better ol prospects and he's only Ok? We'll be ok because he's ok. Knight started as a pure freshman and he was only a 3 star. I want us to start recruiting some elite ol that would generate higher praise than he's ok!

I rest my case!

I said as long as he’s ok. We won’t know till Reno
 
Sounds like as long as Beach is OKAY we should be as well. Mendez also but a bad center can cost a team more IMO
Never been a fan of giving backup centers much if any pt. 1) Injury to either one screws entire team. 2) Continuity of offense can be problematic.

Centers must be verbal/non verbal leader and a multi-tasker. And, don't kid yourself-none ever snap the ball the same way. This leads to errors. I don't know how many times I've seen starting C go out and next play is a fumble or bad snap by backup.
 
Ok to my point , name me some elite offensive lineman other than Plue we've signed in the past 20 years. you all seem to be very happy Beech start next year otherwise we're screwed!

I'm kind of tired of accepting the philosophy of that's the way we always do it here at Purdue that's the way Tiller did it and Hope did it and Hazell fit it and now Brohm does it.

Sure we'll be ok. Following the past will lead to the success of the past, how many championships did Tiller produce and what was his average win? 7? 8? But that's not the way elite programs do it. If you want Purdue to become an elite team they need to change their offensive line recruiting and development philosophy. Until that time it will be business as usual.

And with business as usual don't expect any Purdue running back in the future to come close to matching the accomplishments of any of the past
 
Ok to my point , name me some elite offensive lineman other than Plue we've signed in the past 20 years. you all seem to be very happy Beech start next year otherwise we're screwed!

I'm kind of tired of accepting the philosophy of that's the way we always do it here at Purdue that's the way Tiller did it and Hope did it and Hazell fit it and now Brohm does it.

Sure we'll be ok. Following the past will lead to the success of the past, how many championships did Tiller produce and what was his average win? 7? 8? But that's not the way elite programs do it. If you want Purdue to become an elite team they need to change their offensive line recruiting and development philosophy. Until that time it will be business as usual.

And with business as usual don't expect any Purdue running back in the future to come close to matching the accomplishments of any of the past

How many elite oline recruits were on the rose bowl team? Or the 2003 team.

Recruit to the system. Tiller did and did it well early on
 
Never been a fan of giving backup centers much if any pt. 1) Injury to either one screws entire team. 2) Continuity of offense can be problematic.

Centers must be verbal/non verbal leader and a multi-tasker. And, don't kid yourself-none ever snap the ball the same way. This leads to errors. I don't know how many times I've seen starting C go out and next play is a fumble or bad snap by backup.
Which is why Barron wasn’t pulled when he got the unnecessary roughness penalty a couple of weeks ago.
 
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Id put Akeem Hunt up there. More total yards than Void. Problem was, he played for Shoop so no touchdowns. Womp Womp.

DJ actually reminds me a lot of Akeem Hunt. Both were smaller guys who could get lost in the pile and then, boom! they find a little crease and burst into the secondary. Both guys also had a knack for beating the defense to the edge.

And, hey, Hunt bounced around the NFL for a couple years, so maybe DJ will get a chance.
 
Ok to my point , name me some elite offensive lineman other than Plue we've signed in the past 20 years. you all seem to be very happy Beech start next year otherwise we're screwed!

I'm kind of tired of accepting the philosophy of that's the way we always do it here at Purdue that's the way Tiller did it and Hope did it and Hazell fit it and now Brohm does it.

Sure we'll be ok. Following the past will lead to the success of the past, how many championships did Tiller produce and what was his average win? 7? 8? But that's not the way elite programs do it. If you want Purdue to become an elite team they need to change their offensive line recruiting and development philosophy. Until that time it will be business as usual.

And with business as usual don't expect any Purdue running back in the future to come close to matching the accomplishments of any of the past

Man I think it’s just a thing where star linemen are In much lower supply and it shows. They’re coveted and everyone has them at highest priority.

If Karlaftis was from myrtle beach or Denver do you think there’s any way we get him at this point? No way.

Next year when We have a few of them interested to start the year and we potentially get a huge win against TCU and project to be a big time program as time goes on.. yeah maybe we get 1-2. We aren’t there yet
 
Id put Akeem Hunt up there. More total yards than Void. Problem was, he played for Shoop so no touchdowns. Womp Womp.

Forgot about Hunt. I'd definitely rank him ahead of Void, and again, Void is no slouch.
 
I guess to me, I wanted to express how much I admire the way Knox plays. Maybe comparisons were the wrong route. Frost spoke of warriors on that Nebraska team. I can’t think of many players I’ve seen at Purdue where “warrior” fits more than Knox.

Interestingly enough with all these backs coming up in discussion, in the post tiller-hire era, if Markell Jones gets:

352 more rushing yards, he will have more rushing yards than any back other than Sheets

10 more rushing TD he will have more rushing TD than any back except Sheets and Void. He’s already 4th at 16 behind Edwin Watson’s 25.

And just for kicks, Rondale is on pace to break into the top ten all time in receiving yards in Purdue history ... sometime next November lol

 
I guess to me, I wanted to express how much I admire the way Knox plays. Maybe comparisons were the wrong route. Frost spoke of warriors on that Nebraska team. I can’t think of many players I’ve seen at Purdue where “warrior” fits more than Knox.

Interestingly enough with all these backs coming up in discussion, in the post tiller-hire era, if Markell Jones gets:

352 more rushing yards, he will have more rushing yards than any back other than Sheets

10 more rushing TD he will have more rushing TD than any back except Sheets and Void. He’s already 4th at 16 behind Edwin Watson’s 25.

And just for kicks, Rondale is on pace to break into the top ten all time in receiving yards in Purdue history ... sometime next November lol

Rondale is on pace to break the single season record for all purpose yards at Purdue. Unreal pace.

As for Knox. As far as heart, there are few in the last decade I can think of at running back. Taylor maybe
 
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Rondale is on pace to break the single season record for all purpose yards at Purdue. Unreal pace.

As for Knox. As far as heart, there are few in the last decade I can think of at running back. Taylor maybe

But isn’t it fair to say he’s also pretty talented as well. Not that you were saying he wasn’t
 
How many big ten teams would he start for?

To be honest other than Purdue I’ve almost stopped following sports .. so I really know very little about teams until they are coming up, separate of what they were last year.

How many big ten teams would Jerod void start for
 
To be honest other than Purdue I’ve almost stopped following sports .. so I really know very little about teams until they are coming up, separate of what they were last year.

How many big ten teams would Jerod void start for

Not many. I was never as impressed with him as others. He benefitted from being the red zone back
 
Not many. I was never as impressed with him as others. He benefitted from being the red zone back

This is a strong take. I don’t think knox is Ozigbo ... I just think he’s at the very least more talented than the taylors, voids and Lowes of the world
 
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This is a strong take. I don’t think knox is Ozigbo ... I just think he’s at the very least more talented than the taylors, voids and Lowes of the world

Taylor was a better back. Physical talent between him and Knox was similar. Taylor was one tough sob who never lost yards

Lowe was talented, just lost his edge.

As for Knox, until this year I thought his vision was pretty poor. He ran to darkness quite a bit. Barclay’s coaching must be resonating
 
Yeah, harris was the most talented back of the tiller era by far. 10 or 11 wins in 2003 if he is eligible. Ugh.

“He who shall not be named” went a long way toward costing us a magical season...
 
Where would Knox start:

IU
NU
MSU (they struggled to get their running game going)
Minny
Nebraska

Honestly think Knox would have a good chance starting at those schools at some point this season.
Illinois has two real good RB’s that average above 6 ypc and no way is he starting st UM, PSU, OSU, Whisky, Rutgers, or Maryland.
 
Is that the best you can say? He's ok? He's supposedly one of our better ol prospects and he's only Ok? We'll be ok because he's ok. Knight started as a pure freshman and he was only a 3 star. I want us to start recruiting some elite ol that would generate higher praise than he's ok!

I rest my case!
Indiana is very thin on recruits in 2020. In fact, the only 4* I can find is the OL from Carmel. That would be a good place to start.
 
Where would Knox start:

IU
NU
MSU (they struggled to get their running game going)
Minny
Nebraska

Honestly think Knox would have a good chance starting at those schools at some point this season.
Illinois has two real good RB’s that average above 6 ypc and no way is he starting st UM, PSU, OSU, Whisky, Rutgers, or Maryland.
That Nebraska RB was a load. I thi k there would at least be a competition. Love Knox though, he probably would win out.

As for the original question, I loved the Akeem's (Hunt and Shavers)
 
I think Knox can find a spot on an NFL roster. I have no clue as to his "measurables" (ie 3-cone drill, 40,shuttle, etc) BUT.... he has great balance, vision, explosive. Decisive off the ball and durable. He possesses soft hands, rarely fumbles and is a good blocker. He has some elusiveness when he gets in open field and decent speed.

Oh... and did I mention that he is TOUGH as nails! He runs thru tackles and is the most competitive player on this team. Excellent upper body strength combined with large muscled thighs. Only negative is lack of lower body flexibility. Yes...I have a major man crush on DJ. However, I also had a hardon for Trent Richardson too???
 
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