Checking most predictions by Sports Organizations, Purdue is picked to win 3 games and finish last or next to last in the West Division. Do you believe that will will be the case, or IYO will Purdue be bowl bound?
Purdue getting no love at all...
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Imo most of those that do predictions look at the last few years records and perhaps incoming players and call it a day.
That being said I also don’t think 8 wins is a realistic expectation either.
I believe we are better than 4-8 and 2-6 (3-3 if we aren’t robbed) record from the last couple years indicates. Massive injuries and a strange Covid year made us look bad. Imo without injuries we could have won 7ish games two years ago and with a full schedule I believe we would have been a bowl team last year.
That being said, I believe 3 wins is probably our floor and 8 wins our ceiling this year. I don’t believe either is likely and feel we will win somewhere between 5-7 games. I am predicting 6 wins and a bowl game for us.
Well, the past two years, we've kinda made these "experts" look a little foolish. So I'm sure that has something to do with it.
I know Northwestern was picked to finish last in the west last year and they won it. And this is how wagering establishments stay in business and make a profit.
Bowl bound 6-6 with an improved Defense. Keep fingers crossed that the OL stays healthy.
This year will be very interestng. Covid threw a wrinkle in last years season and if you are basing this year on anything that happened last year then you are a fool. IU was ranked in the top 10 for God sakes.
But last year we were better than 2-4. We played NW tough and then essentially won the Minnesota game. Wheels fell off the last 2 games but Barnes getting tossed had something to do with that.
But last year we were better than 2-4. We played NW tough and then essentially won the Minnesota game. Wheels fell off the last 2 games but Barnes getting tossed had something to do with that.
Either are possible, and some here would be happy with those. I'd say either would be a failure. JMHO for a coach who's one of the 10 highest paid in the game and 3rd in the B10. But then, I expect wins and major bowl games from that kind of salary.
I hope that we start getting some love from the refs, that's where it counts.
You donated to the JPC to help fund that salary?
I’d be very happy with 5-7 so long as we were starting to see recruits developed into players.
While I often disagree with the crowd that thinks you’re a piece of crap if rot don’t think we are going to the rose Joan, I disagree With your assessment as well for a few key reasons.
> big ten is stronger top to bottom than it’s ever been. This team might go 8-4 against the 08 schedule
> brohm has had a lot derailed by injuries
> diaco was a terrible hire. Brohm can be a good coach in the long run.. who made a terrible DC hire that set this team back a year.
2022 will be the year when brohm will have arrived. We lose a lot qualitatively in George, but what we lose quantitatively vs what will come of age, plus the schedule .. makes for a season where brohm might walk backwards to 7 wins
Lol yeah everyone can predict us at 0-12 if we stop getting these ridiculous calls and road referreeing like we are playing at notre dame in 1987.. when we are hosting a big ten non power
Huge difference between 3 wins and 6 wins. One is progress, the other is not.
I've not seen any legit prognostications of 3 wins.
Sorry. You are correct. I got it right at 3-3, but somehow messed up the overall record.
Wasnt being critical. I’m still pissed about the Minny Game!!!
Hire Les Miles!
j/k
a .500 record (i.e., bowl eligible) would not be a "failure" in any objective view.
His pay is irrelevant to the conversation. Purdue did what Purdue needed to do at the time, and it was d@mn refreshing to see them step up to the table.
Otherwise, pay a coach $1/year and consider it a bargain when they provide Les Miles results.
Don't care about predictions. Only care what happens on the field.
As I have been saying for a number of years now, I’m 71. On almost any subject in any field if you ask 10 so-called “experts” you get 10 different answers. Now you have to decide which of the 10 really knows what he is talking about. So in the end it still comes down to your own good judgment. I believe in the individual not the collective.
Go find 100 answers and I’m not sure there are more than a handful saying better than 5-7.
ps I’m jealous that you got to see Purdue be as good as they will probably never be in my lifetime, in the 60s
It was great, but the problem then was they never ended up being rated #1.
It was nice to be at the Rose bowl and see them beat USC.
Super jealous. I’d let someone drop a bowling ball on my foot to be ranked #1 in the nation for one week..
I don’t know if any of the homers here now were here in 04 when we were ranked in the top ten, but the general consensus was “well, enjoy it now, because Purdue is rarely this good,” and if you replied “who says we can’t be this good all the time” you’d get mocked.
I wish I would have listened .. I never thought the Orton fumble would be the apex
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So if we were ranked #1 in the preseason poll and then lost every game, you'd be OK with a bowling ball dropped on your foot?
No man I mean like during the season if we did enough to be number one like as good as those teams were
Sure there is.
it's clear we've addressed many areas of concern. Coaching upgrades. Depth issues. What's more, there haven't been many games where we haven't been competitive.
There are many reasons to look at this season as a season of progress, with the possibility of bowl eligibility.
Now they need to execute on the field.
Just asking, for a friend..
won’t it become clear that they’ve addressed many areas of concern WHEN they execute on the field?
case in point. Who was more highly touted coming in? Drew Brees or Brandon Hance.
if this was 2004 davek would be berating you asking who has actually proven what and he’d have 1000 naysayers high fiving him
up 5 bro
The point is, I think that many areas of concern will be address gradually as this year unfolds, but unless northwestern and Nebraska crapped their pants, it needed to be addressed already to be a 7-5 team. Which is why I see 7-5 next year, because it will be a team where questions were already answered going into camp. By guys who have proven it on the actual field
We (well some of us) believe we have addressed those things. And maybe we have. But at this point from an outside perspective we really aren't worth that deep of an analysis until we actually win some games.
Ahhh.... I understand what you're saying now.
True... in spite of (most of) them getting paid for their analysis.
Every program addresses their shortcomings during the off-season but, for those that are unproven, the scoreboard determines whether any of those fixes worked. Analysts who get paid for their expertise / opinions almost always understand that far better than fans.
Another reason for tempering the W/L predictions is the free Covid year that was granted to players. As a result, most of the experienced teams from last year remain as MORE experienced teams this year, whereas there would normally be turnover. Purdue was a young team last year and was going to be a more experienced this year with or without the extra year, but remains less experienced than its opponents because of it.
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My Dad was at Purdue in '67, but, did not have the financial means by which to attend the Rose Bowl...he said that he would go "the next time" that they played in it...not thinking that it would be almost 35 years later. I did not make the same mistake...we went together in '01, and, I have always been glad that we went, but, in hindsight, had I made the same decision, I likely would have never had a chance to see Purdue in a Rose Bowl...my brothers passed on going in '01 and regret it for sure.
Purdue was in the discussion for being top ranked in '04, and, may have achieved it had they won that Wisconsin game...to your point though, who knew then that was the apex?
Imagine if you went into a coma on the eve of the Wisconsin game in 2004.. then woke up 17 years later and wanted to know who won the big game and how many Rose Bowls did we go to.
I admit that there is probably nobody more skeptical than me with regard to the defense and improvements there...almost impossible to be worse, but, in that they were so bad, more than just "improvements" that need to have occurred on that side of the ball, and, I am, as I said, skeptical. The scheme is better (again, impossible to not be)...but, I have concerns about personnel, and, a lack of difference-makers on that side of the ball. I don't know how genuine the coaching upgrades are, aside of the fact that literally ANYBODY is an upgrade over Diaco...but, the notion of 3 co-coordinators does not instill great confidence (at least in me)...and, it is not as if we have guys that are household/national names. I like all 3 of the guys and all 3 do have some history of success to at least have some reason for optimism, but, it still boils down to having guys that can make plays, stop the run and create turnovers, and, until I see it, I am going to remain skeptical (more so after last week's scrimmage where issues remained...many that were the same from last year).
I still am leery of the OL as well...like the defense, almost impossible to not be better, but, also like the defense, there is need for it to be MUCH improved for it to make a discernible difference...I see it as more possible and potentially likely there than I do on the other side of the ball, and, hopefully it is the case.
I just thought “hey we are ranked top ten so if we don’t have another Gardner, Johnson and koutouvides” on campus already well they are coming next year right? Cause that’s what we do now” 17 years later I’m not sure we’ve had three linebackers total who were that good ….
i realize they were on the 03 team.. linebacker was a weakness in 04 relative to 03.. and I was like “well with what we are doing I mean come on.” And then I think in one of the four losses the silver lining was a late evening post by Brian announcing that Kyle Williams was coming to Purdue …
And even in that loss to Wisconsin.. yeah orton fumbled but that’s like the Hartman thing where Alex Gonzalez spiked a double play ball. Orton .. a superstar to that point that season.. fumbled, but Kyle smith had a pass hit him right in the chest.
moral of the story I’ll enjoy the next time we are that good a lot
