Rikki Harris on visit to Purdue

[DubJellison]

Like we reported last week, Ohio State transfer guard Rikki Harris is currently on an official visit to Purdue, per a source.

I expect this to be a successful visit for the Boilermakers.

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Purdue is set to host Ohio State transfer guard Rikki Harris for an official visit next week.

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[BoilerPride08]

Like we reported last week, Ohio State transfer guard Rikki Harris is currently on an official visit to Purdue, per a source.

I expect this to be a successful visit for the Boilermakers.

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Purdue is set to host Ohio State transfer guard Rikki Harris for an official visit next week.

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I’m just confused here… is the goal to have like 8 wings who can’t score on the roster?

We couldn’t shoot, barely score and had ZERO post depth, but sure add 3 offensively challenged wings from the portal. 🙄… makes no sense

 

[purduedavie]

I’m just confused here… is the goal to have like 8 wings who can’t score on the roster?

We couldn’t shoot, barely score and had ZERO post depth, but sure add 3 offensively challenged wings from the portal. 🙄… makes no sense

Exactly, one of Harris/Lombard is fine, both make no sense. Purdue needs a big, hopefully, they get one.

 

[BoilerPride08]

Exactly, one of Harris/Lombard is fine, both make no sense. Purdue needs a big, hopefully, they get one.

No way did ever think we’d take 4 transfers. 2-3 at most.

KG recruits HS kids like she wants to be a developmental program. Like Painter.

Then goes out and nabs transfers that really won’t do much to shore up our weaknesses from this past year further pushing a kid like Amiya and Poole and Spider down the depth chart?!

This team needed experienced posts! Like how could they not see this? Post players take so much longer to develop. But apparently they are so high on 2 relatively no name incoming freshmen and two juniors who have shown VERY little to carry the load…

Recipe for disaster

 

[jbvazq234]

I think looking for experience leadership and on ball defense more than offensive punch. We list quite a few close games last year for not being able to get a stop or two down the stretch

 

[MichaelRR]

I’m just confused here… is the goal to have like 8 wings who can’t score on the roster?

We couldn’t shoot, barely score and had ZERO post depth, but sure add 3 offensively challenged wings from the portal. 🙄… makes no sense

Coaches may believe in Puryear and/or McCarthy more than you do. We will have 5 posts on the roster next year, with McKenna able to play the 4 in a pinch as well. I would be happier with a point guard with one year of eligibilty than a post.

 

[GemstateBoiler]

I said before, this may be the best we can get with our resume. But, I do agree with the questions of why are we doing this to this extent now? One guard and a post seemed to make some sense, but we seem to be hoping that 3-4 one-year, other team's back-ups, can be blended together and a wonderful new recipe will be found. Are we falling into some sort of nightmare labyrinth trap here?

And Michael and Pride are somewhat on the same page here with overdoing the portal with other team's subs, and lessening our youth's development. That's scary.

 

[tomgloe]

Boom, two guards that rock the MoFro haircut. Fear the Fro!

 

[MichaelRR]

I said before, this may be the best we can get with our resume. But, I do agree with the questions of why are we doing this to this extent now? One guard and a post seemed to make some sense, but we seem to be hoping that 3-4 one-year, other team's back-ups, can be blended together and a wonderful new recipe will be found. Are we falling into some sort of nightmare labyrinth trap here?

And Michael and Pride are somewhat on the same page here with overdoing the portal with other team's subs, and lessening our youth's development. That's scary.

Its the portal crack pipe, and CKG appears to be addicted to it without the ability to get much out of it...... Even with Harris added, I think we have actually hurt the prospects for next year and beyond rather then help them, because none of these three should be playing ahead of the recruited underclassmen in my opinion.

 

[MichaelRR]

I think looking for experience leadership and on ball defense more than offensive punch. We list quite a few close games last year for not being able to get a stop or two down the stretch

We mostly lost games because in the last five minutes, we couldn't score once the other team got into winning time mode. Defensive specialists only exacerbate that problem IMHO.

 

[jbvazq234]

We mostly lost games because in the last five minutes, we couldn't score once the other team got into winning time mode. Defensive specialists only exacerbate that problem IMHO.

Micheal, I disagree. Purdue averaged 68.3 points on offense, and allowed 68.3 on defense. Looks like a player that could consistently give you a stop when you had to have one would have come handy at end of games in which they were in. Florida, Georgia, at Minnesota, Ohio state and even Indiana at home come to mind.
Juan

 

[BoilerPride08]

Micheal, I disagree. Purdue averaged 68.3 points on offense, and allowed 68.3 on defense. Looks like a player that could consistently give you a stop when you had to have one would have come handy at end of games in which they were in. Florida, Georgia, at Minnesota, Ohio state and even Indiana at home come to mind.
Juan

Yeah 1 more. Not 3

 

[jbvazq234]

Yeah 1 more. Not 3

There’s room on the bench for 15 players. You get 1 and she somehow turns out to not be a good fit, you still have the problem. You get three very athletic guards and one may be able to provide what you need, or 2 of the 3. If 1 or 2 don’t get minutes they will still get a good education besides challenging your scorers in practice. I don’t think CKG is giving scholarships just to be giving them. Surely she thinks these women bring something she can use. After all she’s a Purdue grad…
Juan

 

[MichaelRR]

Micheal, I disagree. Purdue averaged 68.3 points on offense, and allowed 68.3 on defense. Looks like a player that could consistently give you a stop when you had to have one would have come handy at end of games in which they were in. Florida, Georgia, at Minnesota, Ohio state and even Indiana at home come to mind.
Juan

Last five minutes of games, we frequently had 3-4 minute scoring droughts. Its not just about how many you score, sometimes its about when you score them.

So end of the game, tied up and you are going to take out one of your best scorers to put in a defensive specialist and make your own chances of scoring even worse? Sounds like a great way to lose even more close games. Take out Swanson or Jones for a defensive specialist..... SMDH

 

[MichaelRR]

There’s room on the bench for 15 players. You get 1 and she somehow turns out to not be a good fit, you still have the problem. You get three very athletic guards and one may be able to provide what you need, or 2 of the 3. If 1 or 2 don’t get minutes they will still get a good education besides challenging your scorers in practice. I don’t think CKG is giving scholarships just to be giving them. Surely she thinks these women bring something she can use. After all she’s a Purdue grad…
Juan

Or they become cancers that eat away at team chemistry because they came here to be difference makers and play big minutes, not sit at the end of the bench as cheerleaders....... Not seeing it being worth the risk. Also are you the same Juan from Oldgoldfreepress? If so, welcome, I've missed hearing from you.

 

[BoilerPride08]

The coaching staff has been hyping up Amiyah all day on socials… while actively trying to add a 3rd player just like her from the portal.

Make it make sense

 

[BoilerPride08]

It’s pretty much a well known fact that rookie guards adjust to the college game much better and faster than rookie post players.

That’s why if you have to go young, I’d rather it be on the perimeter than the post. We have two top 50 guards on the roster next year. One true frosh the other a RS frosh.

In the post we have 1 proven soph, 2 unranked rookies, and 2 juniors who have shown extremely little that they can be effective big ten post players.

If we were to add any experience from the portal. Common sense says it’s in the post with a 1 year grad transfer. Obviously bass fits the mold but adding her now with these other 3 puts at at 15 and 10-11 players max get meaningful minutes. 4 grad transfers adds a wealth of experience for sure. But it also hinders some of these guards - Poole, Amiyah, Layden etc.) wastes another year for them.

If KG wants to play the portal every year fine. Do that. But don’t recruit over a bunch of high school kids as well. You have to pick a lane and go with it.

 

[MichaelRR]

It’s pretty much a well known fact that rookie guards adjust to the college game much better and faster than rookie post players.

That’s why if you have to go young, I’d rather it be on the perimeter than the post. We have two top 50 guards on the roster next year. One true frosh the other a RS frosh.

In the post we have 1 proven soph, 2 unranked rookies, and 2 juniors who have shown extremely little that they can be effective big ten post players.

If we were to add any experience from the portal. Common sense says it’s in the post with a 1 year grad transfer. Obviously bass fits the mold but adding her now with these other 3 puts at at 15 and 10-11 players max get meaningful minutes. 4 grad transfers adds a wealth of experience for sure. But it also hinders some of these guards - Poole, Amiyah, Layden etc.) wastes another year for them.

If KG wants to play the portal every year fine. Do that. But don’t recruit over a bunch of high school kids as well. You have to pick a lane and go with it.

I agree that 2 guard and SF are easier to adjust to than post, but I think PG is more difficult transition than post. And again, I only expect defense, rebounding, and a few putbacks from whichever of the frosh posts plays a bunch. I also think 8-10 are the most that get meaningful minutes, and most teams only go 8 deep in double digit minutes.

 

[jbvazq234]

Last five minutes of games, we frequently had 3-4 minute scoring droughts. Its not just about how many you score, sometimes its about when you score them.

So end of the game, tied up and you are going to take out one of your best scorers to put in a defensive specialist and make your own chances of scoring even worse? Sounds like a great way to lose even more close games. Take out Swanson or Jones for a defensive specialist..... SMDH

You can sub offense / defense at the end. Play your scorer on offense and sub your stopper on defense. CMP does that often in close games at the end, quite successfully I might add

Or they become cancers that eat away at team chemistry because they came here to be difference makers and play big minutes, not sit at the end of the bench as cheerleaders....... Not seeing it being worth the risk. Also are you the same Juan from Oldgoldfreepress? If so, welcome, I've missed hearing from you.

I’m the same Juan, thank you, just a lot older. What happened to that site? That used to be a pretty good site. And being free didn’t hurt.
Juan

 

[BoilerPride08]

I agree that 2 guard and SF are easier to adjust to than post, but I think PG is more difficult transition than post. And again, I only expect defense, rebounding, and a few putbacks from whichever of the frosh posts plays a bunch. I also think 8-10 are the most that get meaningful minutes, and most teams only go 8 deep in double digit minutes.

Poole is an absolute game changer for us. Amiyah has been touted by KG hours ago on her IG page as the “PG1”. She won’t be a true frosh she has had a year to learn the system and the pace of the game. Those two would’ve been just fine at the point.

A post game of 2 true rookies, Mila who isn’t a true post, Harper who has shown to be able to grab a rebound and defend.

So let’s limit the PT and development of two, top 50 ranked guards while throwing Puryear and McCarthy to the wolves.

Sounds really smart

 

[MichaelRR]

You can sub offense / defense at the end. Play your scorer on offense and sub your stopper on defense. CMP does that often in close games at the end, quite successfully I might add.

You can sub offense for defense in about the last minute, not so much before that.

I’m the same Juan, thank you, just a lot older. What happened to that site? That used to be a pretty good site. And being free didn’t hurt.
Juan

Too many people intolerant of any differing opinions or any critical opinions of Versyp and it devolved into insults. Then all the knowledgeable posters left and now there are only about 3 of us left posting on there anymore. That pretty much killed the OldGold site.

 

[MichaelRR]

Poole is an absolute game changer for us. Amiyah has been touted by KG hours ago on her IG page as the “PG1”. She won’t be a true frosh she has had a year to learn the system and the pace of the game. Those two would’ve been just fine at the point.

A post game of 2 true rookies, Mila who isn’t a true post, Harper who has shown to be able to grab a rebound and defend.

So let’s limit the PT and development of two, top 50 ranked guards while throwing Puryear and McCarthy to the wolves.

Sounds really smart

Or hold Puryear and McCarthy back and not develop them next year fully so they end up not much more experienced than Gordon and Kira season after next and will end up buried on the depth chart and never have a real chance to contribute meaningful minutes. Even with Bass if we get her I don't see this team making the NCAA's next season, so take our lumps, play the underclassmen, find out who can play, and build for the 2 years after next season.

 

[BoilerPride08]

Or hold Puryear and McCarthy back and not develop them next year fully so they end up not much more experienced than Gordon and Kira season after next and will end up buried on the depth chart and never have a real chance to contribute meaningful minutes. Even with Bass if we get her I don't see this team making the NCAA's next season, so take our lumps, play the underclassmen, find out who can play, and build for the 2 years after next season.

Even if we could get Bass - Puryear/McCarthy would still get reps if either one (or both) can come in and overtake Harper/Mila. Or move Mila out more on the perimeter considering that’s the only way she has shown us to be somewhat effective and keep Harper as backup. I’m sorry if Puryear/McCarthy can’t overtake Harper for playing time then they need to have their freshmen year be a developmental year. And make the step up their sophomore campaign.

So many talented post players - even McD AA’s 5/4 star posts take a year or even 2 to develop. Or they don’t develop at all, it’s very rare outside a top 10 perhaps prospect. To have a true freshmen post come in and be a big factor. We somewhat found that in MA and even then she disappeared in several games with foul trouble or just not being productive but obviously had some big games. We needed a lot from her which is why she played as much as she did. But I’m not holding anything against either Puryear/McCarthy if they don’t come out as gang busters playing against very experienced posts players (many are grad students). There is not shame at all for them to take it slow and ease into college competition rather than being thrown to the wolves like Ma was this past year. That is not harming their development. They will be developed and we will win at the same time.

And also there’s a thing called injuries. It took a solid 3 seconds for Harper sr to be out for the year.

Then what’re we gonna do?

 

[tomgloe]

Poole is an absolute game changer for us. Amiyah has been touted by KG hours ago on her IG page as the “PG1”. She won’t be a true frosh she has had a year to learn the system and the pace of the game. Those two would’ve been just fine at the point.

A post game of 2 true rookies, Mila who isn’t a true post, Harper who has shown to be able to grab a rebound and defend.

So let’s limit the PT and development of two, top 50 ranked guards while throwing Puryear and McCarthy to the wolves.

Sounds really smart

I agree with you on feeling comfortable enough with Amiyah and Poole running the point. It's all hypothetical right now, who knows if Harris even commits or not. Harris can definitely help us now, but I think I'd rather see Amiyah and Poole get the mins/experience. Maybe Harris plays more of a 2 guard if she commits.

I don't think CKG is throwing the post frosh to the wolves.. I believe we are still waiting on Bass to finish her visits. If we don't land her, I'd expect CKG to go after another experienced 1 year post transfer.

 

[MichaelRR]

Even if we could get Bass - Puryear/McCarthy would still get reps if either one (or both) can come in and overtake Harper/Mila. Or move Mila out more on the perimeter considering that’s the only way she has shown us to be somewhat effective and keep Harper as backup. I’m sorry if Puryear/McCarthy can’t overtake Harper for playing time then they need to have their freshmen year be a developmental year. And make the step up their sophomore campaign.

So many talented post players - even McD AA’s 5/4 star posts take a year or even 2 to develop. Or they don’t develop at all, it’s very rare outside a top 10 perhaps prospect. To have a true freshmen post come in and be a big factor. We somewhat found that in MA and even then she disappeared in several games with foul trouble or just not being productive but obviously had some big games. We needed a lot from her which is why she played as much as she did. But I’m not holding anything against either Puryear/McCarthy if they don’t come out as gang busters playing against very experienced posts players (many are grad students). There is not shame at all for them to take it slow and ease into college competition rather than being thrown to the wolves like Ma was this past year. That is not harming their development. They will be developed and we will win at the same time.

And also there’s a thing called injuries. It took a solid 3 seconds for Harper sr to be out for the year.

Then what’re we gonna do?

LOL, Caitlyn was injured in the LAST regular season game of the year.... not the first. I am not expecting Puryear or McCarthy to match MA's frosh year. As I have repeatedly stated, defense, rebounding and a few putback baskets would be all I am expecting. I also think McKenna should get reps at the 4 and 3 as a stretch forward to continue her development. With MA and Bass or some other senior post playing 25-30 minutes a night, it doesn't leave much for the 3 underclassmen to get reps. If this were an NCAA type team, maybe its worth losing Puryear and/or McCarthy to next years portal to get Bass and try to make a little more noise, but I don't see this team winning 15 games pre-tournaments next year as currently constructed even with Bass unless we have a REALLY soft schedule. I sincerely hope I am wrong, but if we are going to take our lumps, throw the underclassmen in the deep end and see who swims.

We agree on 90% of the portal topic, don't get over heated and lose your composure over the little bit we disagree. There is no absolute right or wrong here, just differing opinions and neither of ours matter one iota, only the coaches opinions matter.

 

[BoilerPride08]

This was supposed to be a foregone conclusion… something change?

 

[DubJellison]

Harris has committed to Dayton.

 

[BoilerPride08]

Harris has committed to Dayton.

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I mean looking at our depth chart - this loss is fine. Still have no idea what our staff is trying to accomplish here.

Are we looking at any post players (other than bass)?

 

[DubJellison]

Harris was very close to coming to Purdue, but changed course over the last week and decided to go to elsewhere ultimately.