In the local paper today that CMP offered '18 guard and local product Robert Phinisee last night.
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Who, in the top 150, has two-tone not offered? IU Scholarship offers are a dime-a-dozen. This tactic would seem to really devalue any offer from IU since everyone gets one. I really dislike Crean's approach to scattering offers to every player he can reach. I think it speaks poorly for the IU basketball program.
While I agree with your thoughts the fact remains he still gets highly rated recruits on a regular basis.Who, in the top 150, has two-tone not offered? IU Scholarship offers are a dime-a-dozen. This tactic would seem to really devalue any offer from IU since everyone gets one. I really dislike Crean's approach to scattering offers to every player he can reach. I think it speaks poorly for the IU basketball program.
Missed seeing him last year against kokomo. Coaches at kokomo thought he might become a pretty good player down the road and was already good for a freshman last year
He was a starter by the end of his freshman year for a team that lost to Carmel (Ryan Cline) in the Regional.
Has great ball handling skills, good court vision and is averaging almost 22 ppg and 6 assist per game.
He is a hard worker and will only get better. We can't afford to let him get away.
Has great ball handling skills, good court vision and is averaging almost 22 ppg and 6 assist per game.
He is a hard worker and will only get better. We can't afford to let him get away.
Who, in the top 150, has two-tone not offered? IU Scholarship offers are a dime-a-dozen. This tactic would seem to really devalue any offer from IU since everyone gets one. I really dislike Crean's approach to scattering offers to every player he can reach. I think it speaks poorly for the IU basketball program.
While I agree with you, for some reason it does seem to work for him. Matt has stated in the past that he recruits those players he thinks he has a legit chance to land. Maybe he is giving up to soon on some of the top ranked players.
Well no. I don't think this is the year to say he can't get great players. The team is very deep with talent. I think Matt is a good X's and O's guy and a great talent evaluator. I'm a fan. All I said is that maybe he gives up to soon on some of the top rated guys or when the big boys come around. Look at the top 50 for 2016. You have to get all the way to Kyle guy to see someone we offered. I'm not sure if it is the coach or Purdue, but sometimes I want to see him challenge a Coach K or Calipari. If he doesn't succeed that's ok. At some point maybe he will.
It's the coach not the school. California hasn't been a good basketball program since Jason Kidd. So how can Cuonzo Martin recruit five star players there but painter can't do it here. He also had a five star player come to Tennessee. So once again it's not the school it's the coach. So many excuses for this dude I don't get it. 9 years from now when he's in his 20th season tell me this are we going to have the same excuses for him.
Okay let's speak with a bit of logic re Martin/Painter.....West Lafayette or California? I'm 17 and being recruited there's no hesitation because it's California.
Yes I do realize that 1 out of 11 years coaching. We're talking about one player out of all the kids he's recruited 11 years 1 five star player let me repeat this 1 five star player. How many 5 star players has left the state or went to IU in the last 11 years. And listen I don't care about five star 4 star 3 star. It's all about the Final Four we have yet to see one of those. As a Purdue fan that doesn't upset you.
When's the last time you seen California get a 5 star player before Cuonzo Martin got there. That's what I thought. By the way he got a 5 star player to come to Tennessee when he was there too. Last time I checked iu was in Indiana. So how in the world do they get 5 star players to come to their school. I mean they are located in Bloomington Indiana same state as Purdue.
The coach at IU let's 'em drink and drive, smoke dope, and maybe do a line or two. Understand now?
My point was you said where would you rather go as a recruit California or Indiana . And I'm just saying I see 5 star recruits go to Indiana all the time and they're located in the same state as Purdue. So they're choosing Indiana over California so why not produ over California. Is it colder in Lafayette than it is in Bloomington. I guess Lafayette being closer to the Great Lakes it can be a little colder in Lafayette. Nevermind I get it now that 5 degree difference from Lafayette to Bloomington plays a major role in recruits decision.
From a friend of mine who coaches locally here in town: Phinisee will inevitably be offered by Duke, Kentucky, and Kansas. He is going to be THAT good and may end up being an McD's AA.
Well you were obviously never recruited as a d1 athlete. While going to a school that has nice weather year round may factor in some, most are just concerned with going wherever they feel will get them to the nba/ most playing time, etc. Biggie could have went to cali yet chose WL, hmm.....
So then obviously Brown and Rabb would be at Purdue today if Martin was coach, right? Everything else being the same, Painter goes to Mizzou and Purdue hires Martin then the players Martin was able to get to come to Cal would be at Purdue?
Just ignore him twin. This guy is on his 3rd or 4th ID for the site ... he probably won't be around much longer.The coach at IU let's 'em drink and drive, smoke dope, and maybe do a line or two. Understand now?
I didn't say that but what I am saying recruiting classes would be better if Martin was coaching for Purdue. But you guys keep making excuses for him we will never get to a final four. Some of you fans just amazed that s*** out of me. I just don't get it 11 years coaching sweet 16 twice that's it. I like painter but unfortunately its just not working out at Purdue. That's if the goal is to get to the Final Four. Sometimes when I'm on this board I feel like painters family is only people on here.
You have no clue whether Martin would recruit better here or not. None. But yes let's fire a coach every 10 years if they don't make a FF. That is completely sustainable. Nevermind that he has set up a good foundation and has solid to even great recruits coming in and currently on the roster.
Logic is clearly a new concept to you.
But I'm a troll cuz I want Purdue to get to a final four. So will somebody please explain to me what the goal is . Is it just a 20 win season a sweet 16 appearance. I can guarantee you this 9 years from now in his 20th season we all will be talking about the same damn thing. And it won't be how many Final Fours we played in cuz that number will be 0.
Oh yeah 11 seasons is plenty enough time to get to a final four . If you haven't done it within 11 season chances are you're never going to do it. And Martin is already showed that he can recruit better than painter. Painter has 11 season at one school he should already be established as a good recruiter by now and he has not done that yet. Give Cuonzo Martin 11 years at one school watch what happens. Correct me if I'm wrong but who was our assistant coach when the baby boilers was recruited.
I'm going to say this again I don't have anything against painter. It's just time for someone else to get a chance to get this program to a final four . And I think my opinion best chance is with Cuonzo Martin.
I think painter is a good coach just not a final four coach.
To which you have no clue whether that will happen or not. None.
You're a troll because you have zero substance to add to a conversation and have been banned at least once FOR trolling. Now I'll put this new ID of your's on ignore and just wait until you are banned again inevitably.
You're a troll because you can't spell and you use made up words like cuz. The part where you take your opinion and inject it as fact just confirms it.
College basketball: the only sport that finishing 4th is the goal.
NCAA tourney has ruined college basketball. They need to stop adding teams and go back to 32. A conference championship should mean something!
A conference championship does mean something. It's the golden ticket for about half of the teams entering into March. I would take a B10 championship and a second round exit over finishing second and getting to the E8.
Teams don't hang banners for any tourney result less than a F4. They do hang them for conference championships. I'd say that proves they matter.
All that being said, I kind of agree with you that the tourney is too watered down. What was the point of expanding to 68 teams? If people are saying that it's the best 68 teams in the country, they need to understand that this is not the case at all. It's the best 50 or so teams in the country and then a bunch of small schools.
and home and home for conference and then conferences can play in tourney, but it is about the money generated by the hype
I get it. I really do. But the tourney is too easily manipulated. It's an invitational tourney no different than Maui, Alaska, or the NIT to me. To much emphasis was placed on the money of the tourney and less on Basketball.
I am just sayin judging a coach on Tourney results is a mistake. So if Purdue gets a favorable bracket and gets to the Final Four he is suddenly a great coach? Weber an Crean have both made a FF4!
I can read between lines so basically you're saying the Final Four is not the goal at Purdue. Winning conference championships means more. Well somebody go tell Duke that Kentucky that Michigan State that and all the other schools and you can even tell Butler that too. Painter got a fat ass pay raise and you guys are okay with just conference championships. Winning the conference championship don't mean s*** cuz you don't even play everybody twice anymore. And why is it every time somebody gets on here and points problems out about Purdue program they automatically have to be a troll. I'm starting to think you guys are the trolls because you're not wanting to see Purdue do good in the March tournament. Regardless what you think I'm a big time Purdue fan. I'm a Purdue fan that wants to see more.
