Recruiting

[Wolegib]

My thoughts are from experience, UW's success in football and basketball started when they made it a policy of keeping the best players from Wisconsin in each sport to go to Wisconsin. And you can see in their recruiting, they go after keeping the best.

My thoughts are Purdue is a state school, and if it focused on going after the best Indiana basketball talent, it would bring in some very good players. if Purdue could haul in the top 2-3 Indiana high school players each year, we'd have a very good team.

On a related note, I'd like to see Purdue do away with its 4 year high school math requirement. I believe if yo u loo k around the BIG 10 and country, you will see that 4th year has little to no effect on an athlete's academic success at Purdue or any other major University. Rather than requiring 4 years of math, I believe Purdue should follow the road of other major academic universities like Michigan, Northwestern and Stanford and allow the college major dictate the high school pre-requisites. To enter engineering, require 4 years of math, and a strong science background. for education or agriculture, maybe 4 years of math is not required. in other words it's time Purdue got with the program and followed the lead of other leading academic universities. I don't want to lower our academic standards, but rather follow the lead and success of schools like Northwestern, Michigan, OSU, Notre Dame, Stanford, and many other highly respected universities.

 

[Inspector100]

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On a related note, I'd like to see Purdue do away with its 4 year high school math requirement. I believe if yo u loo k around the BIG 10 and country, you will see that 4th year has little to no effect on an athlete's academic success at Purdue or any other major University. Rather than requiring 4 years of math, I believe Purdue should follow the road of other major academic universities like Michigan, Northwestern and Stanford and allow the college major dictate the high school pre-requisites. To enter engineering, require 4 years of math, and a strong science background. for education or agriculture, maybe 4 years of math is not required. in other words it's time Purdue got with the program and followed the lead of other leading academic universities. I don't want to lower our academic standards, but rather follow the lead and success of schools like Northwestern, Michigan, OSU, Notre Dame, Stanford, and many other highly respected universities.

You make it sound like the schools you mentioned are superior to Purdue academically because they do not require 4 years of math in most of there majors. While those schools definitely are highly respected, I suggest you revise this point to more accurately describe the academic culture in the US.

 

[Wolegib]

You make it sound like the schools you mentioned are superior to Purdue academically because they do not require 4 years of math in most of there majors. While those schools definitely are highly respected, I suggest you revise this point to more accurately describe the academic culture in the US.

Quite the opposite.

What I'm saying is the schools I listed are superior academically to Purdue, and I believe most people would agree with me. And they don't require 4 years of math as part of their entrance requirements. . So that 4th year of math has had no real benefit or affect on the academic standards of the students who enter those Universities. Are the students who attend Stanford and MIT dumber than Purdue students? Are Purdue students smarter than MIT students?

If MIT and other Ivy league schools don't require 4 years of math for admittance, why should Purdue ? Do you actually believe Purdue is getting smarter and better students because they require a 4th year of math? the answer is NO ! .

So why does Purdue still require 4 years ? I believe it's solely because our academics administation department is too lazy to conduct any study to change it. That's the way it's always been, so why bother changing it.

Purdue is a great academic school. but it's not great because its students had 4 years of math in high school. Other schools have placed more emphasis on standardized test scores and GPA for their entrance requirements. if a student is a genius, he doesn't need 4 years of English, math, science or a foreign language to prove it.

What I'm saying is Purdue needs to study their academic entrance requirements, and model them in accordance with other universities noted for their high academic excellence. if Michigan doesn't require 4 years of math, if MIT doesn't require 4 years of math, if Stanford doesn't require 4 years of math, if Nnorthwestern doesn't require 4 years of math, why should Purdue ?

And I could list 100 other universities with very high academic standards that don't require 4 years of math. Are their students smarter because they didn't take that 4th year of math? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! They were intelligent to begin with. and the vast majority of them actually have taken 4 years of math. But the universities like Northwestern are also intelligent enough to realize that 4th year of math was not what made their incoming students smart. The student that is admitted to Northwestern is one of the smartest students in our country. But their university is smart enough to review and change their entrance requirements to ensure that future students are also as intelligent.

Why does Purdue still require 4 years of math? I say laziness on the hands of Purdue administrators.

 

[70boiler]

I don't think it's in-state that is the main point. Indiana high school basketball and the recruits coming out of it are regularly some of the best of any state in the nation. If Purdue can recruit its home state well, that means we are getting good players. That's my opinion on it anyway.

I agree wholeheartedly with you on that. My comment is more toward those who are so focused on in-state that they look with disdain on out of state efforts as if out of staters are definitionally inferior.
I'm fairly comfortable that there are a fair number on here that would disagree with Painter working to recruit a Chicago area athlete (120 miles away) as hard as a comparable Evansville player (180 miles away).

 

[tjreese]

I don't think it's in-state that is the main point. Indiana high school basketball and the recruits coming out of it are regularly some of the best of any state in the nation. If Purdue can recruit its home state well, that means we are getting good players. That's my opinion on it anyway.

you beat me to it. Years ago Norm Sloan was well known to prefer Indiana guards because the could shoot the ball. Although I think coaching in Indiana is generally a cut above the other states, the other states have closed that gap. Still, the state of Indiana "generally" approves of intelligent basketball with teh skill having some sprinkles of athletic plays as well. I think other states reverse that somewhat...

 

[tjreese]

Quite the opposite.

What I'm saying is the schools I listed are superior academically to Purdue, and I believe most people would agree with me. And they don't require 4 years of math as part of their entrance requirements. . So that 4th year of math has had no real benefit or affect on the academic standards of the students who enter those Universities. Are the students who attend Stanford and MIT dumber than Purdue students? Are Purdue students smarter than MIT students?

If MIT and other Ivy league schools don't require 4 years of math for admittance, why should Purdue ? Do you actually believe Purdue is getting smarter and better students because they require a 4th year of math? the answer is NO ! .

So why does Purdue still require 4 years ? I believe it's solely because our academics administation department is too lazy to conduct any study to change it. That's the way it's always been, so why bother changing it.

Purdue is a great academic school. but it's not great because its students had 4 years of math in high school. Other schools have placed more emphasis on standardized test scores and GPA for their entrance requirements. if a student is a genius, he doesn't need 4 years of English, math, science or a foreign language to prove it.

What I'm saying is Purdue needs to study their academic entrance requirements, and model them in accordance with other universities noted for their high academic excellence. if Michigan doesn't require 4 years of math, if MIT doesn't require 4 years of math, if Stanford doesn't require 4 years of math, if Nnorthwestern doesn't require 4 years of math, why should Purdue ?

And I could list 100 other universities with very high academic standards that don't require 4 years of math. Are their students smarter because they didn't take that 4th year of math? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! They were intelligent to begin with. and the vast majority of them actually have taken 4 years of math. But the universities like Northwestern are also intelligent enough to realize that 4th year of math was not what made their incoming students smart. The student that is admitted to Northwestern is one of the smartest students in our country. But their university is smart enough to review and change their entrance requirements to ensure that future students are also as intelligent.

Why does Purdue still require 4 years of math? I say laziness on the hands of Purdue administrators.

What academic measure are you aware of any college relative to content learned? FWIW, I have a niece that received some "freshman of the year award" for academics at Northwestern a couple of decades ago. I'm truly not sure what she learned. GPAs would be not be the best measure for engineering, science and technology students, but would be fine for liberal art majors. None of this is to say that four years of math is needed for all majors although math is pretty damn crucial to really understand many things. I don't understand your comment on standardized tests either because Purdue is heavy on them. Still, outside of the things I mentioned a person could graduate in many majors without much math and therefore wouldn't need four years in high school...that we can agree. Thought you migh enjoy this...

http://www.gradeinflation.com/

 

[JohnHoosierr]

So, with all that, headed for a title? Final four?

Agree. I mean judging by that dudes description of our talent we should be favored to win the title every year. Yet we get completely stomped out in the s16 even worse than vcu did to us.

 

[hoosierdog1]

I don't think it's in-state that is the main point. Indiana high school basketball and the recruits coming out of it are regularly some of the best of any state in the nation. If Purdue can recruit its home state well, that means we are getting good players. That's my opinion on it anyway.

+1

 

[Wolegib]

What academic measure are you aware of any college relative to content learned? FWIW, I have a niece that received some "freshman of the year award" for academics at Northwestern a couple of decades ago. I'm truly not sure what she learned. GPAs would be not be the best measure for engineering, science and technology students, but would be fine for liberal art majors. None of this is to say that four years of math is needed for all majors although math is pretty damn crucial to really understand many things. I don't understand your comment on standardized tests either because Purdue is heavy on them. Still, outside of the things I mentioned a person could graduate in many majors without much math and therefore wouldn't need four years in high school...that we can agree. Thought you migh enjoy this...

http://www.gradeinflation.com/

I believe you are helping me make my point.

When I referred to GPA, it was their high school GPA, not their college GPA.

my point on standardized tests is that all schools use them , and always have for admissions purposes. And for most schools with high academic standards, you need a very high standardized test score to be accepted. MIT's requirement is very high. Vvery high. it's yuge! so high even Don wasn't admitted. MIT's application process doesn't request for a specific number of years in any subject. MIT looks at a student's high school GPA and test scores and an essay and activities for their admission requirements. It asks for transcripts, and you fill out a form of your high school classwork. But they use that test score as their prime admission factor. That's why we now have high school courses on how to take the standardized test.

My entire point is that the best academic universities in our nation NO longer use across the board coursework admission requirements for high school classes. they are more flexible based on the major the student wants to pursue. the Univ of Michigan and northwestern provide very good examples of this flexibility.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/freshmen-applicants/college-preparation

take a look. both Engineering and nursing programs require 4 years of math. all other majors require 3 years. Northwestern is very similar. they base their admission requirements on the college major.

and this system works, and brings the best students to the best universities.


for many degree programs that Purdue offers, having a strong background in math is essential. But if the student had advanced algebra In 8th grade, and then took geometry in 9th, trig in 10th and pre-calc or calc in 11th, does he really need to take a 4th year? I don't think so. on the other hand, if a student is going to major in early childhood education, do they really need to have 4 years of high school math? Purdue's admission requirements say YES.


there is no reason Purdue couldn't modify their admission requirements based on degree program requirements. They just don't. and I call that being administratively lazy.

 

[Do Dah Day]

What academic measure are you aware of any college relative to content learned? FWIW, I have a niece that received some "freshman of the year award" for academics at Northwestern a couple of decades ago. I'm truly not sure what she learned. GPAs would be not be the best measure for engineering, science and technology students, but would be fine for liberal art majors. None of this is to say that four years of math is needed for all majors although math is pretty damn crucial to really understand many things. I don't understand your comment on standardized tests either because Purdue is heavy on them. Still, outside of the things I mentioned a person could graduate in many majors without much math and therefore wouldn't need four years in high school...that we can agree. Thought you migh enjoy this...

http://www.gradeinflation.com/

We call it grade-creep. Engineers are normally aware of project creep. Personally, I call it either fear-of-parents, or conflict-management. Either way, a degree is not what it used to be.

 

[Do Dah Day]

I believe you are helping me make my point.

When I referred to GPA, it was their high school GPA, not their college GPA.

my point on standardized tests is that all schools use them , and always have for admissions purposes. And for most schools with high academic standards, you need a very high standardized test score to be accepted. MIT's requirement is very high. Vvery high. it's yuge! so high even Don wasn't admitted. MIT's application process doesn't request for a specific number of years in any subject. MIT looks at a student's high school GPA and test scores and an essay and activities for their admission requirements. It asks for transcripts, and you fill out a form of your high school classwork. But they use that test score as their prime admission factor. That's why we now have high school courses on how to take the standardized test.

My entire point is that the best academic universities in our nation NO longer use across the board coursework admission requirements for high school classes. they are more flexible based on the major the student wants to pursue. the Univ of Michigan and northwestern provide very good examples of this flexibility.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/freshmen-applicants/college-preparation

take a look. both Engineering and nursing programs require 4 years of math. all other majors require 3 years. Northwestern is very similar. they base their admission requirements on the college major.

and this system works, and brings the best students to the best universities.


for many degree programs that Purdue offers, having a strong background in math is essential. But if the student had advanced algebra In 8th grade, and then took geometry in 9th, trig in 10th and pre-calc or calc in 11th, does he really need to take a 4th year? I don't think so. on the other hand, if a student is going to major in early childhood education, do they really need to have 4 years of high school math? Purdue's admission requirements say YES.


there is no reason Purdue couldn't modify their admission requirements based on degree program requirements. They just don't. and I call that being administratively lazy.

I'll stick my toe in this cesspool again ... much against my better judgement. I have not run into an athlete who had to have more than the core-40 plus NCAA approval to gain entry. It's after they start classes that the doe-in-the-headlights look comes. Like, the elements of an essay? I haven't had to write an essay ... well ... ever. OH, and I just had graduation two days ago. It's Monday in early June and I have a college essay due on Friday.

 

[tjreese]

I believe you are helping me make my point.

When I referred to GPA, it was their high school GPA, not their college GPA.

my point on standardized tests is that all schools use them , and always have for admissions purposes. And for most schools with high academic standards, you need a very high standardized test score to be accepted. MIT's requirement is very high. Vvery high. it's yuge! so high even Don wasn't admitted. MIT's application process doesn't request for a specific number of years in any subject. MIT looks at a student's high school GPA and test scores and an essay and activities for their admission requirements. It asks for transcripts, and you fill out a form of your high school classwork. But they use that test score as their prime admission factor. That's why we now have high school courses on how to take the standardized test.

My entire point is that the best academic universities in our nation NO longer use across the board coursework admission requirements for high school classes. they are more flexible based on the major the student wants to pursue. the Univ of Michigan and northwestern provide very good examples of this flexibility.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/freshmen-applicants/college-preparation

take a look. both Engineering and nursing programs require 4 years of math. all other majors require 3 years. Northwestern is very similar. they base their admission requirements on the college major.

and this system works, and brings the best students to the best universities.


for many degree programs that Purdue offers, having a strong background in math is essential. But if the student had advanced algebra In 8th grade, and then took geometry in 9th, trig in 10th and pre-calc or calc in 11th, does he really need to take a 4th year? I don't think so. on the other hand, if a student is going to major in early childhood education, do they really need to have 4 years of high school math? Purdue's admission requirements say YES.


there is no reason Purdue couldn't modify their admission requirements based on degree program requirements. They just don't. and I call that being administratively lazy.

You are on a roll...where I do not know. The grade inflation is worse in k-12 government schools which helps load the inflation in college. So far...and you really can't answer what I asked, because there is no measure of how much a student learns to determine the academic excellence of a school ...we really have no measure on the transmission of knowledge to determine how good a college is. It is all a perception based upon something. There are all kinds of standardized tests. However, any of merit (other than SAT and ACT etc. )for consideration either fall into the criterion referenced or the norm referenced tests. Both can be manipulated. Personally, I prefer a norm referenced test with a stringent criterion approach...and so I would prefer something that establishes a real pecking order, but that isn't correct in today's political environment where everyone is a winner.

Many of the "potentially bright" students are brought to those universities...kinda like Crean recruiting and then the players not learning anything. Well, they do learn things I know, but let's not pretend that potentially bright people end up being bright just because they went to school with other potentially bright people. Now, I'm not sure on the comment about starting algebra in the 8th grade and "still" needing four years only because I think that honors math could be considered a high school credit...at least I thought that was true..but it has been years since I visited that. My ex taught honors algebra to eighth graders. Then again...WHY take algebra in the eighth grade if you have no intention to take four years...and who that is capable of taking a real honors eighth grade math class, quits math as a junior?

Now, I agree with you that many majors do NOT require that much math. I'll also state that unless Purdue has changed, they consider class rank since inflation is confounded in the data and spread throughout. I'll also state that unless Purdue has changed...that they will look at your particular coursework and how well you did in certain courses rather than a GPA for whatever.

 

[Wolegib]

At my high school, pre calc was the highest math class available. The normal trek for college prep was to take algebra 1 in 9th grade followed by geometry, alegebra 2 and trig. Some students took algebra 2 in 9th grade and took pre calc as a senior. Yes, we took 4 years of math, but only because we liked it.

My point is a simple one but seems to be lost on many.

I believe we can agree there are many schools that attract some very intelligent students.

And I believe most people here will agree that schools such as Northwestern, Michigan, Stanford and Purdue have some very stringent entrance requirements and all four schools have some very intelligent students that attend their schools.

But when you examine their entrance requirements, Purdue requires all students regardless of major to have 4 years of math, and it doesn't really spell out what those 4 years need to be as long as there are 4 years. In stark contrast to Purdue, those other 3 universities Have 3 or 4 or 0 classes of math required based purely on the program requirements. And this is where I'm calling Purdue out. If Stanford doesn't require their students to take 4 years of math, why should Purdue? Even the University of Chicago bases it math requirements on the college school program .

It just seems dumb to me that Purdue requires all students to take 4 years of math in high school, when the majority of its contemporary universities offer a flexible admission approach based on school concentration.

 

[GS Thomas]

I see 2 coaches leading the way in the league:

1) Izzo
2) Beilein

2nd tier:
Miller
Gard
Holtmann

3rd tier:
Painter
Pitino
Collins

I see dead people. Yawn

 

[Wolegib]

What I'm saying is a student with a 34 act and valedictorian of her class could be admitted to the Univ of Chicago, MIT, Michigan, Northwestern, and Stanford , but could be denied admission to Purdue because she only took three years of honors math.

Does that make sense? No. But neither does Purdue's admission requirements that ALL students take 4 years of high school math.

 

[mathboy]

What I'm saying is a student with a 34 act and valedictorian of her class could be admitted to the Univ of Chicago, MIT, Michigan, Northwestern, and Stanford , but could be denied admission to Purdue because she only took three years of honors math.

Does that make sense? No. But neither does Purdue's admission requirements that ALL students take 4 years of high school math.

You made a great point here. Maybe the 4years of math is too stringent. Got it. Let's get back to what is, and not what should be. An athlete can get into U-Chicago, MIT, Michigan, or Stanford, but could not get into Purdue, right? This is the recruiting disadvantage Purdue faces. Just bringing this thread back to an earlier argument.

 

[Do Dah Day]

You made a great point here. Maybe the 4years of math is too stringent. Got it. Let's get back to what is, and not what should be. An athlete can get into U-Chicago, MIT, Michigan, or Stanford, but could not get into Purdue, right? This is the recruiting disadvantage Purdue faces. Just bringing this thread back to an earlier argument.

Just to muddy the water, that student who took 6 semesters of honors math would not qualify for a HS diploma in Indiana unless they took a HS math class in 8th grade, That could be applied toward the CORE-40 - but to get a HS diploma in IN, one must have passed 8 semesters of HS math. There is no alternative diploma that would apply to 6 semesters of HS math

There is a CORE-40 with Honors diploma for the more advanced students.

 

[tjreese]

Just to muddy the water, that student who took 6 semesters of honors math would not qualify for a HS diploma in Indiana unless they took a HS math class in 8th grade, That could be applied toward the CORE-40 - but to get a HS diploma in IN, one must have passed 8 semesters of HS math. There is no alternative diploma that would apply to 6 semesters of HS math

There is a CORE-40 with Honors diploma for the more advanced students.

that is what I remember as well, but I haven't visited it for a long time.

 

[Wolegib]

That's disappointing! However I'm confident most students who took 3 years of honors math in high school probably took an advanced class in 8th grade! My high school denied our smartest student the opportunity to be valedictorian simply because he transferred to our school and had attended 9th grade in a different community

 

[PaBoiler78]

You made a great point here. Maybe the 4years of math is too stringent. Got it. Let's get back to what is, and not what should be. An athlete can get into U-Chicago, MIT, Michigan, or Stanford, but could not get into Purdue, right? This is the recruiting disadvantage Purdue faces. Just bringing this thread back to an earlier argument.

does this apply to iu and nd too?

 

[BoilerDeac]

Quite the opposite.

What I'm saying is the schools I listed are superior academically to Purdue, and I believe most people would agree with me. And they don't require 4 years of math as part of their entrance requirements. . So that 4th year of math has had no real benefit or affect on the academic standards of the students who enter those Universities. Are the students who attend Stanford and MIT dumber than Purdue students? Are Purdue students smarter than MIT students?

If MIT and other Ivy league schools don't require 4 years of math for admittance, why should Purdue ? Do you actually believe Purdue is getting smarter and better students because they require a 4th year of math? the answer is NO ! .

So why does Purdue still require 4 years ? I believe it's solely because our academics administation department is too lazy to conduct any study to change it. That's the way it's always been, so why bother changing it.

Purdue is a great academic school. but it's not great because its students had 4 years of math in high school. Other schools have placed more emphasis on standardized test scores and GPA for their entrance requirements. if a student is a genius, he doesn't need 4 years of English, math, science or a foreign language to prove it.

What I'm saying is Purdue needs to study their academic entrance requirements, and model them in accordance with other universities noted for their high academic excellence. if Michigan doesn't require 4 years of math, if MIT doesn't require 4 years of math, if Stanford doesn't require 4 years of math, if Nnorthwestern doesn't require 4 years of math, why should Purdue ?

And I could list 100 other universities with very high academic standards that don't require 4 years of math. Are their students smarter because they didn't take that 4th year of math? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! They were intelligent to begin with. and the vast majority of them actually have taken 4 years of math. But the universities like Northwestern are also intelligent enough to realize that 4th year of math was not what made their incoming students smart. The student that is admitted to Northwestern is one of the smartest students in our country. But their university is smart enough to review and change their entrance requirements to ensure that future students are also as intelligent.

Why does Purdue still require 4 years of math? I say laziness on the hands of Purdue administrators.

Spot on. It's classic Purdue being late to the party.

 

[tjreese]

Spot on. It's classic Purdue being late to the party.

not sure about the timing, but thinking Purdue was first to the party and the others didn't follow

 

[mathboy]

does this apply to iu and nd too?

Don't have a clue

 

[BoilerDeac]

not sure about the timing, but thinking Purdue was first to the party and the others didn't follow

Purdue requiring 4 years of math in HS, while other schools like Stanford, Northwestern, and others do not, is what I meant by Purdue being late to the party.

 

[Wolegib]

Purdue requiring 4 years of math in HS, while other schools like Stanford, Northwestern, and others do not, is what I meant by Purdue being late to the party.

and it just seems like Purdue is either being stubborn or lazy in changing their admission requirements. Well, we never had a problem in the past, it must not be broken, so why try to fix it?

But the problem does exist.. and if you take off your athletic hat, and put on your academic hat, you will notice that Purdue academics and standing is slipping in all schools to the schools who have tailored their academic entrance requirements. Purdue's academic standing is still great, but not as great as when I went to school. is the 4 year math requirement the cause ? No. But it's a reflection that Purdue does not keep up with the times, or react and change very much.

 

[BoilerDeac]

and it just seems like Purdue is either being stubborn or lazy in changing their admission requirements. Well, we never had a problem in the past, it must not be broken, so why try to fix it?

But the problem does exist.. and if you take off your athletic hat, and put on your academic hat, you will notice that Purdue academics and standing is slipping in all schools to the schools who have tailored their academic entrance requirements. Purdue's academic standing is still great, but not as great as when I went to school. is the 4 year math requirement the cause ? No. But it's a reflection that Purdue does not keep up with the times, or react and change very much.

Yep, exactly what I was trying to say. You just said it better than I did! haha

 

[tjreese]

Purdue requiring 4 years of math in HS, while other schools like Stanford, Northwestern, and others do not, is what I meant by Purdue being late to the party.

I know that and Purdue didn't use to do that. That is why I said Purdue started something and others didn't follow and so Purdue was early to a party that didn't exist.

 

[BoilerDeac]

I know that and Purdue didn't use to do that. That is why I said Purdue started something and others didn't follow and so Purdue was early to a party that didn't exist.

Ahhhh right over my head! my bad! haha

 

[mathboy]

and it just seems like Purdue is either being stubborn or lazy in changing their admission requirements. Well, we never had a problem in the past, it must not be broken, so why try to fix it?

But the problem does exist.. and if you take off your athletic hat, and put on your academic hat, you will notice that Purdue academics and standing is slipping in all schools to the schools who have tailored their academic entrance requirements. Purdue's academic standing is still great, but not as great as when I went to school. is the 4 year math requirement the cause ? No. But it's a reflection that Purdue does not keep up with the times, or react and change very much.

Yes, there is slippage academically. It is minor, but perceptible. Much of it has to do with not recruiting and maintaining a superior teaching and research faculty. In my opinion, much of this happened during a period 5-8 years ago, during the Cordova administration. This will take years to repair, but my hopes are that Daniels will do his best to correct this problem. I think we will look back on the Cordova presidency as the worst in Purdue’s history, both athletically and academically.

 

[MKordIUBB]

As an IU fan, Purdue would be below Painters level of recruiting if you had Crean IMO. If you saw how downhill he was going since 2016, you'd know. He used the "it's Indiana" pitch and the recruits stopped buying it. Eric Hunter called Crean "wish washy." I'll also take a WILD guess and say Painter would do better at IU than Crean, as the name on the jersey might push some recruits over the top.

Yes we do have high standards, but they aren't unrealistic and they aren't unfair to any coach not named Stevens.

 

[Wolegib]

that's a good question. I've always thought of Purdue being on par with IU. However, IU has had bigger success and has been able to lure in better recruits. If Painter was the coach at IU, would he be able to bring in better recruits? Somehow I doubt it as he would go after the same type of players. Would he be more successful in signing his Plan A players if he was at IU ? I don't know. Langford said he was considering IU. Would he consider IU if Painter was their coach? Would JJJ choose IU over MSU if Painter was there?

Is the school of IU that big of a draw for basketball recruits regardless of the coach? I doubt Painter would change his style of play. Any thoughts?

 

[Mandeville LA]

that's a good question. I've always thought of Purdue being on par with IU. However, IU has had bigger success and has been able to lure in better recruits. If Painter was the coach at IU, would he be able to bring in better recruits? Somehow I doubt it as he would go after the same type of players. Would he be more successful in signing his Plan A players if he was at IU ? I don't know. Langford said he was considering IU. Would he consider IU if Painter was their coach? Would JJJ choose IU over MSU if Painter was there?

Is the school of IU that big of a draw for basketball recruits regardless of the coach? I doubt Painter would change his style of play. Any thoughts?

100% agree. painter would not change his approach. Why would he? Unlike some on here, I think he has done a fine job (other that the dark days that I cannot explane) at showing he is a top notch coach. I think Painter would do better at other schools with a bigger name. All the more reason why we should be happy to have him.

There you go. My 300th post. never thought I would get there. Some of you have grown on me so I guess I will stick around. Its not like my wife is going to suddenly want to talk about PU basketball.

 

[Mandeville LA]

100% agree. painter would not change his approach. Why would he? Unlike some on here, I think he has done a fine job (other that the dark days that I cannot enplane) at showing he is a top notch coach. I think Painter would do better at other schools with a bigger name. All the more reason we should be happy to have him.

There you go. My 300th post. never thought I would get there. Some of you have grown on me so I guess I will stick around. Its not like my wife is going to suddenly going to want to talk about PU basketball.

Never mind that was 299. But I think this will take care of things. Got to have goals you know.