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Ranking the best college football coaching hires in the Power Five

Tiller retired a bitter man. Too bad Bobinski was not around then, he is a football guy and I think association with Joe would have had a positive influence on the program then. Seems Tiller has gotten over things from what I have read? Wonder what he thinks of the HC hire?
 
When was the last time Purdue athletics was recognized for doing something well? Holy cow! We may just be entering a golden period for Purdue athletics!

Now, we all need to buy season tickets and support this program like crazy!
 
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Reasonable minds can differ.....that probably takes me off the hook on this question.

Then again....

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I told you yesterday that I hope I'm wrong about this hire. A single talking head makes Brohm's hire as the best even over the move Texas made.....I have to question his logic. But again, I hope you're right about Brohm.

All due respect, negative opinions of the hire have been nearly non-existent so far as I've seen and that includes those opinions from those that cover college football and not just Purdue football. Yours is one of the few I've seen. Doesn't make you right or wrong but it does make you noteworthy on this board especially.
 
I told you yesterday that I hope I'm wrong about this hire. A single talking head makes Brohm's hire as the best even over the move Texas made.....I have to question his logic. But again, I hope you're right about Brohm.
For hoping you're wrong, you seem pretty sure you aren't.
 
For hoping you're wrong, you seem pretty sure you aren't.
Sorry, but I remember the excitement and adulation given on the hiring of Hazell. When I looked at his record, on paper, he had all the credentials needed to turn the Boilers around with the exception of one thing...winning with his own players. Hazell, like Brohm, said all the right things....and failed miserably. And I said he would from day one because of his lack of experience. Does that mean Brohm will be the next Hazell...no it doesn't. Does it mean he'll come in and turn it around and get to major bowls...no it doesn't. The guy has been a HC for three years in a non power conference, and granted his record seems pretty good But....Purdue and the Big are different animals. The one thing I like about Brohm as opposed to Hazell...and I'm guessing it's the AD's decision...is that he's recruiting for PU instead of coaching WKU in what ever bowl they're in. I could care less about slogan's or sayings, and will be impressed when he leads PU to an 10 win season and a major bowl and brings in four and five star's every year. Anything less is settling in my opinion....because there should be no excuses for not being in the top four of the league every year.
 
Sorry, but I remember the excitement and adulation given on the hiring of Hazell. When I looked at his record, on paper, he had all the credentials needed to turn the Boilers around with the exception of one thing...winning with his own players. Hazell, like Brohm, said all the right things....and failed miserably. And I said he would from day one because of his lack of experience. Does that mean Brohm will be the next Hazell...no it doesn't. Does it mean he'll come in and turn it around and get to major bowls...no it doesn't. The guy has been a HC for three years in a non power conference, and granted his record seems pretty good But....Purdue and the Big are different animals. The one thing I like about Brohm as opposed to Hazell...and I'm guessing it's the AD's decision...is that he's recruiting for PU instead of coaching WKU in what ever bowl they're in. I could care less about slogan's or sayings, and will be impressed when he leads PU to an 10 win season and a major bowl and brings in four and five star's every year. Anything less is settling in my opinion....because there should be no excuses for not being in the top four of the league every year.
What you say is true for almost every coach hired by P5 teams this year: Taggart at Oregon, Rhule at Baylor, Herman at Texas, etc. Should all those teams be as disappointed in their hirings as you are in Brohm?

And who's left withthe credentials you desire?

Miles? Fired. Unemployed. Couldn't win WITH talent.

Briles? Fired. Unemployed. Rape culture.

Shiano? Has baggage.

Who else is there that is better than Brohm that another P5 program actually wants?

Answer: No One. You just like to complain, it seems.
 
Last year I said the two best hires were Justin Fuente at VT and Dino Babers at Syracuse. I'm not trying to be biased, but Brohm and Herman are the two best hires this season.
 
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Sorry, but I remember the excitement and adulation given on the hiring of Hazell. When I looked at his record, on paper, he had all the credentials needed to turn the Boilers around with the exception of one thing...winning with his own players. Hazell, like Brohm, said all the right things....and failed miserably. And I said he would from day one because of his lack of experience. Does that mean Brohm will be the next Hazell...no it doesn't. Does it mean he'll come in and turn it around and get to major bowls...no it doesn't. The guy has been a HC for three years in a non power conference, and granted his record seems pretty good But....Purdue and the Big are different animals. The one thing I like about Brohm as opposed to Hazell...and I'm guessing it's the AD's decision...is that he's recruiting for PU instead of coaching WKU in what ever bowl they're in. I could care less about slogan's or sayings, and will be impressed when he leads PU to an 10 win season and a major bowl and brings in four and five star's every year. Anything less is settling in my opinion....because there should be no excuses for not being in the top four of the league every year.
It's sad you can't decipher the difference between Hazell and Brohm. Because it's substantial.
 
Charlie Strong was also available and not hired by anybody. I have concerns about Strong. He was a tremendous recruiter, yet, he still couldn't win with the talent he recruited at Texas. At most schools, 4/5 star athletes play significant time as freshmen and start as sophomores. Saying a team is young is just an excuse for losing. I also don't believe the cupboard was as bare as Texas fans would have you believe. A bare cupboard in Texas is probably still twice as good as a full cupboard at Purdue. If you can't win at Texas, where can you win? I have to believe part of the problem with hiring Miles was his salary asking price.
 
What you say is true for almost every coach hired by P5 teams this year: Taggart at Oregon, Rhule at Baylor, Herman at Texas, etc. Should all those teams be as disappointed in their hirings as you are in Brohm?

And who's left withthe credentials you desire?

Miles? Fired. Unemployed. Couldn't win WITH talent.

Briles? Fired. Unemployed. Rape culture.

Shiano? Has baggage.

Who else is there that is better than Brohm that another P5 program actually wants?

Answer: No One. You just like to complain, it seems.
No, Matt Rhule is NOT in the same category as the others that you mentioned. He took one of the worst programs and turned it around with his own recruits to win the AAC in his fourth year as HC.

Head coaching record[edit]
Year Team Overall Conference Standing Bowl/playoffs Coaches# AP°
Temple Owls
(American Athletic Conference) (2013–2016)
2013 Temple 2–10 1–7 T–9th
2014 Temple 6–6 4–4 6th
2015 Temple 10–4 7–1 1st (East) L Boca Raton
2016 Temple 10–3 7–1 1st (East) Military*
Temple: 28–23 19–13 * Departed Temple for Baylor before bowl game
 
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Wild hogs was not that bad. It wasn't great but it wasn't bad

I hear you, and I have watched it more than once and found parts humorous, but candidly some of the humor was rather forced.

An unfair shot? Pershaps, but for the talent in that film (many of whom I really like)....it mostly just didn't work for me.....and I really wanted to like it. In addition to Tim Allen.....Marisa Tomei, Ray Liotta, John Travolota, and William H. Macy....story-line and script was too limited, I guess. JMO
 
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I told you yesterday that I hope I'm wrong about this hire. A single talking head makes Brohm's hire as the best even over the move Texas made.....I have to question his logic. But again, I hope you're right about Brohm.
So far that talking head has been extremely positive. I have not seen anyone yet saying it was questionable at all. There's only one way to find out. Here's to hoping the heads are right!
 
Brohm and Allen were both good hires. Brohm is an offensive whiz. Allen is a defensive whiz.
I'm not sold on Allen. He's going to be HC AND DC moving forward. I don't see how he could do both his first time out at a P5 program. How long did Wilson take before he got a winning record when he started with zero HC experience? That was AFTER IU already got to a bowl game.
 
No, Matt Rhule is NOT in the same category as the others that you mentioned. He took one of the worst programs and turned it around with his own recruits to win the AAC in his fourth year as HC.

Head coaching record[edit]
Year Team Overall Conference Standing Bowl/playoffs Coaches# AP°
Temple Owls
(American Athletic Conference) (2013–2016)
2013 Temple 2–10 1–7 T–9th
2014 Temple 6–6 4–4 6th
2015 Temple 10–4 7–1 1st (East) L Boca Raton
2016 Temple 10–3 7–1 1st (East) Military*
Temple: 28–23 19–13 * Departed Temple for Baylor before bowl game
I know his record and posted it prior to Brohms hiring. He's more of a Big Ten type coach than Baylor. It seems like he took the Baylor job just because he didn't want to be left out of the party. Why Baylor?
 
I know his record and posted it prior to Brohms hiring. He's more of a Big Ten type coach than Baylor. It seems like he took the Baylor job just because he didn't want to be left out of the party. Why Baylor?
I agree, he fits into the Big Ten culture better than the Texas schools.

You ask why he took the job. He was making $1M at Temple and probably triple that at Baylor. No matter what happens at Baylor, he is now financially secure for the rest of his life.
 
Rhule thought that the psu job was going to open up so he stayed at Temple an extra year. After this season Franklin is there a minimum of 2 more years. No one called him up Purdue was big on brohms and Fleck. Texas was all Herman, lsu was Herman or Jimbo lost both and decided to wait a year or 2, he doesn't have the flash for Oregon, and his best option would have probably been IU (but they quickly filled the position).

So you have Baylor who I'd in a terrible position and Rhule. He gets his big pay day, but the odds are severely against him.
 
Santa Clause was great, they just made too many. Toy Story franchise is by far Allen's best... It's not even debatable.
But Toy Story is an ensemble cast with much of the focus on Tom Hank's Woody. Galaxy Quest gets top marks for poking fun of sci-fi in a clever and respectful way, and of course features the late great Alan Rickman.
 
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