Remind me again what people are upset about with Trump?

[Katscratch]

Of course it was. Q has blamed Biden for the war from the beginning. It has been argued over and over that all Biden had to do was to Declare that Ukraine could not join NATO and then Putin wouldn't have invaded. It was argued that Biden should've built up the military in Ukraine When Putin was threatening in order to stop him. It was also argued that Biden was weak because of the Afghanistan Pull out, and therefore Putin felt emboldened. I mean, come on

But somehow, an anonymous message board poster that actually reads what these guys says and calls them out for it is a “liar” but the current president of the United States that flat out lies about stuff that really matters on an extremely regular basis is not a problem for them.

Talk about Trump derangement syndrome!

 

[Katscratch]

Your comments do not correspond to katBMW''s dishonest statement. Nobody that I know of said that Biden was weak "because he did nothing to stop the war" in your beloved fledgling democracy of Ukraine. Many of us, rather, said he was incompetent and/or corrupt (as a toady of the defense industry) - which I have seen nothing to indicate otherwise.

KatBMW: "some of the true TDS Trump cult believers actually posted (repeatedly) that Biden was a giant wuss-bag because he did nothing to stop the war in Ukraine other than empty threats of telling Putin to cut it out. "

Does it make you sad that I flat out identified the truth about your nonsense?

 

[Riveting-]

But somehow, an anonymous message board poster that actually reads what these guys says and calls them out for it is a “liar” but the current president of the United States that flat out lies about stuff that really matters on an extremely regular basis is not a problem for them.

Talk about Trump derangement syndrome!

All you have to do is back up your statement with a few posts, which you cannot do.

If you do, I will admit you are correct in this case - but otherwise, you are busted again for lying.

 

[Riveting-]

Does it make you sad that I flat out identified the truth about your nonsense?

What do you imagine you flat out identified?

I am fine if you call people out as long as you can back it up, but if you can't, you are lying - again.

 

[Katscratch]

What do you imagine you flat out identified?

I am fine if you call people out as long as you can back it up, but if you can't, you are lying - again.

Lol – you’re not fine with people that disagree with you calling people out as long as they can back it up.

When are you guys gonna start calling out Trump for his lies instead?

You are part of the guys that support the president that demonized immigrants as eating cats, and don’t have an apparent problem with that lie.

The group that doesn’t have a problem with the lie that the 2020 election was stolen. The lie that Obama was not born in the United States. The lie that Ted Cruz‘s father was part of the JFK assassination and on and on and on and on and on and on.

Do those actual lies bother you? If they do, let’s talk about those.

 

[Riveting-]

Brought to you by the guys that support the president that demonized immigrants as eating cats, and don’t have an apparent problem with that lie.

I had a problem with that lie, as I do with other Trump lies and with the major lies of Biden about the border and so forth. But so what?

Trump's policies are superior in every way to Biden/Harris, which is the bottom line and why I voted for him. Why did you vote Biden in 2020 despite all of his lies?

 

[Katscratch]

I had a problem with that lie, as I do with other Trump lies and with the major lies of Biden about the border and so forth. But so what?

Trump's policies are superior in every way to Biden/Harris, which is the bottom line and why I voted for him. Why did you vote Biden in 2020 despite all of his lies?

I appreciate that – it’s a straightforward answer. I am extraordinarily pissed off and angry about the lies about Biden’s competency. Those are the worst ones about his administration and helped to elect an effing idiot as a direct result.

I voted for Biden, while holding my noseBecause he was less dangerous, did not want to subvert democracy, and because there wasn’t a viable other choice like Nikki Haley.

 

[Riveting-]

Because he was less dangerous, did not want to subvert democracy, and because there wasn’t a viable other choice like Nikki Haley.

All you have to do to win this argument is back up your statement about "repeated posts" with a few such posts since you made the claim.

Wouldn't you like to know what it feels like to win an argument on this forum? This is your chance.

 

[Boilermaker03]

Fair, so what metric should we use to judge success here? And when?

I am looking for a measure of success that we can all agree to instead of just pointing fingers. Quixote and Riveting agreed to the stock market and inflation, but wondering if you think it's something else.

Measure of success for the economy? Inflation? GDP? What are you wanting a measure of?

 

[Boilermaker03]

But somehow, an anonymous message board poster that actually reads what these guys says and calls them out for it is a “liar” but the current president of the United States that flat out lies about stuff that really matters on an extremely regular basis is not a problem for them.

Talk about Trump derangement syndrome!

You write this as if Biden didn't do the exact same thing... Biden lied out his ass.. ALL THE TIME.

 

[BB62]

You write this as if Biden didn't do the exact same thing... Biden lied out his ass.. ALL THE TIME.

Convince yourself of anything. Unbelievable.

Trump lies about his freakin weight. Winning golf tournaments. The price of eggs have come down 93,94 % since he took offices. A couple states have gas at $1.98. China made one trillion dollars off trade with US in 2024. The US is taking in 2 billion a day in tariffs. Grocery prices are down.

Give it a rest. You're no different than he is.

 

[Boilermaker03]

Convince yourself of anything. Unbelievable.

Trump lies about his freakin weight. Winning golf tournaments. The price of eggs have come down 93,94 % since he took offices. A couple states have gas at $1.98. China made one trillion dollars off trade with US in 2024. The US is taking in 2 billion a day in tariffs. Grocery prices are down.

Give it a rest. You're no different than he is.

Okay hoss.

 

[Katscratch]

See? These aren’t lies! they are Trump jokes!!

Hahahahaha??

“You said you would end the war in Ukraine on Day One,” the journalists asked after Trump reflected on his role on the world stage his the beginning of his second term.

“Well, I said that figuratively, and I said that as an exaggeration, because to make a point,” Trump replied, adding: “And you know, it gets, of course, by the fake news [unintelligible]. Obviously, people know that when I said that, it was said in jest, but it was also said that it will be ended.”

Hilarious!!

 

[Katscratch]

More ‘comedy’ from that jolly jokester Trump, who must have been kidding when he said he’d tackle inflationary effects on every day people:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/25/amazon-sellers-hike-prices-of-goods-after-trumps-china-tariffs.html

That crazy funny Trump and his across the board price increases! Hahaha what a funny dude.

 

[Riveting-]

See? These aren’t lies! they are Trump jokes!!

Are you obsessed because you feel ashamed for being busted several times on this forum for lying - the latest being just this week?

 

[Katscratch]

Are you obsessed because you feel ashamed for being busted several times on this forum for lying - the latest being just this week?

@Riveting says I "lied" and was "busted?"

HAHAHAHAHAAA.

No.

 

[BoilerJS]

I appreciate that – it’s a straightforward answer. I am extraordinarily pissed off and angry about the lies about Biden’s competency. Those are the worst ones about his administration and helped to elect an effing idiot as a direct result.

I voted for Biden, while holding my noseBecause he was less dangerous, did not want to subvert democracy, and because there wasn’t a viable other choice like Nikki Haley.

IMO the two biggest media lies in the past decade.
Biden's competency and Trump's Russia Collusion.
Who was lying to you? Yet you still believe what they are telling you.
It's time you got your information from a more reliable source. Don't you think?

 

[Katscratch]

IMO the two biggest media lies in the past decade.
Biden's competency and Trump's Russia Collusion.
Who was lying to you? Yet you still believe what they are telling you.
It's time you got your information from a more reliable source. Don't you think?

.
Go check my posting history.

• For years I was stating very clearly that Biden was way too old to run again.
• For years I clearly stated that Russia took concrete, pervasive steps to tilt the election toward Trump, NOT that the campaign colluded.

The "biggest media lies?" listen young man, the biggest media source in the US by far is Fox News. Are you really accusing Fox News of pushing the so called "media lies" that you listed?
.

 

[BoilerJS]

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Go check my posting history.

• For years I was stating very clearly that Biden was way too old to run again.
• For years I clearly stated that Russia took concrete, pervasive steps to tilt the election toward Trump, NOT that the campaign colluded.

The "biggest media lies?" listen young man, the biggest media source in the US by far is Fox News. Are you really accusing Fox News of pushing the so called "media lies" that you listed?
.

You obviously don't watch Fox News.
They had been reporting for 2 years on Bidens cognitive decline.

They also reported on the Trump Collusion hoax as early as the first year into the First Trump Presidency.

And 3rd on my list would be the BS Covid came from bats story.
Again Fox had this story debunked and called out Fouchi in year one of the Covid out break. And yes they gave Obama credit for trying to stop the gain of function research. They even had the money route exposed on how Fouchi got around the Obama restrictions.

 

[Katscratch]

You obviously don't watch Fox News.
They had been reporting for 2 years on Bidens cognitive decline.

They also reported on the Trump Collusion hoax as early as the first year into the First Trump Presidency.

And 3rd on my list would be the BS Covid came from bats story.
Again Fox had this story debunked and called out Fouchi in year one of the Covid out break. And yes they gave Obama credit for trying to stop the gain of function research. They even had the money route exposed on how Fouchi got around the Obama restrictions.

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You completely missed the point I was making.

The single, by far biggest media source in the US, Fox News, is all the way up Trump's lying ass. Yet you are convinced that "the media" is out to get Trump. But I don't let any particular media bias make up my mind for me.

So I came to the conclusion that Biden was way too old by taking a variety of media sources into account, and watching how Biden interacted.

The same way I take Trump's own words and interactions into account in coming to the clear conclusion that he is a narcissistic, half-senile idiot who regularly makes bad decisions, continues to degrade our democracy, and should be in jail for attempting to overthrow a Presidential election.

 

[mediaexpert]

IMO, Trump is the used car salesman whom I avoid at Church, but I go to when I want to buy a car. He will tell me it has only been driven by a little old lady going to Church on Sunday. I get the car checked out and see that it's a good value, and his lie is puff. I get the point; it has low mileage and has been well-maintained.

Biden has lied since college. However, people like him. I noticed him because of his horrific statements about blacks, and was surprised Obama picked him to be his VP. However, both men are very charming.

However, the biggest liar in Congress, and it isn't even close, is Adam Schiff. His saying on National TV that, as head of the Intelligence Committee, he has concrete evidence that Trump colluded with Russia deserves prison time. Especially, after Grinder declassified the seven (?) affidavits, and found these were mainly Obama Cabinet members, who investigated Trump, and found NO evidence.

Schiff's second big lie was reading into the Congressional Record Trump's phone call, where it sounded exactly like quid pro quo. I still can't believe Schiff remained in Congress after Trump declassified the phone call, and it was a big nothing. Still, Congress wasted valuable time and money trying to build a case against Trump.

And who can forget that poor lady's tearful testimony of Kavanaugh molesting her sometime over summer vacation somewhere in her hometown. I was in tears hearing her testimony and would have bet the farm that we would never hear of Kavanaugh again. It was a good thing that Kavanaugh was such a nerd that he kept a diary, showing that he spent that summer vacation six (?) hours away. Later, it was documented that Schiff and that Congresswoman spent weeks prepping and rehearsing that lady.

And again, like with the impeachment of Trump, which resulted from Schiff's lie, this led to that lady's successful lawsuit against Trump. The one where she said Trump raped her in Bergdorff Goodman. I have been to Bergdorf's, and there is always a saleslady a few feet away, and that was for me, a nobody. Trump would have had three rush him every time he cleared his throat.

 

[mediaexpert]

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You completely missed the point I was making.

The single, by far biggest media source in the US, Fox News, is all the way up Trump's lying ass. Yet you are convinced that "the media" is out to get Trump. But I don't let any particular media bias make up my mind for me.

So I came to the conclusion that Biden was way too old by taking a variety of media sources into account, and watching how Biden interacted.

The same way I take Trump's own words and interactions into account in coming to the clear conclusion that he is a narcissistic, half-senile idiot who regularly makes bad decisions, continues to degrade our democracy, and should be in jail for attempting to overthrow a Presidential election.

ABC. NBC and CBS are each much larger than Fox. They are networks, and Fox News is a cable channel - a vast difference.

States changed voting procedures illegally, throwing mail-in ballots into question. The states were also to keep envelopes with the ballots to certify. They did not. States did recount the votes, which is fine, but they were NOT certified.

The courts correctly threw out the cases because the courts are to rule, not investigate. The DOJ should have investigated, but did not. Later, it was proven that the DOJ knew Hunter's laptop was real, but they continued to say that it was Russian disinformation. The media mentioned above kept saying the President FALSELY said ..., that people are convinced Trump did not win the election. However, I am still convinced he did. There have been two occasions when an election was in dispute, and Congress intervened. This is what Trump wanted, and that is why 300k peacefully marched on Washington to get Pence to make that decision.

 

[Ihaveswag29]

The media mentioned above kept saying the President FALSELY said ..., that people are convinced Trump did not win the election. However, I am still convinced he did. There have been two occasions when an election was in dispute, and Congress intervened. This is what Trump wanted, and that is why 300k peacefully marched on Washington to get Pence to make that decision.

Just an fyi that you lose all credibility in a non-echo chamber when you say things like this. Take it as you will.

 

[Katscratch]

ABC. NBC and CBS are each much larger than Fox. They are networks, and Fox News is a cable channel - a vast difference.

States changed voting procedures illegally, throwing mail-in ballots into question. The states were also to keep envelopes with the ballots to certify. They did not. States did recount the votes, which is fine, but they were NOT certified.

The courts correctly threw out the cases because the courts are to rule, not investigate. The DOJ should have investigated, but did not. Later, it was proven that the DOJ knew Hunter's laptop was real, but they continued to say that it was Russian disinformation. The media mentioned above kept saying the President FALSELY said ..., that people are convinced Trump did not win the election. However, I am still convinced he did. There have been two occasions when an election was in dispute, and Congress intervened. This is what Trump wanted, and that is why 300k peacefully marched on Washington to get Pence to make that decision.

From Fox News:

"FNC (3.6 million viewers) beat the broadcast competition on NBC and ABC (3.1 million viewers) for the first quarter of 2025. Additionally, the network secured its highest quarter cable news share ever, dominating with 65% of the audience in total day and 66% in primetime. Apr 1, 2025"

And that's NOT counting the FoxNews.com website hits, which absolutely dwarf those of the networks. You do realize that more people get their news from the web than broadcasts, right?

And as for those 300k peaceful marchers? Separate from those 300k peaceful matchers were a few thousand insurrectionists, led by the Proud Boys, neo-Nazis, and Oath Keepers who overran the Captiol after being implored to go there by a series of speakers and ultimately by "We're gonna lose our country if we don't fight" Donald Trump. Once they got their they raised gallows for the Vice President and Speaker of the House, overwhelmed law enforcement, and ran through the halls looking for senior elected officials. All while Trump did nothing to stop them.

 

[bonefish1]

From Fox News:

"FNC (3.6 million viewers) beat the broadcast competition on NBC and ABC (3.1 million viewers) for the first quarter of 2025. Additionally, the network secured its highest quarter cable news share ever, dominating with 65% of the audience in total day and 66% in primetime. Apr 1, 2025"

And that's NOT counting the FoxNews.com website hits, which absolutely dwarf those of the networks. You do realize that more people get their news from the web than broadcasts, right?

And as for those 300k peaceful marchers? Separate from those 300k peaceful matchers were a few thousand insurrectionists, led by the Proud Boys, neo-Nazis, and Oath Keepers who overran the Captiol after being implored to go there by a series of speakers and ultimately by "We're gonna lose our country if we don't fight" Donald Trump. Once they got their they raised gallows for the Vice President and Speaker of the House, overwhelmed law enforcement, and ran through the halls looking for senior elected officials. All while Trump did nothing to stop them.

what about when the capitol police were escorting people into the building and giving tours?

And....what exactly was Trump supposed to do to stop them. It was Pelosi who refused the national guards help

 

[Katscratch]

what about when the capitol police were escorting people into the building and giving tours?

And....what exactly was Trump supposed to do to stop them. It was Pelosi who refused the national guards help

That's some tinfoil hat shit there.

X 2!

If you actually believe that I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Katscratch]

 

[Quix0te]

That's some tinfoil hat shit there.

X 2!

If you actually believe that I don't know what to tell you.

It's all on video. You are in a state of denial that is the most rabid form of TDS.

 

[Katscratch]

Go ahead, @bonefish1

Watch the entire video I just posted. I DARE YOU.

 

[Katscratch]

It's all on video. You are in a state of denial that is the most rabid form of TDS.

WATCH THE VIDEO. THE WHOLE THING. I DARE YOU.

 

[bonefish1]

That's some tinfoil hat shit there.

X 2!

If you actually believe that I don't know what to tell you.

NEW: Obtained HBO Footage Shows Pelosi Again Taking Responsibility for Capitol Security on January 6

U.S. House of Representatives Committee on House Administration

cha.house.gov

Nancy Pelosi Contradicts Her Own Narrative of January 6, HBO Footage Shows

U.S. House of Representatives Committee on House Administration

cha.house.gov

 

[Katscratch]

It's all on video. You are in a state of denial that is the most rabid form of TDS.

You have such ridiculous cult-like case of Trump Derangement Sydrome (defined as unwilling to believe actual first-hand evidence if Trump says different) that I don't think you will have the brain wattage to click the link and watch the two minutes of video just posted.

 

[Katscratch]

NEW: Obtained HBO Footage Shows Pelosi Again Taking Responsibility for Capitol Security on January 6

U.S. House of Representatives Committee on House Administration

cha.house.gov

Nancy Pelosi Contradicts Her Own Narrative of January 6, HBO Footage Shows

U.S. House of Representatives Committee on House Administration

cha.house.gov

You show this as if it's anything other than a political operative's website.

I've seen a shook Pelosi saying "how could we have let this happen?" In other words, let Donald Trump's cult followers attempt to overthrow the USG. Hundreds of millions of Americans felt the same way.

Watch the video:

 

[Katscratch]

And Trump pardoned every single one of them. Including the 200+ that assaulted law enforcement.

 

[Katscratch]

By the way, if your ridiculousness extends to finding a video where for moments when it was not violent? Good lord; that some second grade Tucker Carlson logic.

"But judge, look at all the times I hung out with her and didn't murder her! That oughta be sufficient to counter the time I did, riiiight?"

 

[BNIBoiler]

You have such ridiculous cult-like case of Trump Derangement Sydrome (defined as unwilling to believe actual first-hand evidence if Trump says different) that I don't think you will have the brain wattage to click the link and watch the two minutes of video just posted.

These Flavor Aiders will sell their crib and move to a South American jungle if Chump told them to.

 

[mediaexpert]

Just an fyi that you lose all credibility in a non-echo chamber when you say things like this. Take it as you will.

Good catch. I should have added that people realize that most Cable shows are opinion news, whereas they expect objective news from TV networks. A TV News Host or reporter should NEVER use the phrase, the President falsely complained.... They can later give facts like, however, the courts ruled..., but then they should include, but the Trump team replied that the DOJ...

This is a way to report news, the way it is being done today is IMO, propaganda or yellow journalism.

 

[BB62]

what about when the capitol police were escorting people into the building and giving tours?

And....what exactly was Trump supposed to do to stop them. It was Pelosi who refused the national guards help

Capitol police giving tours. Drink!!

 

[BB62]

what about when the capitol police were escorting people into the building and giving tours?

And....what exactly was Trump supposed to do to stop them.

Stop watching the carnage on TV and pickup the freakin phone to law enforcement. As the commander in chief I'm sure somebody would have taken his call.

 

[mediaexpert]

From Fox News:

"FNC (3.6 million viewers) beat the broadcast competition on NBC and ABC (3.1 million viewers) for the first quarter of 2025. Additionally, the network secured its highest quarter cable news share ever, dominating with 65% of the audience in total day and 66% in primetime. Apr 1, 2025"

And that's NOT counting the FoxNews.com website hits, which absolutely dwarf those of the networks. You do realize that more people get their news from the web than broadcasts, right?

And as for those 300k peaceful marchers? Separate from those 300k peaceful matchers were a few thousand insurrectionists, led by the Proud Boys, neo-Nazis, and Oath Keepers who overran the Captiol after being implored to go there by a series of speakers and ultimately by "We're gonna lose our country if we don't fight" Donald Trump. Once they got their they raised gallows for the Vice President and Speaker of the House, overwhelmed law enforcement, and ran through the halls looking for senior elected officials. All while Trump did nothing to stop them.

I retired from the media world fifteen years ago, and I am surprised Fox is so well watched. A quick glimpse says the numbers are from 8- 11 PM, so when I have time, I will research more.

I thought that out of the 300k, it was closer to 2k who got physical. And from what I read, they did not have any explosives or firearms. If this were an insurrection, there would have been more participants and better armed. I also heard that there were about 25 DOJ staffers there without a reason, and the question is, why were they possibly involved in instigating this? I will watch your video when I have more time.