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We're out at pro day today and will have a report on the site this afternoon.

In the meantime, will tweet some numbers.
 
Raheem Mostert is posting some pretty good numbers. It would be awesome to see him drafted late rounds
 
Originally posted by JBoiler14:
Raheem Mostert is posting some pretty good numbers. It would be awesome to see him drafted late rounds
Agreed. Also, seeing that Cottom ran a 4.59 at his size - still makes me wonder why neither coaching staff gave him more opportunities. If I'm an NFL team that uses the full back at all - I'm looking his way for sure.
 
Originally posted by Fan4Life:
Originally posted by JBoiler14:
Raheem Mostert is posting some pretty good numbers. It would be awesome to see him drafted late rounds
Agreed. Also, seeing that Cottom ran a 4.59 at his size - still makes me wonder why neither coaching staff gave him more opportunities. If I'm an NFL team that uses the full back at all - I'm looking his way for sure.
Cottom was a bad blocker and did use his size when he ran.
 
He ran well against 2013 MSU. Me thinks I hear a non-physical explanation. He was indeed a poor blocker.
 
Nice report on the Pro Day, hope as many boilers as possible get a looksey from the pros. I know many feel Cottom should have gotten more chances, and he did seem to run hard for a least a quarter or so in that 2013 MSU game. But if memory serves, he seemed to run less hard as the game progressed and ended up with what, about 40 yards? Maybe got "dinged" at some point? I always think back to a Tiller era player who was described as looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Anyways, hope as many as these kids as possible get a look
 
If Brandon Jacobs had some good years in the Pro's , I think Cottom could too. If he goes to the right team of course.
 
Originally posted by PaBoiler78:
If Brandon Jacobs had some good years in the Pro's , I think Cottom could too. If he goes to the right team of course.
Lol. There are no similarities other than size.
 
Originally posted by nat100:

Originally posted by PaBoiler78:
If Brandon Jacobs had some good years in the Pro's , I think Cottom could too. If he goes to the right team of course.
Lol. There are no similarities other than size.
I think Cottom would have been best served as a LB or DE. He choose Purdue because he wanted to be a RB...but maybe he didn't want it bad enough? I think he could have done some damage as a TE too.

Gabe Holmes would have been a 1st round draft pick....if he could catch. I could see Sinz latch on somewhere and have a fringe type career like Kyle Adams did.
 
In all due fairness to Cottom, it wasn't like any RB for the past 2 years were decent pass blockers. Seemed like the staff found ways to capitalize on the strengths of Hunt and Mostert. Would have been interesting to see what Cottom could have done had the coaches made allowances for him. But then again, the question remains, would the allowance been worth it? Prob not, but who knows right!
 
Originally posted by spoiledboiler2000:
In all due fairness to Cottom, it wasn't like any RB for the past 2 years were decent pass blockers. Seemed like the staff found ways to capitalize on the strengths of Hunt and Mostert. Would have been interesting to see what Cottom could have done had the coaches made allowances for him. But then again, the question remains, would the allowance been worth it? Prob not, but who knows right!
The poster said fullback. Coaches tried Cottom at FB. Didnt work.
 
cottom at RB rather than FB - hard to grasp that he wasn't as durable as hunt or especially mostert for their desired power run game, runs up the middle, short yardage, etc.
 
not for long, he seemed to dislike contact mostly when I saw him. His physicality should have led to great production....but
 
Originally posted by BoilerBiker:
cottom at RB rather than FB - hard to grasp that he wasn't as durable as hunt or especially mostert for their desired power run game, runs up the middle, short yardage, etc.
He rarely used his size. Hunt ran more north south than he did.
 
Mosert's numbers are ridiculous. 20 reps on the bench is really impressive for a guy his size. Legit 40 inch vertical is also pretty insane to go along with blazing 4.32 speed. Hunt's are pretty good as well.
 
Can somebody explain to me how a team that has been absolutely atrocious for the past two years can have enough senior talent to actually host a pro day or am I missing something on how well the coaches are preparing them for the future but not the present?
 
Originally posted by SIBoiler2:

Can somebody explain to me how a team that has been absolutely atrocious for the past two years can have enough senior talent to actually host a pro day or am I missing something on how well the coaches are preparing them for the future but not the present?
Most Power 5 schools have them. Anyone can participate, regardless of how much they played. Happens every year.
 
Originally posted by SIBoiler2:

Can somebody explain to me how a team that has been absolutely atrocious for the past two years can have enough senior talent to actually host a pro day or am I missing something on how well the coaches are preparing them for the future but not the present?
Like NAT said, every team has them. Most big schools also allow smaller school guys to work out. Purdue had a punter from University of Indianapolis yesterday. Northwestern had guys from Spack's team at ISU. Sometimes guys that left in previous years work out if they were injured or want another shot as well.

Thank goodness they do to. Without one last year, Pamphile wouldn't have been found.
 
Originally posted by nat100:


Originally posted by BoilerBiker:
cottom at RB rather than FB - hard to grasp that he wasn't as durable as hunt or especially mostert for their desired power run game, runs up the middle, short yardage, etc.
He rarely used his size. Hunt ran more north south than he did.
Such astute insights on someone who carried the ball one time for three yards in his entire senior season.

Fact is, in three of his four years at Purdue, Brandon Cottom never lost a yard rushing. That's zero (0) yards lost for each of three full seasons on 32 rushing attempts.

That's all north and absolutely no south.

In the one and only season that Cottom did record negative yards, he lost a total of 15 yards for the year. Hunt could do that on one play.

As a freshman, Cottom averaged 8.8 yards per carry. As a sophomore, he averaged 9.1 yards per carry. As a junior, he averaged 3.4. As a senior, he had one carry for three yards. Can anyone guess what year the coaching staffs changed?

As for softness, he ran himself into a concussion at Michigan State. Before that, he was single-handedly dominating the Big Ten's toughest defense.

Of course, it's hard to be hard when you're forced to watch from the sidelines on back-to-back cellar dwellers.
 
Why do you think he didn't play for Hazell/Shoop? seeing as he was pretty good?
 
Originally posted by Born Boiler:
Originally posted by nat100:


Originally posted by BoilerBiker:
cottom at RB rather than FB - hard to grasp that he wasn't as durable as hunt or especially mostert for their desired power run game, runs up the middle, short yardage, etc.
He rarely used his size. Hunt ran more north south than he did.
Such astute insights on someone who carried the ball one time for three yards in his entire senior season.

Fact is, in three of his four years at Purdue, Brandon Cottom never lost a yard rushing. That's zero (0) yards lost for each of three full seasons on 32 rushing attempts.

That's all north and absolutely no south.

In the one and only season that Cottom did record negative yards, he lost a total of 15 yards for the year. Hunt could do that on one play.

As a freshman, Cottom averaged 8.8 yards per carry. As a sophomore, he averaged 9.1 yards per carry. As a junior, he averaged 3.4. As a senior, he had one carry for three yards. Can anyone guess what year the coaching staffs changed?

As for softness, he ran himself into a concussion at Michigan State. Before that, he was single-handedly dominating the Big Ten's toughest defense.

Of course, it's hard to be hard when you're forced to watch from the sidelines on back-to-back cellar dwellers.


Personal problem with me princess?

I watched enough to know what I saw.
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Originally posted by nat100:

Originally posted by Born Boiler:

Originally posted by nat100:



Originally posted by BoilerBiker:
cottom at RB rather than FB - hard to grasp that he wasn't as durable as hunt or especially mostert for their desired power run game, runs up the middle, short yardage, etc.
He rarely used his size. Hunt ran more north south than he did.
Such astute insights on someone who carried the ball one time for three yards in his entire senior season.

Fact is, in three of his four years at Purdue, Brandon Cottom never lost a yard rushing. That's zero (0) yards lost for each of three full seasons on 32 rushing attempts.

That's all north and absolutely no south.

In the one and only season that Cottom did record negative yards, he lost a total of 15 yards for the year. Hunt could do that on one play.

As a freshman, Cottom averaged 8.8 yards per carry. As a sophomore, he averaged 9.1 yards per carry. As a junior, he averaged 3.4. As a senior, he had one carry for three yards. Can anyone guess what year the coaching staffs changed?

As for softness, he ran himself into a concussion at Michigan State. Before that, he was single-handedly dominating the Big Ten's toughest defense.

Of course, it's hard to be hard when you're forced to watch from the sidelines on back-to-back cellar dwellers.


Personal problem with me princess?

I watched enough to know what I saw.

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When it comes to facing the facts, you have none. You only know what you saw. And the facts say you saw wrong.
 
Originally posted by Born Boiler:
Originally posted by nat100:

Originally posted by Born Boiler:

Originally posted by nat100:



Originally posted by BoilerBiker:
cottom at RB rather than FB - hard to grasp that he wasn't as durable as hunt or especially mostert for their desired power run game, runs up the middle, short yardage, etc.
He rarely used his size. Hunt ran more north south than he did.
Such astute insights on someone who carried the ball one time for three yards in his entire senior season.

Fact is, in three of his four years at Purdue, Brandon Cottom never lost a yard rushing. That's zero (0) yards lost for each of three full seasons on 32 rushing attempts.

That's all north and absolutely no south.

In the one and only season that Cottom did record negative yards, he lost a total of 15 yards for the year. Hunt could do that on one play.

As a freshman, Cottom averaged 8.8 yards per carry. As a sophomore, he averaged 9.1 yards per carry. As a junior, he averaged 3.4. As a senior, he had one carry for three yards. Can anyone guess what year the coaching staffs changed?

As for softness, he ran himself into a concussion at Michigan State. Before that, he was single-handedly dominating the Big Ten's toughest defense.

Of course, it's hard to be hard when you're forced to watch from the sidelines on back-to-back cellar dwellers.


Personal problem with me princess?

I watched enough to know what I saw.

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When it comes to facing the facts, you have none. You only know what you saw. And the facts say you saw wrong.





Re watch the games this year. Half hearted effort when lead blocking and thought he was a scar back when running. He was not suited for the big back role.

Also, most of those ypc were from one game against a crappy ooc opponent

Any facts that rebut that princess?
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Born, you think Hazell/Shoop have something against him personally?
 
Originally posted by nat100:

Originally posted by Born Boiler:

Originally posted by nat100:


Originally posted by Born Boiler:


Originally posted by nat100:




Originally posted by BoilerBiker:
cottom at RB rather than FB - hard to grasp that he wasn't as durable as hunt or especially mostert for their desired power run game, runs up the middle, short yardage, etc.
He rarely used his size. Hunt ran more north south than he did.
Such astute insights on someone who carried the ball one time for three yards in his entire senior season.

Fact is, in three of his four years at Purdue, Brandon Cottom never lost a yard rushing. That's zero (0) yards lost for each of three full seasons on 32 rushing attempts.

That's all north and absolutely no south.

In the one and only season that Cottom did record negative yards, he lost a total of 15 yards for the year. Hunt could do that on one play.

As a freshman, Cottom averaged 8.8 yards per carry. As a sophomore, he averaged 9.1 yards per carry. As a junior, he averaged 3.4. As a senior, he had one carry for three yards. Can anyone guess what year the coaching staffs changed?

As for softness, he ran himself into a concussion at Michigan State. Before that, he was single-handedly dominating the Big Ten's toughest defense.

Of course, it's hard to be hard when you're forced to watch from the sidelines on back-to-back cellar dwellers.


Personal problem with me princess?

I watched enough to know what I saw.


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When it comes to facing the facts, you have none. You only know what you saw. And the facts say you saw wrong.





Re watch the games this year. Half hearted effort when lead blocking and thought he was a scar back when running. He was not suited for the big back role.

Also, most of those ypc were from one game against a crappy ooc opponent

Any facts that rebut that princess?

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One game against one crappy opponent? When did Cottom have 32 carries against anyone? He had one carry as a senior.

Again, reality is lost on you, ass.
 
Originally posted by Born Boiler:
One game against one crappy opponent? When did Cottom have 32 carries against anyone? He had one carry as a senior.

Again, reality is lost on you, ass.
You dont read well do you princess ? Lead blocking was poor. Also, his big YPC from his sophomore year came from the EMU game where he had 2 carries for 95 yards. The other 11 games he had 42 carries for 106 yards. Thats less than 3 per carry.

Start me some of that, huh?
 
Originally posted by rbaggie:
Born, you think Hazell/Shoop have something against him personally?
They probably wanted to avoid relying only on seniors while throwing some bones to their own recruits, so Green got a little work. They even neglected "the fastest man in college football" for a good part of the season.

We'll miss those three.
 
Originally posted by nat100:


Originally posted by Born Boiler:

One game against one crappy opponent? When did Cottom have 32 carries against anyone? He had one carry as a senior.

Again, reality is lost on you, ass.
You dont read well do you princess ? Lead blocking was poor. Also, his big YPC from his sophomore year came from the EMU game where he had 2 carries for 95 yards. The other 11 games he had 42 carries for 106 yards. Thats less than 3 per carry.

Start me some of that, huh?
His sophomore year was 209 yards on 23 carries for a 9.1 average, playing 13 games.

Now explain your inability to read. Or tell north from south.
 
I will just hang up and wait for your answer at a later time.
 
Originally posted by Born Boiler:
Originally posted by nat100:


Originally posted by Born Boiler:

One game against one crappy opponent? When did Cottom have 32 carries against anyone? He had one carry as a senior.

Again, reality is lost on you, ass.
You dont read well do you princess ? Lead blocking was poor. Also, his big YPC from his sophomore year came from the EMU game where he had 2 carries for 95 yards. The other 11 games he had 42 carries for 106 yards. Thats less than 3 per carry.

Start me some of that, huh?
His sophomore year was 209 yards on 23 carries for a 9.1 average, playing 13 games.

Now explain your inability to read. Or tell north from south.
My bad, my math was off. 30 carries for 114 in non EMU games. 3.8 YPC if you remove the outlier. Awesome huh?

He had 1 great game that year. His 3.4 as a junior was more in line with his abilities. You going to comment on his blocking abilities (which was the point of the entire thread), or just completely miss that one?
 
Originally posted by nat100:


Originally posted by Born Boiler:

Originally posted by nat100:



Originally posted by Born Boiler:


One game against one crappy opponent? When did Cottom have 32 carries against anyone? He had one carry as a senior.

Again, reality is lost on you, ass.
You dont read well do you princess ? Lead blocking was poor. Also, his big YPC from his sophomore year came from the EMU game where he had 2 carries for 95 yards. The other 11 games he had 42 carries for 106 yards. Thats less than 3 per carry.

Start me some of that, huh?
His sophomore year was 209 yards on 23 carries for a 9.1 average, playing 13 games.

Now explain your inability to read. Or tell north from south.
My bad, my math was off. 30 carries for 114 in non EMU games. 3.8 YPC if you remove the outlier. Awesome huh?

He had 1 great game that year. His 3.4 as a junior was more in line with his abilities. You going to comment on his blocking abilities (which was the point of the entire thread), or just completely miss that one?
Bad again! He had 23 carries for his soph year, meaning, even if you take away his longest run of 87 yards, he still averaged 5.5 yards per run for the season. And he had no yards lost rushing, which is the key point.

Frankly, a backup back's blocking ability wasn't the biggest issue, not when we have a coaching staff that comes in advocating a physical running attack and then benches a 260-pounder in favor of munchkins.
 
Two things.

1) Youre right about the carries.
2) It doesnt tell you something when a guy who is that big cant find a place in a physical offense as either a blocking back or a short yardage player. Staff wanted him to be a FB and he missed a lot of blocks.

Also, where did most of his yards come as a freshman?

I get the frustration with this staff's usage of players, but this isnt one of the ones that frustrates me. Neither does Dolapo. If you want to complain about how they handled Monteroso, or Phillips, or Hart, id buy it. Not with BC.
 
Originally posted by nat100:
Two things.

1) Youre right about the carries.
2) It doesnt tell you something when a guy who is that big cant find a place in a physical offense as either a blocking back or a short yardage player. Staff wanted him to be a FB and he missed a lot of blocks.

Also, where did most of his yards come as a freshman?

I get the frustration with this staff's usage of players, but this isnt one of the ones that frustrates me. Neither does Dolapo. If you want to complain about how they handled Monteroso, or Phillips, or Hart, id buy it. Not with BC.
What did they do wrong with Monteroso?

Disclaimer: I still think he's a great prospect at safety.

That said, it's hard to know if a kid can actually catch during in game action until you put him IN the game. I think his performance in the Nebraska game this year is one of the worst i've ever seen from a Purdue WR.
 
Originally posted by pboiler18:
Originally posted by nat100:
Two things.

1) Youre right about the carries.
2) It doesnt tell you something when a guy who is that big cant find a place in a physical offense as either a blocking back or a short yardage player. Staff wanted him to be a FB and he missed a lot of blocks.

Also, where did most of his yards come as a freshman?

I get the frustration with this staff's usage of players, but this isnt one of the ones that frustrates me. Neither does Dolapo. If you want to complain about how they handled Monteroso, or Phillips, or Hart, id buy it. Not with BC.
What did they do wrong with Monteroso?

Disclaimer: I still think he's a great prospect at safety.

That said, it's hard to know if a kid can actually catch during in game action until you put him IN the game. I think his performance in the Nebraska game this year is one of the worst i've ever seen from a Purdue WR.

Yanking his redshirt two years in a row for minimal playing time.
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