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Purdue in contact w/ Tyger Campbell

He is good friends with Jeremiah Tilmon at Mizzo - I realize they played at LaLum together but not sure they have room.
 
I’m not sure we should be touching LaLum right now.
It raises questions, but I think that each kid should be checked out on his own merits. I am sure that Coach Painter will be doing his due diligence, especially given the recent revelations.

I suppose all of these recruits will need to get cleared by the NCAA, like Swanigan was, before being declared eligible. It should get very interesting.
 
I would echo the sentiments about La lum. Tyger was a hard commit to DePaul which seemed a really strange commit at the time. Tilmon was a commit to Illinois, and then de-committed, and took a really long time deciding before committing to mizzou after porter committed there. Epperson was all set to be an early commitment to Purdue, and then backed out on signing day and said he needed more time to evaluate his recruiting and would wait until the second period before signing. and bowen took forever to sign.

And we all know painter's track record of NOT signing recruits from La lum.

there seems to be a culture about La lum. I won't accuse La lum of anything. But there are a lot of red flags surrounding many of its players and how they sign with schools. and why do athletes go to la lum?
 
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I would echo the sentiments about La lum. Tyger was a hard commit to DePaul which seemed a really strange commit at the time. Tilmon was a commit to Illinois, and then de-committed, and took a really long time deciding before committing to mizzou after porter committed there. Epperson was all set to be an early commitment to Purdue, and then backed out on signing day and said he needed more time to evaluate his recruiting and would wait until the second period before signing. and bowen took forever to sign.

And we all know painter's track record of NOT signing recruits from La lum.

there seems to be a culture about La lum. I won't accuse La lum of anything. But there are a lot of red flags surrounding many of its players and how they sign with schools. and why do athletes go to la lum?
What you explain tells me there was a bit of a chain of events here that a player was paid and then told another player and so on down the ladder.
 
Raphael Davis went to La Lum so there are good situations to be had over there. I'll agree though that Campbell's situation raises an eyebrow. But, I'm sure Painter wouldn't involve himself if shady stuff was going on. He never wins those kinds of battles anyway.
 
If Painter is running a clean program as we assume he is, then there is nothing to worry about. He is going to tell this recruit that we don't skirt the rules here. The kid and his family can choose to accept those conditions or look elsewhere. Nothing to be concerned about, unless you think it puts Purdue at risk of losing him later if something is dug up about his time at La Lum. Even then the risk is probably similar to a transfer or serious injury.
 
I am not sold on the fact that we are pursuing Tyger Campbell. I think we are all in on Isaiah and just wait a year for our pure point guard to arrive. Provided Carsen doesn't jump to the NBA after this year, I think we can do a pretty good job of distributing the ball with Eastern, Hunter, Edwards, Sasha and Cline in 2018/2019.
 
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No he was not ours at any point in time.

Tilmon decommitted to Illinois because they fired Groce and would have been stupid to not to.

I agree with your broader point that something seems questionable about La Lum.


I'll rephrase about Epperson. Towards the end of the early signing period, we were recruiting both Epperson and Haarms. it appeared Purdue would have their choice of the two players. At that stage, Epperson had 3-5 offers including one from Purdue. The offer from Purdue was by far his best offer. but several days before the early signing day, he stated he decided he would not sign early and would wait and see what other offers might come his way before committing. he received guidance from somebody not to sign early. Where that guidance came from, I don't know. But it came from somebody. it wasn't about money, but it was more about let's increase your value and we'll be able to obtain a lot more offers for you.

Epperson played the year at la lum, and did receive a lot more offers and eventually signed with Creighton .

there just seems something about the culture of la lum . it's as if the school acts as a sports agent for its students. i'm not saying any player received any money. but the school was able to showcase their players, and it's almost a given every player who attends la lum will receive a scholarship from somewhere.
 
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I am not sold on the fact that we are pursuing Tyger Campbell. I think we are all in on Isaiah and just wait a year for our pure point guard to arrive. Provided Carsen doesn't jump to the NBA after this year, I think we can do a pretty good job of distributing the ball with Eastern, Hunter, Edwards, Sasha and Cline in 2018/2019.
Apparently Purdue is still talking to him unless the quotes in the article are fabricated.

Campbell is a composite 0.9755 recruit per 247, #12 PG in his class. He would be Purdue's highest rated recruit since Biggie (neck and neck with Eastern).
 
I wonder if things have really gone south since 2012 with Ray Davis and Jay Simpson.
Just an opinion, LaLum has become a big time basketball factory since Ray and Jay left. They are sponsored by Nike and get some elite talent to attend the school. In light of the recent events, who's to say there isn't some funny business going on between prep schools, college, agents etc.

I also think they got a new HC who wasn't a big fan of Painter's - perhaps conflicting personalities. Which makes sense considering how many people on the messages board hate Painter

 
I am not sold on the fact that we are pursuing Tyger Campbell. I think we are all in on Isaiah and just wait a year for our pure point guard to arrive. Provided Carsen doesn't jump to the NBA after this year, I think we can do a pretty good job of distributing the ball with Eastern, Hunter, Edwards, Sasha and Cline in 2018/2019.
Let me be very clear Nojel Eastern is a pure point guard he has played the position since he transitioned from playing 3/4 the 6th grade were his trainer to this date started working with him on everything you need to no about the the position bcuz he was a PG. don't look at his size and be confused bcuz he stands 6"7 at 225 pounds that he isn't a pure PG. he thinks like a PG pass like a PG make the team around him better like a PG a feel for the game like a PG and a floor leader like a PG what do you call that. The luxury of having a PG that size he can and will play other positions all 4 to be exact so bcuz a player his 6 feet tall doesn't make you a PG but how you are as a leader and everything I just described of my son is why the NBA is looking at him now. Painter recruited my son to play that position alone with PJ but also no how he will cause matchup problems playing him at the 2/3 with smaller guards guarding on the block he will be hard to guard. His favorite player is chris Paul bcuz he is a true PG. you will see what I'm talking about soon enough.
 
Totally agree. Nojel Eastern is our PG of the future. There is no inconsistency however, with bringing in PJ's younger brother because they are two years apart. Isiah will get valuable minutes off the bench as an underclassman, and will be ready to start his junior year when Nojel graduates....if Nojel stays all 4 years that is. Nojel has the potential to declare early

Is 6'7 his true height? 6'7 and 225 is massive for a PG....even Shaun Livingston and Penny and Ron Harper (who were about that height) had a playing weight 20-30 pounds lighter. If he develops his shot, Nojel may revolutionize that PG position

FYI, there has only been one triple-double in the history of Purdue basketball (#1 NBA draft pick Joe Barry Carroll did it in 1977). If Nojel owns the PG position, he may be the second to do it :)


Let me be very clear Nojel Eastern is a pure point guard he has played the position since he transitioned from playing 3/4 the 6th grade were his trainer to this date started working with him on everything you need to no about the the position bcuz he was a PG. don't look at his size and be confused bcuz he stands 6"7 at 225 pounds that he isn't a pure PG. he thinks like a PG pass like a PG make the team around him better like a PG a feel for the game like a PG and a floor leader like a PG what do you call that. The luxury of having a PG that size he can and will play other positions all 4 to be exact so bcuz a player his 6 feet tall doesn't make you a PG but how you are as a leader and everything I just described of my son is why the NBA is looking at him now. Painter recruited my son to play that position alone with PJ but also no how he will cause matchup problems playing him at the 2/3 with smaller guards guarding on the block he will be hard to guard. His favorite player is chris Paul bcuz he is a true PG. you will see what I'm talking about soon enough.
 
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I am not sold on the fact that we are pursuing Tyger Campbell. I think we are all in on Isaiah and just wait a year for our pure point guard to arrive. Provided Carsen doesn't jump to the NBA after this year, I think we can do a pretty good job of distributing the ball with Eastern, Hunter, Edwards, Sasha and Cline in 2018/2019.

Agree. If Catsen leaves, we would need another scoring option at guard and I don't think signing Tyger would affect Isaiah Thompson. Isaiah is more like Carsen than his brother playsttle-wise. He can get his own bucket. Tyger is used to playing with talent and is a good facilitator.

If Painter wants Tyger, he better do his due diligence and make sure he is clean and willing to buy in. If there is any inkling of shady business, walk. The DePaul commitment and then decomitment is concerning. It could be as innocent as he thought he could bring all his friends and failed, and he would rather go to a big school.

If Missouri has room, I think he goes there. If Zo can't make a final four w that roster, he never will.

Purdue is his best current option that he holds an offer from. They are losing two guards and he would be unbelievable beside Carsen. If we lose Carsen to the draft, Tyger starts day 1 if he truly buys in. Tyger could also help land KBJ.

My biggest concern is losing Isaiah by taking Tyger. If Carsen comes back, I would rather wait a year and bring Isaiah. He has a good connection with top Indiana talent which will help lure in other talent.

If Tyger is clean and fully willing to buy in to Painter's system, give him a serious look. Otherwise, no thanks. Not worth it with all the current stuff going on.

I admit being biased towards Isaiah though. PJ went to the same HS as my brother and I live really close to where Isaiah goes. The Thompson family is awesome and I truly think Purdue could use four more years of Thompson!!
 
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Totally agree. Nojel Eastern is our PG of the future. There is no inconsistency however, with bringing in PJ's younger brother because they are two years apart. Isiah will get valuable minutes off the bench as an underclassman, and will be ready to start his junior year when Nojel graduates....if Nojel stays all 4 years that is. Nojel has the potential to declare early

Is 6'7 his true height? 6'7 and 225 is massive for a PG....even Shaun Livingston and Penny and Ron Harper (who were about that height) had a playing weight 20-30 pounds lighter. If he develops his shot, Nojel may revolutionize that PG position

FYI, there has only been one triple-double in the history of Purdue basketball (#1 NBA draft pick Joe Barry Carroll did it in 1977). If Nojel owns the PG position, he may be the second to do it :)
I'm not exaggerating his weight or height there is a video of the team receiving their rings from biggie and you will see my son standing next to Vince who is 6"8 almost no difference in height. You absolutely right bringing in another guard who can handle the ball is necessary I just wanted you to no he is a PG and you right he get is shot right he won't be at purdue long. you tell me how many 6"7 PG at 225 pounds that fast and athletic can not only play PG but can also play multiple positions and guard multiple positions is in college today probably not many. My son put in many hours working on his entire game and he ready to play on the big stage and I believe he will help this team along with the other freshman help this team go deep into the NCAA tournament. If you can play NBA will find you this I no.
 
I can be happy and satisfied with Nojel as our point guard for the future. but does that mean Painter shouldn't recruit Tyger ? Hunter was also listed as a PG/SG.

Painter has 2 scholarships left to give. he made it clear t o castleton, he was no longer recruiting nay big men.

if Langford changed his mind and wanted to come to Purdue , would we turn him away? if king or Embury had second thoughts , would we say sorry, you lose!

We have two scholarships left to give. i'd hate to give those scholarships out to 2* role players just to keep our current projected starters happy. I believe Nojel would welcome the recruitment of Tyger and the competition he would bring , To be great, you have to have confidence in yourself.

nothing pro or con about Isaiah, but he's not a part of this year's recruitment class. Tyger and Langford would be great additions. Maybe C Edwards and Nojel will both leave early. if Langford signed, he'd be long gone before Isiah arrived.
 
Agree. If Catsen leaves, we would need another scoring option at guard and I don't think signing Tyger would affect Isaiah Thompson. Isaiah is more like Carsen than his brother playsttle-wise. He can get his own bucket. Tyger is used to playing with talent and is a good facilitator.

If Painter wants Tyger, he better do his due diligence and make sure he is clean and willing to buy in. If there is any inkling of shady business, walk. The DePaul commitment and then decomitment is concerning. It could be as innocent as he thought he could bring all his friends and failed, and he would rather go to a big school.

If Missouri has room, I think he goes there. If Zo can't make a final four w that roster, he never will.

Purdue is his best current option that he holds an offer from. They are losing two guards and he would be unbelievable beside Carsen. If we lose Carsen to the draft, Tyger starts day 1 if he truly buys in. Tyger could also help land KBJ.

My biggest concern is losing Isaiah by taking Tyger. If Carsen comes back, I would rather wait a year and bring Isaiah. He has a good connection with top Indiana talent which will help lure in other talent.

If Tyger is clean and fully willing to buy in to Painter's system, give him a serious look. Otherwise, no thanks. Not worth it with all the current stuff going on.

I admit being biased towards Isaiah though. PJ went to the same HS as my brother and I live really close to where Isaiah goes. The Thompson family is awesome and I truly think Purdue could use four more years of Thompson!!
I definitely don't think Carsen is going to transfer, so we don't need to worry about having another scoring guard.
 
I can be happy and satisfied with Nojel as our point guard for the future. but does that mean Painter shouldn't recruit Tyger ? Hunter was also listed as a PG/SG.

Painter has 2 scholarships left to give. he made it clear t o castleton, he was no longer recruiting nay big men.

if Langford changed his mind and wanted to come to Purdue , would we turn him away? if king or Embury had second thoughts , would we say sorry, you lose!

We have two scholarships left to give. i'd hate to give those scholarships out to 2* role players just to keep our current projected starters happy. I believe Nojel would welcome the recruitment of Tyger and the competition he would bring , To be great, you have to have confidence in yourself.

nothing pro or con about Isaiah, but he's not a part of this year's recruitment class. Tyger and Langford would be great additions. Maybe C Edwards and Nojel will both leave early. if Langford signed, he'd be long gone before Isiah arrived.
My son came to purdue knowing how many guards were on the team. He had many other options of schools to choose from were he could of walk on team and started day one so welcoming tyger ,hunter or Thompson won't stop him from doing what he do. He competes and not scared of competition at all and do what PJ has done for him guided him and helps my son learn but also competes against PJ and all the other players to play and maybe start. I've always taught my son since he has been young bcuz you are younger doesn't mean you don't go at the older players neck in practice and he does. You all have no idea how good he is but in due time he will show what he can do
 
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and that is the dilemma. Purdue has finally come to a point where we have talented players as starters and talented back-ups at every position.

in order to stay successful, we need to continue to add talented players. We have 2 remaining scholarships to give. we could easily just book them and fill the holes with a walk-on. but if a talent player shows interest, to remain successful, you have to go after them.

And as Treed has said, painter is an honest coach. Tyger obviously has looked at Purdue's team. he knows Nojel , Edwards and hunter are here. he knows who Painter is recruiting in 2019. Tyger knows the path to the NBA is hard. he should know the path to starting at Purdue is just as hard. if Tyger wants to come to Purdue and painter is interested in having him, I'm all for it.

I look at Isaiah much like I looked at Phinisee. and Carmody. he'd be a great addition, but if we lose out, there are plenty of other talented Pgs in the 2019 class.

We have 3 scholarships for 2019. if we signed Tyger, would we use a 2019 scholarship for a PG? maybe, maybe not.
 
You don't have to worry about him going to the NBA. The NBA doesn't have a lot of room for 6' SGs. Carsen will be here all 4 years and that's fine by me.
He might be on the small size for a shooting guard but that kid is tough and can score the ball and can shoot that thang so I wouldn't Put nothing past carsen if he puts his mind to it. Don't doubt him he has the mindset to destroy you and the confidence to match. NBA will look closely at a 6"7 PG that has the versatility to play and guard multiple positions.
 
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He might be on the small size for a shooting guard but that kid is tough and can score the ball and can shoot that thang so I wouldn't Put nothing past carsen if he puts his mind to it. Don't doubt him he has the mindset to destroy you and the confidence to match. NBA will look closely at a 6"7 PG that has the versatility to play and guard multiple positions.
I didn't say anything about your son. He probably has the most NBA potential on the team. However, there are no 6' SGs in the NBA. There are only 2 or 3 players in the entire league 6' or shorter. They are all PGs. IMO Carsen' s ceiling is Yogi Ferrel. Great college career followed by going undrafted but potentially making a roster. My point was that he won't be leaving after this year.
 
I didn't say anything about your son. He probably has the most NBA potential on the team. However, there are no 6' SGs in the NBA. There are only 2 or 3 players in the entire league 6' or shorter. They are all PGs. IMO Carsen' s ceiling is Yogi Ferrel. Great college career followed by going undrafted but potentially making a roster. My point was that he won't be leaving after this year.
That's opinion well taken never said you said anything about my son I just referenced it probably meant for another poster but I have an opinion and IMO would not put nothing past a kid who is determined no matter his size whether he left this year or not he is a warrior.
 
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my thoughts are if Purdue makes it to the final 4, there could be a lot of surprises as to who stays and who the NBA courts. Although there will probably be a lot of players no longer in the NCAA that will be applying for an early entry hardship rule.
 
and that is the dilemma. Purdue has finally come to a point where we have talented players as starters and talented back-ups at every position.

in order to stay successful, we need to continue to add talented players. We have 2 remaining scholarships to give. we could easily just book them and fill the holes with a walk-on. but if a talent player shows interest, to remain successful, you have to go after them.

And as Treed has said, painter is an honest coach. Tyger obviously has looked at Purdue's team. he knows Nojel , Edwards and hunter are here. he knows who Painter is recruiting in 2019. Tyger knows the path to the NBA is hard. he should know the path to starting at Purdue is just as hard. if Tyger wants to come to Purdue and painter is interested in having him, I'm all for it.

I look at Isaiah much like I looked at Phinisee. and Carmody. he'd be a great addition, but if we lose out, there are plenty of other talented Pgs in the 2019 class.

We have 3 scholarships for 2019. if we signed Tyger, would we use a 2019 scholarship for a PG? maybe, maybe not.

Isaiah is family. It's more than just missing out. He has been up to Purdue for countless games. There is zero % chance we miss out on him. As a freshman, he was rated in the top 100. Last year he was just outside the top 100. Now they have him outside the top 200. He is being slept on, which is honestly a good thing. It gives him that chip on his shoulder. He already has all the talent in the world, but he is getting outside motivation to be even better.

As far as talent goes, sure, Painter could find somebody else, but Painter is all about the team as a family. I will be more dissapointed to miss on Isaiah than any other player in the '19 class. I am so happy he got that offer. He is going to visit schools and be recruited, but he better end up a Boiler!

To answer your question, if we take Tyger, there are three spots left. Painter will need another guard and a wing. He likes big versitile type players, but isiah is a scorer, like Carsen. I still think Painter would sign him.

KBJ, Thompson, and Jackson-Davis would be my ideal class at this point based on need and being local folks. KBJ will be interesting to see. Painter was just in to see him the other day, and will be on him hard. Prying him away from MSU will be difficult though. Jackson-Davis is still in play for Purdue. We develop big men and get them drafted. Archie doesn't have that same track record yet and IU could get dragged into the scandal with Bryant. MSU offered him, but he seems most interested in IU and Purdue based on Twitter history. Thompson only has mid major offers outside of Purdue for now, but he will be visiting Butler and some other P5 schools.
 
I'm not exaggerating his weight or height there is a video of the team receiving their rings from biggie and you will see my son standing next to Vince who is 6"8 almost no difference in height. You absolutely right bringing in another guard who can handle the ball is necessary I just wanted you to no he is a PG and you right he get is shot right he won't be at purdue long. you tell me how many 6"7 PG at 225 pounds that fast and athletic can not only play PG but can also play multiple positions and guard multiple positions is in college today probably not many. My son put in many hours working on his entire game and he ready to play on the big stage and I believe he will help this team along with the other freshman help this team go deep into the NCAA tournament. If you can play NBA will find you this I no.

It is pretty obvious what CMP wants to do is find guys that can play a combo guard type role. Although Nojel is probably a pure PG, his size and athletic ability allows him to really play the 1-4 and defend that as well. If he can develop a consistent outside shot (+40%), think Vince with better handles and an ability to defend the 1-4. That's the type of player that'll make a lot of money in the NBA one day.
 
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It is pretty obvious what CMP wants to do is find guys that can play a combo guard type role. Although Nojel is probably a pure PG, his size and athletic ability allows him to really play the 1-4 and defend that as well. If he can develop a consistent outside shot (+40%), think Vince with better handles and an ability to defend the 1-4. That's the type of player that'll make a lot of money in the NBA one day.

I believe it's obvious that Painter wanted to add a combo guard and he did so. He now has Edwards, Eastern and Hunter as combo guards. however, he has 2 scholarships left for the 2018 class, and based on his cancelation of visits and offers to big men, those 2 scholarships are likely to go to another guard and a wing. if it goes to a guard, will it go to a combo guard? maybe, maybe not.

Is Sasha or Cline considered as a combo guard? is Langford considered as a combo guard? Was Embury? or Carmody? I'm asking because I don't know. I don't believe every guard painter targets is a combo guard! I don't believe painter's philosoph y has bee n to go after players that can play multiple positions. rather, it was by coincidence. Painter goes after talented players. and because they are talented, they can play multiple positions. it's sort of like drafting a shortstop. you want him to play shortstop, but he can probably play third or second. I have read numerous times Eastern was not recruited as a combo guard, but rather as a PG.

Painter is supposedly recruiting Tyger, who is more a PG than combo guard. is Isiah a combo or point guard? So I'm not so sure Painter is in love with recruiting combo guards. He just recruits talented players.
 
Raphael Davis went to La Lum so there are good situations to be had over there. I'll agree though that Campbell's situation raises an eyebrow. But, I'm sure Painter wouldn't involve himself if shady stuff was going on. He never wins those kinds of battles anyway.
Marcius also signed from LaLum.
 
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I believe it's obvious that Painter wanted to add a combo guard and he did so. He now has Edwards, Eastern and Hunter as combo guards. however, he has 2 scholarships left for the 2018 class, and based on his cancelation of visits and offers to big men, those 2 scholarships are likely to go to another guard and a wing. if it goes to a guard, will it go to a combo guard? maybe, maybe not.

Is Sasha or Cline considered as a combo guard? is Langford considered as a combo guard? Was Embury? or Carmody? I'm asking because I don't know. I don't believe every guard painter targets is a combo guard! I don't believe painter's philosoph y has bee n to go after players that can play multiple positions. rather, it was by coincidence. Painter goes after talented players. and because they are talented, they can play multiple positions. it's sort of like drafting a shortstop. you want him to play shortstop, but he can probably play third or second. I have read numerous times Eastern was not recruited as a combo guard, but rather as a PG.

Painter is supposedly recruiting Tyger, who is more a PG than combo guard. is Isiah a combo or point guard? So I'm not so sure Painter is in love with recruiting combo guards. He just recruits talented players.

CMP had stated he wants to go toward a more position less type of team and that appears to be starting with his 1-3 players being more combo-guard oriented. The fact that it appears the future backcourt now stands at Carsen, Eastern, Wheeler likely in 2019...that's an almost absurd amount of athleticism in those thrrr postions. Add in a guy like Haarms and Taylor/Ewing and it will be a five that really puts pressure on teams. The issue becomes trying to develop the outside shot at Carsen is streaky and appears Eastern and Wheeler are WIP.

Adding a player like Tyger or another combo guard who has known high capabilities beyond the arc would push the riches at the 1-3 positions to immense heights.

2019:
Carsen
Nojel
Potential in Ramey/Campbell
Haarms
Taylor

Hunter
Sasha
Wheeler
Ewing
Dowouna/Williams

This could be the most athletically gifted team in the entire conference and likely a top 5 team in the country when it comes to athleticism.
 
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CMP had stated he wants to go toward a more position less type of team and that appears to be starting with his 1-3 players being more combo-guard oriented. The fact that it appears the future backcourt now stands at Carsen, Eastern, Wheeler likely in 2019...that's an almost absurd amount of athleticism in those thrrr postions. Add in a guy like Haarms and Taylor/Ewing and it will be a five that really puts pressure on teams. The issue becomes trying to develop the outside shot at Carsen is streaky and appears Eastern and Wheeler are WIP.

Adding a player like Tyger or another combo guard who has known high capabilities beyond the arc would push the riches at the 1-3 positions to immense heights.

2019:
Carsen
Nojel
Potential in Ramey/Campbell
Haarms
Taylor

Hunter
Sasha
Wheeler
Ewing
Dowouna/Williams

This could be the most athletically gifted team in the entire conference and likely a top 5 team in the country when it comes to athleticism.


What I'm saying is he already has a bunch of players who can play multiple positions. he might go with best available for these last two slots, and not worry about adding another combo oriented multiple position player. Dow is a center. Would he play PF? Doubtful. it was said Haarms can play both center and PF. Will he? the same was said of Taylor and Ewing. Will Taylor play any PF? Will Ewing play any center?

it's nice to have players who can play multiple positions. But I doubt painter's philosophy is to recruit only players who can play multiple positions. They may have that ability, but that's only because of their talent level.

Painter recruited Phinisee. that tells me painter also recruits players who are not combo players. Admittedly, I doubt phinisee was plan A.
 
Let me be very clear Nojel Eastern is a pure point guard he has played the position since he transitioned from playing 3/4 the 6th grade were his trainer to this date started working with him on everything you need to no about the the position bcuz he was a PG. don't look at his size and be confused bcuz he stands 6"7 at 225 pounds that he isn't a pure PG. he thinks like a PG pass like a PG make the team around him better like a PG a feel for the game like a PG and a floor leader like a PG what do you call that. The luxury of having a PG that size he can and will play other positions all 4 to be exact so bcuz a player his 6 feet tall doesn't make you a PG but how you are as a leader and everything I just described of my son is why the NBA is looking at him now. Painter recruited my son to play that position alone with PJ but also no how he will cause matchup problems playing him at the 2/3 with smaller guards guarding on the block he will be hard to guard. His favorite player is chris Paul bcuz he is a true PG. you will see what I'm talking about soon enough.

I sincerely apologize if my previous message came across as though we didn't have a pure PG in 2018/2019 - I meant no disrespect; it was more a lack of information on my part. With some of the new guys I haven't had a chance to really see where their strengths are yet. I only got to watch a small sample of the WU games from last month to draw some conclusions. Before I made the post (because I wasn't sure) I checked Rivals and 247 Sports and both actually listed Nojel as a shooting guard and so that was a bit misleading. Really looking forward to seeing what Nojel can do this year distributing the ball and jump starting the offense. In addition to his athleticism, he seems like he has a great head on his shoulders.

I also believe that many of our other guards - Edwards and others are pretty adept at finding the open man at the right time, so therefore my comment was more along the lines of why I wasn't sold on recruiting another PG at this time. Good luck to you and your son this year! I think all Boilermakers are really looking forward to seeing what these guys can do this year! Boiler Up!
 
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I believe it's obvious that Painter wanted to add a combo guard and he did so. He now has Edwards, Eastern and Hunter as combo guards. however, he has 2 scholarships left for the 2018 class, and based on his cancelation of visits and offers to big men, those 2 scholarships are likely to go to another guard and a wing. if it goes to a guard, will it go to a combo guard? maybe, maybe not.

Is Sasha or Cline considered as a combo guard? is Langford considered as a combo guard? Was Embury? or Carmody? I'm asking because I don't know. I don't believe every guard painter targets is a combo guard! I don't believe painter's philosoph y has bee n to go after players that can play multiple positions. rather, it was by coincidence. Painter goes after talented players. and because they are talented, they can play multiple positions. it's sort of like drafting a shortstop. you want him to play shortstop, but he can probably play third or second. I have read numerous times Eastern was not recruited as a combo guard, but rather as a PG.

Painter is supposedly recruiting Tyger, who is more a PG than combo guard. is Isiah a combo or point guard? So I'm not so sure Painter is in love with recruiting combo guards. He just recruits talented players.
I believe you hear combination guard frequently associated with Purdue because a guard with the ability to get a team into offensive flow to initiate offense or more importantly to reinitiate offense when it breaks down is necessary in a motion offense. he must also be effective without the ball in his hands because in motion he will not dominate the ball. If you can add perimeter scoring ability and getting to the rim effectively you have the holy grail. I do think Painter looks for combos. He also looks for guys that may lean more to one or the other that he can teach to be both.
PJ was a good floor leader. He added a consistent 3 pointer and will drive more this season than in the past.
Carsen is a scorer who is adding point skills.
Nojel is a slasher and passer and either has (we have only seen a little bit) or will develop a 3 point shot.
Painter looks for combos but he will take one or the other and develop the part they are weak at.
 
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I sincerely apologize if my previous message came across as though we didn't have a pure PG in 2018/2019 - I meant no disrespect; it was more a lack of information on my part. With some of the new guys I haven't had a chance to really see where their strengths are yet. I only got to watch a small sample of the WU games from last month to draw some conclusions. Before I made the post (because I wasn't sure) I checked Rivals and 247 Sports and both actually listed Nojel as a shooting guard and so that was a bit misleading. Really looking forward to seeing what Nojel can do this year distributing the ball and jump starting the offense. In addition to his athleticism, he seems like he has a great head on his shoulders.

I also believe that many of our other guards - Edwards and others are pretty adept at finding the open man at the right time, so therefore my comment was more along the lines of why I wasn't sold on recruiting another PG at this time. Good luck to you and your son this year! I think all Boilermakers are really looking forward to seeing what these guys can do this year! Boiler Up!
It's all good but I would advise you not to read into what some sites list a player it really means nothing. Many sites list my son PG ,SG or even small forward all bcuz of his size but what a kid might on a site doesn't mean that is how the coach gonna use him. I'll say this my son depending on matchups and game situations he can be used playing multiple positions and that is what painter has the luxury of doing when a kid can play multiple positions but painter recruited my son to also play point guard as well bcuz that's how he thinks the game and he is a pass 1st guard that get his teammates involved and sets his teammates up to score. Google some of his highlights you will see just how versatile he is and how well he passes the ball and how he handles the ball. Don't let the composites site suggest that is the position he plays only people who knows what position he will play are the staff on purdue and he will be playing probably 3 positions this season. Remember this he is only 18 and he will make his fair share of mistakes this season but what I no of my son he is a basketball player that will definitely help purdue this season. I'm just looking forward to the season this team got all the pieces to be really really good.
 
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