sideline signals

[speakezee]

i claim no expertise about how the coaches are managing the game but i thought I noticed something at last night's game that caused me to wonder. When Blough first came into the game, it seemed to me that part of his effectiveness had to do with how quickly he was able to run the offense. but later in the game, it seemed like things slowed down because he had to take time to stare satthe sideline signs prior to each snap that were being held up to give him the play. Was this just my imagination? if not, why can't we always run satthe fast speed?it clearly seemed to spark the offense. just curious.

 

[stout1]

The ability to run tempo at a high level and non-stop basis is a matter of practice and commitment.

When he for came in he was likely working off a small set of scripted plays that were easy to send in and communicate. Once he settled in and the game progressed they slowed down.

 

[Dakota Girl]

The ability to run tempo at a high level and non-stop basis is a matter of practice and commitment.

When he for came in he was likely working off a small set of scripted plays that were easy to send in and communicate. Once he settled in and the game progressed they slowed down.

From a coaches perspective you must be able to control tempo. Meaning your team needs to be able to play well at a fast tempo or at a slow one. If you have a small lead and run eight plays burning 4 minutes that's much better than only burning two.

 

[stout1]

From a coaches perspective you must be able to control tempo. Meaning your team needs to be able to play well at a fast tempo or at a slow one. If you have a small lead and run eight plays burning 4 minutes that's much better than only burning two.

True but you can also dictate tempo as a weapon.

Oregon never really slowed down and that was the killer. But it takes a commitment to playing that way.

 

[Dakota Girl]

True but you can also dictate tempo as a weapon.

Oregon never really slowed down and that was the killer. But it takes a commitment to playing that way.

I am agreeing, I think. The word Tempo does not carry a quantitative definition on its own. A team can play fast or play slow tempo. It needs to be capable of either to fit a given situation is what I am attempting to say.
Edit: now I see what you are saying. You mean that the ducks never slowed down. As long as you score a lot it works. If you don't your D pays the price.

 

[FirstDownB]

Hurrying up to the line prevents the defense from subbingand gives you the option to either go quickly or read the defense and call in a play. I assume the long looks to the sideline indicate the original play call is being modified based on the defensive look. It has been a good strategy so far. Basically an audible coming from a seasoned football expert with 30+ years of experience instead of a 20 year old QB.

 

[Dakota Girl]

Hurrying up to the line prevents the defense from subbingand gives you the option to either go quickly or read the defense and call in a play. I assume the long looks to the sideline indicate the original play call is being modified based on the defensive look. It has been a good strategy so far. Basically an audible coming from a seasoned football expert with 30+ years of experience instead of a 20 year old QB.

Yes. And hopefully we will have a QB stay in the job long enough to be able to add a QB audible like changing a route to take advantage of a specific defenders positional technique that the coach can't see. It feels like the last four years have been "the next freshman up" approach, therefore never having any experience at the position. I think it will be Blough, Then Sindelar will step in already experienced.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

Yes. And hopefully we will have a QB stay in the job long enough to be able to add a QB audible like changing a route to take advantage of a specific defenders positional technique that the coach can't see. It feels like the last four years have been "the next freshman up" approach, therefore never having any experience at the position. I think it will be Blough, Then Sindelar will step in already experienced.

I doubt with a coach like Brohm that Blough is going to see something he won't see himself. This is why the team lines up and then gets a potential new play call to check in to.

 

[Dakota Girl]

I doubt with a coach like Brohm that Blough is going to see something he won't see himself. This is why the team lines up and then gets a potential new play call to check in to.

Oh yes the coach knows more. I don't mean from a knowledge standpoint. I mean there may be something in terms of a defender being off his mark in a way that a quick audible to that receiver could get you a first down. It's darn hard to see the far side of the field from the sideline with a 2.5 foot crown and all those big bodies.

 

[BoilerBiker]

on the btn tour, they mentioned looking to the sideline for plays and asked brian brohm how much control of the offense the QB has.

sounded like they typically don't allow for audible or change (in part due to tempo). instead the QB 'diagnoses' after getting the play call

http://video.btn.com/btn-bus-tour-purdue-co-oc-brian-brohm

 

[CalBoiler]

i claim no expertise about how the coaches are managing the game but i thought I noticed something at last night's game that caused me to wonder. When Blough first came into the game, it seemed to me that part of his effectiveness had to do with how quickly he was able to run the offense. but later in the game, it seemed like things slowed down because he had to take time to stare satthe sideline signs prior to each snap that were being held up to give him the play. Was this just my imagination? if not, why can't we always run satthe fast speed?it clearly seemed to spark the offense. just curious.

I believe part of Purdue's strategy in the 2nd half was to burn some clock, so no reason to be up tempo.

 

[PU52Chevy]

Plus depth is needed and experienced player who know the system and playbook...since Brohm is new nobody knows all the plays yet 100%.

Next year or year 3 look out.

 

[ck3boilers]

Don't make it harder than it needs to be. We had a 20 point lead in the 2nd half. Burning clock......

 

[BoilerGal74]

We just need to hope for few injuries...since we have very little depth. If we can do that I think our season can surprise a lot of folks and make recruiting a lot easier in the future...

 

[ossim]

New offensive system requires more maturity. There's enough new faces with the transfers and freshmen that the staff wouldn't want to overwhelm them. I read something from Chip Kelly on the Oregon offense, and he said the ability to run plays in quick succession heavily depended on the experience level of the offensive line.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

New offensive system requires more maturity. There's enough new faces with the transfers and freshmen that the staff wouldn't want to overwhelm them. I read something from Chip Kelly on the Oregon offense, and he said the ability to run plays in quick succession heavily depended on the experience level of the offensive line.

I think you hit a key point...especially in Brohm's offense. The offensive line is pretty veteran and I think most would agree that the interior OL are all smart and very capable players...especially Barron. But finding some tackles who could pick up the communication and schemes was highly important and I believe Brohm and his staff made that an incredible point of emphasis.

I think the other key is although Purdue's WR's are playing very well....they are likely not playing their best combination of WR's up to this point. Brohm himself said that the new guys (Wright, Zico, and one of the freshman) didn't have a command of the playbook yet and that has limited them up to this point. Now in week three, you could see more and more of those players on the field which gives the offense more capabilities. If the drops are taken care of, Purdue is likely behind only PSU, Whisky, and Michigan in terms of having an offense that is capable of running and throwing the ball (IU is still very good at throwing it...they are just horrible at running it).

The game against Missouri likely shows really where Purdue stands right now and where the season could likely end up. If Purdue is able to get a W, it is a good opportunity for Purdue to get wins against Rutgers, Illinois, Northwestern, and a potential toss-up against Minnesota and Indiana. A potential 7 win season in his first season that would see 8 returning offensive players (2 are Phillips and Mahoungo and those are replaced by Wright and Zico...so potentially 10 on offense) but loses 7 on defense (returning Neal, Bailey, Jallow, and Theineman but also have players in the 2 deep that have started/played heavily in Wilson, Jones, and Mosley). If Brohm is able to find the pieces to replace on defense for Holt...Purdue could be a very good team next season and likely looked at finishing somewhere between 3 and 5 in the West....also Purdue's first four games are at home and never play back to back away games (have an away game, bye week, and away game though). That's an incredible advantage for next season and hopefully the fans come out in droves to support the team.

 

[pboiler18]

I think you hit a key point...especially in Brohm's offense. The offensive line is pretty veteran and I think most would agree that the interior OL are all smart and very capable players...especially Barron. But finding some tackles who could pick up the communication and schemes was highly important and I believe Brohm and his staff made that an incredible point of emphasis.

I think the other key is although Purdue's WR's are playing very well....they are likely not playing their best combination of WR's up to this point. Brohm himself said that the new guys (Wright, Zico, and one of the freshman) didn't have a command of the playbook yet and that has limited them up to this point. Now in week three, you could see more and more of those players on the field which gives the offense more capabilities. If the drops are taken care of, Purdue is likely behind only PSU, Whisky, and Michigan in terms of having an offense that is capable of running and throwing the ball (IU is still very good at throwing it...they are just horrible at running it).

The game against Missouri likely shows really where Purdue stands right now and where the season could likely end up. If Purdue is able to get a W, it is a good opportunity for Purdue to get wins against Rutgers, Illinois, Northwestern, and a potential toss-up against Minnesota and Indiana. A potential 7 win season in his first season that would see 8 returning offensive players (2 are Phillips and Mahoungo and those are replaced by Wright and Zico...so potentially 10 on offense) but loses 7 on defense (returning Neal, Bailey, Jallow, and Theineman but also have players in the 2 deep that have started/played heavily in Wilson, Jones, and Mosley). If Brohm is able to find the pieces to replace on defense for Holt...Purdue could be a very good team next season and likely looked at finishing somewhere between 3 and 5 in the West....also Purdue's first four games are at home and never play back to back away games (have an away game, bye week, and away game though). That's an incredible advantage for next season and hopefully the fans come out in droves to support the team.

The above highlighted about the D is why he is going to continue to play the 3 true FR LBs on special teams all year. Trying to get them game experience because they will all be needed next year.

I think the Rob simmons kid can step in as a Sr next year and play. We just picked up a JUCO DE/LB they think can play. If 2 of the SO step up next year we should be fine and that doesn't take into account transfers and JUCOs we will target.

Look for more dead weight to be cut from the roster again next year as Brohm brings in more players to contribute!