If the point is that he would be facing a rebuild I agree. I have no visibility to the quality of the younger players he’s brought in as to your point, he played one of the oldest teams in the country this year. Easier to rebuild in the portal era but a big ask regardless.
For someone who places such a high value on Matt’s NCAA performance, you sure are minimizing Micah’s NCAA victory.
You must have me confused. The idea of firing the B1G championship coach is ridiculous. I haven't written that anywhere on this board. In fact there are posts from earlier in the year where I state that our goal should be to win the B1G championship each year and let whatever happens in the tournament happen. I guess I wasn't contemplating how I would feel if we lost to a 16 seed.
I guess we are close to agreeing. His record at Penn State was very similar to Chamber's last few years. In fact Chambers was 11-9 in conference in his last year.
My bad. I thought you were one of the “NCAA is all that matters” crowd.You must have me confused. The idea of firing the B1G championship coach is ridiculous. I haven't written that anywhere on this board. In fact there are posts from earlier in the year where I state that our goal should be to win the B1G championship each year and let whatever happens in the tournament happen. I guess I wasn't contemplating how I would feel if we lost to a 16 seed.
My problem with the whole Micah narrative is that he somehow turned Penn State around. They weren't any better this year than they were in Chambers last year and next year they are going to be god awful unless someone comes in with a lot of transfers, They would have been bad even if Micah had stayed.
Micah, at 47 has had quite a few stops:
It’s all about getting the better deal. The last two HC’s that beat Purdue in the NCAA moved to higher paying gigs 5 seconds after they lost their last games. MS is no different than anyone else. But I do find it humorous when coaches talk about creating/ setting a culture (John Harrah) this and family that, and then bolt themselves. I don’t blame them at all for saying whatever they need to, to maximize their successes at their current jobs, until that bigger payday comes around. It’s just seems two faced or just false to me.
I think where we disagree is that in my view, after Chambers was fired the next coach coming in was more likely to have Minnesota like results than to be highly competitive in the Big Ten and win an NCAAT game.
All 20 of them are really mad!
Shrews was just continuation of the results under Shrews. Just okay.
Except that Chambers wasn't 'business as usual' at Penn State. Those 17-18 and 19-20 seasons were as good as they'd had at PSU and Micah's year this year was as good or better than either of those. Pat was great but he also didn't leave the program on great terms, which you're seeming to ignore.
You're asking someone to cite a conversation? How do you do that? A conversation? I'm honestly curious.
