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Purdue's team in 2015-16 is very similar to Kentucky's 38-1 team in 2014-15. Partially because the backup point guards for both teams are midget spark plugs. But it goes deeper. The overall athleticism, size, and depth is very comparable. Here is a position-by-position breakdown:

PG: Harrison (better scoring) vs. Hill (better defense)
SG: Harrison (better shooting) vs. Davis (better everything else)
SF: Lyles vs. Vince (potentially better everything)
PF: Willie (much better D) vs. Bigge (much better all around O)
C: Towns (better offense) vs. AJ (better defense)

2PG: Ulis (much better shooting) vs. PJ (potentially better everything else)
2SG: Booker (slightly better shooting) vs. Kendall (better everything else)
2F: No one vs. Basil (potentially really, really, really good)
2PF: Lee vs. Jacquil
C: Darkari vs. Haas

Kentucky in 2014-15 was the most overrated team in history. Their legend was built around the fact they had early season blowout victories against Kansas and UCLA, two teams that were both in complete rebuilding mode, and both easily dispatched by double digits in the Tournament. No one noticed that UK was losing by 5 at home to Buffalo at halftime and tied at home at halftime with Texas who was missing their star point guard, Isiah Taylor. No one also noticed those 6 SEC games that Kentucky won by 8 points or less. Keep in mind this is a conference that had several non-conference losses to mid-majors and had no team besides Kentucky reach the Sweet 16. Kentucky was finally found out in the Tournament, struggling with Cincinnati in the 2nd round, escaping by 2 points against Notre Dame in Elite 8, and being pretty much controlled throughout in their loss to Wisconsin in the Final Four.

Is it a compliment to compare Purdue to a team I just destroyed for a paragraph? That overrated Kentucky team was still able to reach the Final Four on the strength of its size, athleticism, and quality depth. Purdue can match that size, athleticism, and quality depth plus boast superior intangibles, since UK had no Seniors in their rotation and Purdue has 3. Purdue will murder some overrated teams in 2015-16. Florida comes to mind. The B1G is the toughest conference this year, not the 6th toughest like the SEC was last year, so just don't expect an undefeated regular season. Do expect a Final Four.
 
I love the enthusiasm, and would absolutely love this if it is true, but that team has 6 players drafted. 4 in the top 13. Purdue might have 1 maybe 2 first rounders, let alone the number one player in the draft. There is a ton of potential with this purdue team, but I think we need to pump the brakes a little. Yes Kentucky made it to the final four with elite size, strength, and athleticism. Purdue could be very good, but they are not to the elite level that Kentucky was last year. With that being said, go prove me wrong! I would absolutely love it.
 
FinallyABoilerFinal4 said:
Purdue's team in 2015-16 is very similar to Kentucky's 38-1 team in 2014-15. Partially because the backup point guards for both teams are midget spark plugs. But it goes deeper. The overall athleticism, size, and depth is very comparable. Here is a position-by-position breakdown:

PG: Harrison (better scoring) vs. Hill (better defense)
SG: Harrison (better shooting) vs. Davis (better everything else)
SF: Lyles vs. Vince (potentially better everything)
PF: Willie (much better D) vs. Bigge (much better all around O)
C: Towns (better offense) vs. AJ (better defense)

2PG: Ulis (much better shooting) vs. PJ (potentially better everything else)
2SG: Booker (slightly better shooting) vs. Kendall (better everything else)
2F: No one vs. Basil (potentially really, really, really good)
2PF: Lee vs. Jacquil
C: Darkari vs. Haas

Kentucky in 2014-15 was the most overrated team in history. Their legend was built around the fact they had early season blowout victories against Kansas and UCLA, two teams that were both in complete rebuilding mode, and both easily dispatched by double digits in the Tournament. No one noticed that UK was losing by 5 at home to Buffalo at halftime and tied at home at halftime with Texas who was missing their star point guard, Isiah Taylor. No one also noticed those 6 SEC games that Kentucky won by 8 points or less. Keep in mind this is a conference that had several non-conference losses to mid-majors and had no team besides Kentucky reach the Sweet 16. Kentucky was finally found out in the Tournament, struggling with Cincinnati in the 2nd round, escaping by 2 points against Notre Dame in Elite 8, and being pretty much controlled throughout in their loss to Wisconsin in the Final Four.

Is it a compliment to compare Purdue to a team I just destroyed for a paragraph? That overrated Kentucky team was still able to reach the Final Four on the strength of its size, athleticism, and quality depth. Purdue can match that size, athleticism, and quality depth plus boast superior intangibles, since UK had no Seniors in their rotation and Purdue has 3. Purdue will murder some overrated teams in 2015-16. Florida comes to mind. The B1G is the toughest conference this year, not the 6th toughest like the SEC was last year, so just don't expect an undefeated regular season. Do expect a Final Four.
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Notre Dame had 1 player drafted in the Top 40 picks. They should've beaten UK. The NBA draft has very little to do with a player's college effectiveness. It's based on a player's perceived potential to athletically dominate. It places little or no emphasis on a player's experience, intelligence, and skill. Purdue easily has last year's UK team trumped in those first two categories. Couple that with the comparable size and athleticism like I've already mentioned and it's easy to see Purdue's potential is at least on par with that UK team's.
 
FinallyABoilerFinal4 said:
Notre Dame had 1 player drafted in the Top 40 picks. They should've beaten UK. The NBA draft has very little to do with a player's college effectiveness. It's based on a player's perceived potential to athletically dominate. It places little or no emphasis on a player's experience, intelligence, and skill. Purdue easily has last year's UK team trumped in those first two categories. Couple that with the comparable size and athleticism like I've already mentioned and it's easy to see Purdue's potential is at least on par with that UK team's.
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Are you Matt18Jones from the national board?
 
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There is no comparison between the 2 teams. That Kentucky team was good, really good. They lost 1 game the whole season. We aren't on their level. We aren't even close.
We could be good this year but a lot would have to happen or fall in place for us to reach the FF.
 
choptalk said:
There is no comparison between the 2 teams. That Kentucky team was good, really good. They lost 1 game the whole season. We aren't on their level. We aren't even close.
We could be good this year but a lot would have to happen or fall in place for us to reach the FF.
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Kentucky had an incredibly easy schedule last year. They didn't play any of the other #1 seeds during the regular season and only had one game against any of the Top 3 seeds. They played in the conference with the 6th best RPI. As the #1 overall seed, they had a cake walk to the Elite 8. If you focus on their record with that schedule, you're ignoring reality. They weren't anywhere close to one of the all-time great teams.

So comparing Purdue to that Kentucky team is half talking up Purdue and half talking down Kentucky. The Cincinnati team that Purdue should've beaten last year battled toe-to-toe with Kentucky for the most of the game in the next round. Meaning Purdue wasn't too far away from Kentucky last year. No one is questioning that Purdue is substantially better this year.
 
Think of the mental edge Purdue has over that Kentucky team. Kentucky's players were handed minutes. Not every player. Dominique Hawkins and Derek Willis are really good players who didn't even sniff the court. But if you were wearing that McD's All-American badge, you got a seat in the platoon.

No player on Purdue is guaranteed minutes. Hammons, arguably the best player on the team, has made comments this offseason about how he knows a Freshman could steal his minutes. How much harder would you push yourself everyday when you're trying to earn something?

Kentucky's players were showered with praise. People told them they were the best team ever. They were cocky. Purdue isn't anyone's preseason #1 this year. They're not even Top 25 in some places. They have a chip on their shoulder. They want to earn respect. They know they have to take it. They'll come out looking like early Mike Tyson.
 
I would rather be compared to Notre Dame of last year than Kentucky. Notre Dame was a very good team last year, and very balanced. Maybe its also because I just don't like Kentucky
 
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I would rather be compared to Notre Dame of last year than Kentucky. Notre Dame was a very good team last year, and very balanced. Maybe its also because I just don't like Kentucky
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Notre Dame was an excellent team, no question. Wins over Michigan State, Duke, North Carolina, Louisville, and Wichita State and a narrow loss to Kentucky. They don't compare to Purdue, though. ND's back up center was 6'5". Purdue's is 7'2".

That Notre Dame team got by almost solely on teamwork, toughness, and intelligence. They didn't have elite size and raw talent. They were also only 6 deep. That recipe only works if everything goes right for you. Remember, in the 2nd game once Duke had figured them out, ND was losing 43-13 at one point. Also, little Butler, a team equally built on teamwork, toughness, and intelligence, had a chance at the winning shot in regulation against ND in the 2nd round of the Tournament. No one can blow out Purdue this year. Purdue has much better size, raw talent, and depth than that ND team. The extra year to develop has allowed the Boilers to close the gap on ND's teamwork, toughness, and intelligence, too.
 
FinallyABoilerFinal4 said:
Purdue's team in 2015-16 is very similar to Kentucky's 38-1 team in 2014-15. Partially because the backup point guards for both teams are midget spark plugs. But it goes deeper. The overall athleticism, size, and depth is very comparable. Here is a position-by-position breakdown:

PG: Harrison (better scoring) vs. Hill (better defense)
SG: Harrison (better shooting) vs. Davis (better everything else)
SF: Lyles vs. Vince (potentially better everything)
PF: Willie (much better D) vs. Bigge (much better all around O)
C: Towns (better offense) vs. AJ (better defense)

2PG: Ulis (much better shooting) vs. PJ (potentially better everything else)
2SG: Booker (slightly better shooting) vs. Kendall (better everything else)
2F: No one vs. Basil (potentially really, really, really good)
2PF: Lee vs. Jacquil
C: Darkari vs. Haas

Kentucky in 2014-15 was the most overrated team in history. Their legend was built around the fact they had early season blowout victories against Kansas and UCLA, two teams that were both in complete rebuilding mode, and both easily dispatched by double digits in the Tournament. No one noticed that UK was losing by 5 at home to Buffalo at halftime and tied at home at halftime with Texas who was missing their star point guard, Isiah Taylor. No one also noticed those 6 SEC games that Kentucky won by 8 points or less. Keep in mind this is a conference that had several non-conference losses to mid-majors and had no team besides Kentucky reach the Sweet 16. Kentucky was finally found out in the Tournament, struggling with Cincinnati in the 2nd round, escaping by 2 points against Notre Dame in Elite 8, and being pretty much controlled throughout in their loss to Wisconsin in the Final Four.

Is it a compliment to compare Purdue to a team I just destroyed for a paragraph? That overrated Kentucky team was still able to reach the Final Four on the strength of its size, athleticism, and quality depth. Purdue can match that size, athleticism, and quality depth plus boast superior intangibles, since UK had no Seniors in their rotation and Purdue has 3. Purdue will murder some overrated teams in 2015-16. Florida comes to mind. The B1G is the toughest conference this year, not the 6th toughest like the SEC was last year, so just don't expect an undefeated regular season. Do expect a Final Four.
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Wow, this will be a fun year. The Purdue board has declared this team the equal of UK's 38-1 team of last year. I hope Painter can coach this much talent. IMO, IU and Purdue are similar, with purdue having the edge. Purdue fanboard obviously feels this team is borderline unbeatable, and now I am nervous.
 
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jimmygoiu said:
Wow, this will be a fun year. The Purdue board has declared this team the equal of UK's 38-1 team of last year. I hope Painter can coach this much talent. IMO, IU and Purdue are similar, with purdue having the edge. Purdue fanboard obviously feels this team is borderline unbeatable, and now I am nervous.
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If you believe FinallyABoilerFinal4 is a real Purdue fan, I have a bridge to sell you.
 
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Wow, this will be a fun year. The Purdue board has declared this team the equal of UK's 38-1 team of last year. I hope Painter can coach this much talent. IMO, IU and Purdue are similar, with purdue having the edge. Purdue fanboard obviously feels this team is borderline unbeatable, and now I am nervous.
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So one nitwit troll who may or may not be a Purdue fan is "The Purdue board"? Should I go to Peegs and find an idiotic post from SNU or someone else so I can claim "The IU board" is stupid?
 
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Wow, this will be a fun year. The Purdue board has declared this team the equal of UK's 38-1 team of last year. I hope Painter can coach this much talent. IMO, IU and Purdue are similar, with purdue having the edge. Purdue fanboard obviously feels this team is borderline unbeatable, and now I am nervous.
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One thing will never change.The iu fans who obsess over Purdue will come over here, start threads, and then talk about them as if they were Purdue fans posting them.

Dishonest or stupid? I think we know the answer to that question.
 
Purdue and Kentucky had a common opponent last year: Missouri: Kentucky won their home and away with the Tigers by an average of 22.5 and Purdue won by 21 on a neutral court. Purdue wasn't as good as Kentucky last year. But they weren't very far off when they played up to their potential.
 
purdue4sure said:
One thing will never change.The iu fans who obsess over Purdue will come over here, start threads, and then talk about them as if they were Purdue fans posting them.

Dishonest or stupid? I think we know the answer to that question.
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Loosier fans are dishonestly stupid!!!
 
Would not be the slightest bit surprised if you ip checked this poster against Snu and found out it's actually Snu.
 
Matt18Jones said:
Would not be the slightest bit surprised if you ip checked this poster against Snu and found out it's actually Snu.
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It's hard to say. He is obviously the village idiot, so he matches the description. But he comes from a village of idiots, so it could be anyone. Including crean.
 
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FinallyABoilerFinal4 said:
Notre Dame had 1 player drafted in the Top 40 picks. They should've beaten UK. The NBA draft has very little to do with a player's college effectiveness. It's based on a player's perceived potential to athletically dominate. It places little or no emphasis on a player's experience, intelligence, and skill. Purdue easily has last year's UK team trumped in those first two categories. Couple that with the comparable size and athleticism like I've already mentioned and it's easy to see Purdue's potential is at least on par with that UK team's.
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They also have arguably the best PG in the country in Jackson this year and Auguste is first round talent, too. They aren't even close to what UK had last year.
 
purdue4sure said:
One thing will never change.The iu fans who obsess over Purdue will come over here, start threads, and then talk about them as if they were Purdue fans posting them.

Dishonest or stupid? I think we know the answer to that question.
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I miss you guys.
 
40 points to NC A&T? That's why I created this thread. I thought Purdue could hold teams under 40 like UK did last year. I don't care if arguably your best defender doesn't play. You can't hold this team under 40 my expectations go from 38-0 to fingers crossed they get an N.I.T. bid.
 
FinallyABoilerFinal4 said:
40 points to NC A&T? That's why I created this thread. I thought Purdue could hold teams under 40 like UK did last year. I don't care if arguably your best defender doesn't play. You can't hold this team under 40 my expectations go from 38-0 to fingers crossed they get an N.I.T. bid.
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You have argued with yourself throughout this thread. No reason to stop now.
 
FinallyABoilerFinal4 said:
Notre Dame had 1 player drafted in the Top 40 picks. They should've beaten UK. The NBA draft has very little to do with a player's college effectiveness. It's based on a player's perceived potential to athletically dominate. It places little or no emphasis on a player's experience, intelligence, and skill. Purdue easily has last year's UK team trumped in those first two categories. Couple that with the comparable size and athleticism like I've already mentioned and it's easy to see Purdue's potential is at least on par with that UK team's.
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Did ND beat UK last year? No they did not so there is no should've.
 
heytherehoodoo said:
Did ND beat UK last year? No they did not so there is no should've.
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2-point loss on a neutral court when you have the ball with a chance to win on the last possession. The difference between winning and losing in that situation is less than 1%.

If the point of your pointless comment was to make Kentucky seem greater, they did lose by 7 the very next week. If you were attempting to make ND look weaker, they had 3 combined victories last year over Duke and Michigan State, who were both in the Final Four. Please don't make pointless points in my thread. There are many others to choose from.
 
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