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Schiano deal off at Tennessee

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Just posted on their board.

I can't believe merchants said he wouldn't be welcome in their shops.

And some are clamoring for Kiffin to come back.

Greg Schiano will not be the Vols' next head coach.

According to VolQuest.com sources, Tennessee's talks with the Ohio State defensive coordinator broke down on Sunday evening following unprecedented fan backlash on social media and UT's campus.

Schiano appeared set to replace Butch Jones, as multiple outlets, including VolQuest.com, reported negotiations were taking place Sunday. Tennessee's first-year athletics director John Currie flew up to Columbus, Ohio in hopes of bringing Schiano, 51, back to Knoxville for an announcement this evening.

However, when Schiano's potential hiring was leaked, the news was met with a thunderous social media storm and protests on campus due to allegations against Schiano in the Jerry Sandusky scandal at Penn State.

After a wild day, Tennessee's coaching search will now move forward with greater uncertainty. At some point in the near future, Currie is expected to address the media to discuss today's unfoldings, per sources.

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Just a reminder that Purdue remains a rather sane place as other schools completely lose all perspective about and civil behavior around athletics. These folks are nuts.
The fans are not nuts. Their administration is crazy. Good for their fans for blocking this.
 
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What is it that he was alleged to have done in the Sandusky scandal?
 
I doubt this has anything to do about Schiano's time at Penn State.

Let's remember, this is a school that just shelled out $2.5M to make allegations that eight of its football players committed sexual assault go away.

When it comes to football, Tennessee is the Nebraska of the South. They don't want Schiano. The Sandusky case is the cover story.
 
I doubt this has anything to do about Schiano's time at Penn State.

Let's remember, this is a school that just shelled out $2.5M to make allegations that eight of its football players committed sexual assault go away.

When it comes to football, Tennessee is the Nebraska of the South. They don't want Schiano. The Sandusky case is the cover story.

Word is they offered Gruden $10 million a year....holy smokes!
 
What is it that he was alleged to have done in the Sandusky scandal?
From the Washington Post....


Former Penn State assistant coaches Greg Schiano and Tom Bradley knew that Jerry Sandusky, their colleague on Joe Paterno’s football staff, was acting improperly with young boys years before law-enforcement authorities were first notified, according to testimony from former Penn State assistant Mike McQueary that was unsealed Tuesday by a Philadelphia court.

McQueary, who testified in Sandusky’s 2012 criminal case that he had told Paterno of seeing Sandusky rape a boy in 2001, said in the 2015 deposition that he had “briefly” discussed with Bradley what he had seen.

“He said another assistant coach had come to him in the early ’90s about a very similar situation to mine, and he said that he had — someone had come to him as far back as early as the ’80s about seeing Jerry Sandusky doing something with a boy,” McQueary said.
 
Don't care to know the specifics of what he might have saw but if he reported it to his boss I'm probably not going to hold it against him 20-30 years later. We're talking about a guy that was about 25 years old at the time and we don't even know what he might have seen. I do know that somewhere along the line someone at Penn State needed to go to the authorities and didn't. I'm not sure that responsibility necessarily belongs to a low-level GA depending on what he saw and reported to his boss at the time.
 
Don't care to know the specifics of what he might have saw but if he reported it to his boss I'm probably not going to hold it against him 20-30 years later. We're talking about a guy that was about 25 years old at the time and we don't even know what he might have seen. I do know that somewhere along the line someone at Penn State needed to go to the authorities and didn't. I'm not sure that responsibility necessarily belongs to a low-level GA depending on what he saw and reported to his boss at the time.
That responsibility belongs to anyone who saw anything. We're talking about abusing children for Christ's sake.
 
That responsibility belongs to anyone who saw anything. We're talking about abusing children for Christ's sake.

Do you know he saw Sandusky abusing children? It's easy to sit here a damn him without knowing all the facts. Has Schiano been charged with anything in all of this? I guess I just don't assume the worst. Maybe he saw something suspicious but didn't necessarily catch anything illegal going on. In such circumstances I think the right move would be to report it to your superior in a work setting.
 
I still think this has far more to do with Schiano's coaching record than with the Sandusky scandal.

This is a university that has twice papered over allegations of sexual misconduct in its own football program.
 
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I tend to agree with previous posters that the Sandusky thing is a convenient excuse. The fans are just delusional and will accept nothing less than Jon Gruden.
 
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Do you know he saw Sandusky abusing children? It's easy to sit here a damn him without knowing all the facts. Has Schiano been charged with anything in all of this? I guess I just don't assume the worst. Maybe he saw something suspicious but didn't necessarily catch anything illegal going on. In such circumstances I think the right move would be to report it to your superior in a work setting.
I lived in PA when that stuff was being investigated. There is a MSM narrative that doesn’t match much of what was actually investigated and prosecuted. The Schiano allegations are pretty weak and he vehemently denied them. At this point I doubt we will ever know what truly happened but should be comforted that the monster is behind bars.
 
Being a Vol fan, the scandal is more than enough smoke to not hire based upon the previous Title IX issues the University had. Add the fact that Schiano has a .504 winning percentage and it is not a good fit at all.

While a small part thought the Gruden thing had legs, most simply saw that as a pipedream at best.

It is not about finding the next Saban. It is more that the fanbase is tired of the ship being ran into an iceberg and sat on fire. Then have another ship plow through the wreckage and capsize the rescue boats.
 
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Being a Vol fan, the scandal is more than enough smoke to not hire based upon the previous Title IX issues the University had. Add the fact that Schiano has a .504 winning percentage and it is not a good fit at all.

While a small part thought the Gruden thing had legs, most simply saw that as a pipedream at best.

It is not about finding the next Saban. It is more that the fanbase is tired of the ship being ran into an iceberg and sat on fire. Then have another ship plow through the wreckage and capsize the rescue boats.
UT has long been known as a place that commits murder on FB coaches. The inmates run the asylum. In Knoxvile, it's SNAFU.

My son is a UT fan who goes to several FB/BB games a year. Going to be an interesting conversation.
 
I still think this has far more to do with Schiano's coaching record than with the Sandusky scandal.

This is a university that has twice papered over allegations of sexual misconduct in its own football program.
No way. If someone at Purdue tried to hired Schiano after these allegations, we would have all gone nuts as well. UT fans by usually be crazy, but I give them credit for standing up yesterday.
 
Being a Vol fan, the scandal is more than enough smoke to not hire based upon the previous Title IX issues the University had. Add the fact that Schiano has a .504 winning percentage and it is not a good fit at all.

While a small part thought the Gruden thing had legs, most simply saw that as a pipedream at best.

It is not about finding the next Saban. It is more that the fanbase is tired of the ship being ran into an iceberg and sat on fire. Then have another ship plow through the wreckage and capsize the rescue boats.

Just a curious question, Vol Guy, but why is Gruden the pipe dream? He hasn't worked in college football since '91, and, while he was a solid NFL coach, he's not exactly Vince Lombardi. He hasn't coached anybody in a decade.
 
I lived in PA when that stuff was being investigated. There is a MSM narrative that doesn’t match much of what was actually investigated and prosecuted. The Schiano allegations are pretty weak and he vehemently denied them. At this point I doubt we will ever know what truly happened but should be comforted that the monster is behind bars.
Yeah I don't recall ever hearing Schiano's name associated with the Sandusky case.
I lived 2 houses from Sandusky a couple years before he was arrested.
 
Just a curious question, Vol Guy, but why is Gruden the pipe dream? He hasn't worked in college football since '91, and, while he was a solid NFL coach, he's not exactly Vince Lombardi. He hasn't coached anybody in a decade.

That's just it. Why would he want to get back into the grind? Realists thought there would be no chance.
 
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