Rozelle Nix......big big man

[PU52Chevy]

Big tall young man with 2 years left to play.......

Status: Transferring from Pittsburgh
(Transferred in from Juco and redshirted and now transferring so available now for 2017)
Year 2013 (RS JR)
Position: C Height: 6-11 Weight: 300
HometownCincinnati, OH
High School: Kingdom Preparatory Academy
Junior College: Pensacola Junior College

If Painter is looking for a big body for rebounding and we all know Josh in our athletic department will whip him into shape and keep off those pounds......let me stress he would need to commit to keeping the weight off and work on his quickness but he would clog the middle for sure and long arms and a nose for contact.

I am just posting this because Yanni Wetzel has verballed to Vanderbilt.....so another option to "beef up" and secure the boards and have Ewing, V. Edwards, Haarms, Taylor, Haas and Nix........

I am all in on Taylor doing great but could be a good plan B and back up.......

I also need to say I like the 5's we have offer's out to for 2018 as well.....so either way is good options.

Just a thought......Boiler Up!

 

[Statey]

Wow, that is one big dude.

 

[Do Dah Day]

Unless I'm missing something, he is transferring D1 to D1 - so he must sit out a year...redshirting has nothing to do with the transfer rules. He doesn't appear to be a graduate transfer ... is he?

 

[PU52Chevy]

Unless I'm missing something, he is transferring D1 to D1 - so he must sit out a year...redshirting has nothing to do with the transfer rules. He doesn't appear to be a graduate transfer ... is he?

Juco that transferred to Pitt (played some pre-conference games) but then redshirted now transffering again, so he can transfer anywhere and play right away because he sat out last year. He is technically a red-shirt JR and since his last year at Pitt wasn't considered playing he is available now just like he would be transferring in from Juco but via a Pitt stop at Pitt. (Sorry had to throw in a Indy 500 plug).

I have no idea even if Painter is interested....just throwing this out there...

 

[BoilerBiker]

Wow, that is one big dude.

ya big enough I remember him from a Pitt game last year.

he and swanigan had quite the weight loss battle apparently

 

[Wolegib]

on a related note. Illinois sophomore 6'7 swingman DJ Williams announced his intentions of transferring today. he would have to sit out a year. he was once a 4* prospect from Chicago Simeon who saw his playing time cut in half as a sophomore last year.

While I hope Purdue has no intentions of recruiting him, it points out what is now becoming common place. A 4* athlete doesn't get the playing time he believes he deserves,, the school signs a Mr. Basketball, and the player requests a transfer.

 

[PU52Chevy]

ya big enough I remember him from a Pitt game last year.

he and swanigan had quite the weight loss battle apparently

Yep that's him.....long arms and a nose for contact....he looks down to about 255 or 265......Hope Painter takes a look at him.....I love Blue Collar young men like him that put in the work to succeed.

 

[Wolegib]

the kid looks great and like he has taken a lot of effort to get into playing shape.

 

[TX4GB]

We can sell him on the dedicated meal program that Swanigan had. He could give Haas a breather and rotate in and out like Haas and AJ did. I want Biggie back but this is a Biggie Biggie backup.

 

[M51]

Juco that transferred to Pitt (played some pre-conference games) but then redshirted now transffering again, so he can transfer anywhere and play right away because he sat out last year. He is technically a red-shirt JR and since his last year at Pitt wasn't considered playing he is available now just like he would be transferring in from Juco but via a Pitt stop at Pitt. (Sorry had to throw in a Indy 500 plug).

I have no idea even if Painter is interested....just throwing this out there...

Thanks, but no thanks! Pass on this dude. Not that it matters, only has one yr of eligibility remaining. He red shirted at Pitt for 2015-2016, played 20 games in 16-17 and two yrs of JC.

 

[TX4GB]

His brother plays for the Steelers. Brohm could use some big bodies on the line.

 

[boiler800]

Big tall young man with 2 years left to play.......

Status: Transferring from Pittsburgh
(Transferred in from Juco and redshirted and now transferring so available now for 2017)
Year 2013 (RS JR)
Position: C Height: 6-11 Weight: 300
HometownCincinnati, OH
High School: Kingdom Preparatory Academy
Junior College: Pensacola Junior College

If Painter is looking for a big body for rebounding and we all know Josh in our athletic department will whip him into shape and keep off those pounds......let me stress he would need to commit to keeping the weight off and work on his quickness but he would clog the middle for sure and long arms and a nose for contact.

I am just posting this because Yanni Wetzel has verballed to Vanderbilt.....so another option to "beef up" and secure the boards and have Ewing, V. Edwards, Haarms, Taylor, Haas and Nix........

I am all in on Taylor doing great but could be a good plan B and back up.......

I also need to say I like the 5's we have offer's out to for 2018 as well.....so either way is good options.

Just a thought......Boiler Up!

He was recruited in JC by Purdue and ended up at Pitt...so CMP is familiar with this guy.

 

[Wolegib]

Thanks, but no thanks! Pass on this dude. Not that it matters, only has one yr of eligibility remaining. He red shirted at Pitt for 2015-2016, played 20 games in 16-17 and two yrs of JC.

so he has one year left, and doesn't have to sit out? he would be like a grad transfer and only play next year. He looks great, but has he played any college ball after he lost all that weight ?

 

[nagemj02]

so he has one year left, and doesn't have to sit out? he would be like a grad transfer and only play next year. He looks great, but has he played any college ball after he lost all that weight ?

He played for Pitt this past season (redshirted the previous season): http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3934653/rozelle-nix

I'd pass on him. If someone fills Swanigan's presumed vacancy, it would be nice to have a big that's quicker and more mobile than Haas and Taylor (shot-blocking ability would be a plus as well). I don't think Nix is that guy. He's the definition of a plodder.

 

[PU52Chevy]

so he has one year left, and doesn't have to sit out? he would be like a grad transfer and only play next year. He looks great, but has he played any college ball after he lost all that weight ?

He is listed as a RS Junior so not sure why he doesn't have 2 years left.....

 

[PU52Chevy]

Thanks, but no thanks! Pass on this dude. Not that it matters, only has one yr of eligibility remaining. He red shirted at Pitt for 2015-2016, played 20 games in 16-17 and two yrs of JC.

He is listed as a RS Junior....so wonder why he doesn't have 2 years left.....

 

[PU52Chevy]

He was recruited in JC by Purdue and ended up at Pitt...so CMP is familiar with this guy.

Oh good info to know.....thx

 

[PU52Chevy]

Unlike others, I think he would be a good fit especially if it is just for 1 year....

A mix of Haas, Taylor and Nix at the 5 excites me and gives depth.

That leaves the 4 spot for Ewing, Haarms and V. Edwards if he wants to move over from the 3 spot.

If Nix only has one year we still look good to the 2018 bigs we are recruiting.

Win Win in my book.......no matter what Nag the negative nelly says.

 

[M51]

He is listed as a RS Junior....so wonder why he doesn't have 2 years left.....

Real slow........he played two years of JC ball. One yr red shirt at Pitt. Then played 20 or so games in 16-17. Only leaves one yr of eligibility.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

He's not a plan A guy, but if he is willing to wait until Swanigan decides and then provide depth for a year if Biggie leaves, it might make sense. He averaged 14.6 rebounds per 40 minutes in conference play last season, so he might be able to provide some quality minutes when called upon, even if he fails to crack the rotation and without proven depth behind Haas, cracking the rotation wouldn't be out of the question.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

Unlike others, I think he would be a good fit especially if it is just for 1 year....

A mix of Haas, Taylor and Nix at the 5 excites me and gives depth.

That leaves the 4 spot for Ewing, Haarms and V. Edwards if he wants to move over from the 3 spot.

If Nix only has one year we still look good to the 2018 bigs we are recruiting.

Win Win in my book.......no matter what Nag the negative nelly says.

I think I have pointed this out before...but no way does Haarms play the 4 at Purdue. Simply can't guard the wing well enough against smaller players effectively enough that it would cause over rotation for help or would force the centers to step in and then constantly give up easy buckets in the lane. Haarms is athletic but I don't see a kid who is above athletically that Hammons was and Hammons couldn't guard most PF's or SF's on the wing. As an example....would you let Haarms guard Vince or would you constantly wonder why CMP is allowing a player to get beat off the dribble or sag so far to allow a shooter to hit outside shots.

Off team example...would you allow Haarms to guard Miles Bridges?

Haarms is going to be a post player exclusively...he'll just be a different post player than we have seen as fans at Purdue. He isn't going to be the bruiser that Hammons, Haas, and Bigger have been....he'll be much more like Frank Kaminsky in his finesse and using his comparable athletic ability against other post players to take advantage of the mismatch.

 

[tjreese]

I think I have pointed this out before...but no way does Haarms play the 4 at Purdue. Simply can't guard the wing well enough against smaller players effectively enough that it would cause over rotation for help or would force the centers to step in and then constantly give up easy buckets in the lane. Haarms is athletic but I don't see a kid who is above athletically that Hammons was and Hammons couldn't guard most PF's or SF's on the wing. As an example....would you let Haarms guard Vince or would you constantly wonder why CMP is allowing a player to get beat off the dribble or sag so far to allow a shooter to hit outside shots.

Off team example...would you allow Haarms to guard Miles Bridges?

Haarms is going to be a post player exclusively...he'll just be a different post player than we have seen as fans at Purdue. He isn't going to be the bruiser that Hammons, Haas, and Bigger have been....he'll be much more like Frank Kaminsky in his finesse and using his comparable athletic ability against other post players to take advantage of the mismatch.

You could be right on the D, I don't know. On the O he will be much more on the perimeter unless particular matchups inside are an advantage. Not seeing him enough on D...I really have no idea, but he has 6 inches on Biggie and probably more than that in reach. he can sag much more at 7'3" than most players and still contend the shot and so the question is ...is the sag enough to contain the dribble as well as others and still contend the shot with the extra 6 or 7 inches...I just don't know. 4's are not the quickest generally. I'm sure the coaches already know that answer as I'm sure they have already seen a LOT of perimeter D with Haarms. On the O it is much easier to see that he is more of a 4 offensively than Purdue's typical 5s or 5s in general. He will no doubt face the basket more than have his back to teh basket.

 

[PU52Chevy]

Real slow........he played two years of JC ball. One yr red shirt at Pitt. Then played 20 or so games in 16-17. Only leaves one yr of eligibility.

But he is still listed as a RS Junior....so something has to give....or the listing is wrong and he should be listed as a RS Senior.

 

[PU52Chevy]

I think I have pointed this out before...but no way does Haarms play the 4 at Purdue. Simply can't guard the wing well enough against smaller players effectively enough that it would cause over rotation for help or would force the centers to step in and then constantly give up easy buckets in the lane. Haarms is athletic but I don't see a kid who is above athletically that Hammons was and Hammons couldn't guard most PF's or SF's on the wing. As an example....would you let Haarms guard Vince or would you constantly wonder why CMP is allowing a player to get beat off the dribble or sag so far to allow a shooter to hit outside shots.

Off team example...would you allow Haarms to guard Miles Bridges?

Haarms is going to be a post player exclusively...he'll just be a different post player than we have seen as fans at Purdue. He isn't going to be the bruiser that Hammons, Haas, and Bigger have been....he'll be much more like Frank Kaminsky in his finesse and using his comparable athletic ability against other post players to take advantage of the mismatch.

V. Edwards is a 3 to me not a 4...with his skill he can play the 4 but he is a 3 in my mind and creates mismatches when he plays the 4.

Haarms I still think will play a hybrid 4/5....not a typical 4/5 in either role but an effective offensive scorer and rebounding......

I think Ewing or Taylor start at the 4 spot this year in certain line-ups and V. Edwards plays the 3 spot 70% of the time this year.

I think Matt Painter has assembled many guys who can do multiple things to help throw off the other teams and not make us predictable.

All good stuff.....

 

[BoilerBiker]

But he is still listed as a RS Junior....so something has to give....or the listing is wrong and he should be listed as a RS Senior.

I don't think Pitt has rolled their class listings yet to next year

Jeter listed as senior reflecting last season/current academic year, manigualt as freshmen, etc

 

[M51]

But he is still listed as a RS Junior....so something has to give....or the listing is wrong and he should be listed as a RS Senior.

Unsure of the listing, but it is really quite simple. The listing must be referring to his status for 2016-17. He played two yrs of junior college. He red shirted at Pitt for 2015-2016. Then played as a red shirt junior in 2016-2017.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...ings-Pittsburgh-Panthers/stories/201705080129

 

[PU52Chevy]

I don't think Pitt has rolled their class listings yet to next year

Jeter listed as senior reflecting last season/current academic year, manigualt as freshmen, etc

Ahh that could be it.....thx

 

[BoilerDaddy]

V. Edwards is a 3 to me not a 4...with his skill he can play the 4 but he is a 3 in my mind and creates mismatches when he plays the 4.

Haarms I still think will play a hybrid 4/5....not a typical 4/5 in either role but an effective offensive scorer and rebounding......

I think Ewing or Taylor start at the 4 spot this year in certain line-ups and V. Edwards plays the 3 spot 70% of the time this year.

I think Matt Painter has assembled many guys who can do multiple things to help throw off the other teams and not make us predictable.

All good stuff.....

For the most part, I think that Vince Edwards has been more effective at the 4 than the 3 throughout his career, but he is certainly capable of playing both.

I doubt that Haas and Haarms play together much, if at all, this season, but I do expect Haarms to play with Swanigan and determine defensive assignments based on match-ups (assuming Haarms is good enough to be in the rotation). I also think we'll see some VE/Haarms paired together at the 4/5.

 

[PU52Chevy]

For the most part, I think that Vince Edwards has been more effective at the 4 than the 3 throughout his career, but he is certainly capable of playing both.

I doubt that Haas and Haarms play together much, if at all, this season, but I do expect Haarms to play with Swanigan and determine defensive assignments based on match-ups (assuming Haarms is good enough to be in the rotation). I also think we'll see some VE/Haarms paired together at the 4/5.

I just think V. Edwards plays more 3 because of his NBA potential and where he would play.....

All good stuff.....

 

[Dryfly88]

For the most part, I think that Vince Edwards has been more effective at the 4 than the 3 throughout his career, but he is certainly capable of playing both.

I doubt that Haas and Haarms play together much, if at all, this season, but I do expect Haarms to play with Swanigan and determine defensive assignments based on match-ups (assuming Haarms is good enough to be in the rotation). I also think we'll see some VE/Haarms paired together at the 4/5.

I like your positive thinking, but very unlikely we see those 2 guys both in PU uniforms next season.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

I just think V. Edwards plays more 3 because of his NBA potential and where he would play.....

All good stuff.....

I would agree that he lacks the size to match-up at the 4 in the NBA, but right now he would also have a hard time matching up against NBA threes, who are typically much more athletic than Vince.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

I like your positive thinking, but very unlikely we see those 2 guys both in PU uniforms next season.

Good point. I should have said if Biggie were to return, which admittedly is unlikely.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

He played for Pitt this past season (redshirted the previous season): http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3934653/rozelle-nix

I'd pass on him. If someone fills Swanigan's presumed vacancy, it would be nice to have a big that's quicker and more mobile than Haas and Taylor (shot-blocking ability would be a plus as well). I don't think Nix is that guy. He's the definition of a plodder.

At this late stage, I would rather have another big body than to not use the scholarship at all next year, assuming he is a 1 year guy.

 

[Dryfly88]

At this late stage, I would rather have another big body than to not use the scholarship at all next year, assuming he is a 1 year guy.

I agree. Unless CMP has another big he can get for next season, I really don't see the downside to this guy. 1 year as a back-up big and then the scholly is free for 2018.

 

[nagemj02]

At this late stage, I would rather have another big body than to not use the scholarship at all next year, assuming he is a 1 year guy.

I think Purdue can get someone better. Players such as Tilmon haven't decided on their school yet. Or if the coaching staff isn't tunnel vision, dead-set on Biggie's presumed vacancy having to be filled by another big, they can fill it with another guard or forward type.

 

[Dryfly88]

I think Purdue can get someone better. Players such as Tilmon haven't decided on their school yet. Or if the coaching staff isn't tunnel vision, dead-set on Biggie's presumed vacancy having to be filled by another big, they can fill it with another guard or forward type.

We don't need another guard for next year. We need size/rebounding. I wouldn't call it tunnel vision, I would call it filling a need.

 

[nagemj02]

We don't need another guard for next year. We need size/rebounding. I wouldn't call it tunnel vision, I would call it filling a need.

Without projecting how much of an impact they will make rebounding-wise, there's already going to be a good amount of size on the team next season (even without Swanigan):

-Matt Haarms 7'2/7'3
-Isaac Haas 7'2
-Jacquil Taylor 6'10
-Eden Ewing 6'8/6'9
-Vince Edwards 6'7/6'8
-Aaron Wheeler 6'7/6'8

I agree that it would be ideal to get another big but at the same time, if there isn't anyone else available that really enhances the frontcourt next season, I don't see any reason to avoid going after a guard or wing type to fill that vacancy. Carsen Edwards and (presumably) Nojel Eastern are the two guards projected to be on next season's team that can consistently create their own shot. It wouldn't hurt to have another guard or wing like that.

 

[Wolegib]

Ok, maybe haarms is our center of the future. Although his game is not typical of the type of center we have had in the past. I cringed every time I saw Biggie take a 3 point shot. It's not that he was a bad shooter. it's just when I saw him take those shots, I knew nobody would get the rebound when he missed. and typically when he took those shots, there was no Boiler in the paint. if you allow harms to be a perimeter layer , then you must have somebody in the paint to recover the 60% of the shots he misses.

 

[PU52Chevy]

This young man likes to mix it up and works hard on the court and off.....if he is available I hope Painter signs him up for one year......he can play in the University games too and get some exposure overseas where he can further his Pro career.

I say win win.......let's hope CMP looks his way.

Love lunch pail blue collar guys like this.......

 

[Dryfly88]

Without projecting how much of an impact they will make rebounding-wise, there's already going to be a good amount of size on the team next season (even without Swanigan):

-Matt Haarms 7'2/7'3
-Isaac Haas 7'2
-Jacquil Taylor 6'10
-Eden Ewing 6'8/6'9
-Vince Edwards 6'7/6'8
-Aaron Wheeler 6'7/6'8

I agree that it would be ideal to get another big but at the same time, if there isn't anyone else available that really enhances the frontcourt next season, I don't see any reason to avoid going after a guard or wing type to fill that vacancy. Carsen Edwards and (presumably) Nojel Eastern are the two guards projected to be on next season's team that can consistently create their own shot. It wouldn't hurt to have another guard or wing like that.

If we are strictly talking about a 1 year player (which I am), then the biggest concern I have with CS leaving is rebounding. I don't know enough about this guy to say he is the answer, I just would prefer a big who can rebound over a guard for a 1 year rental. I just don't think a guard would get enough playing time to significantly help us for 1 year.

Of the guys you have listed the only one that has proven he can rebound well is VE. Doesn't mean they can't, just haven't shown it at this level yet. I would like a 1 year insurance policy, that's all.