PU vs Vermont Game Thread.....
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Set the all-time record and nice floater by Jon Oct.... I mean Johnny Hill.
I think it's safe to say that this game, in the grand scheme of things, will not really say much. Yes, our offense was great - but it was against Vermont, who lost by 20 and gave up 70 to Eastern Michigan. Our defense really wasn't that great. Overall, it was a "2nd game in 3 days" type of game. Purdue did what it needed to do, had some fun and won. Good enough for me.
At the very least. It shows we can make shots from deep.
We missed a ton of open shots last year and isn't that what many experts feel will be our weak point this year?
I agree on the defense but it's early and we are much better then this time last year and we became very good in January last season. When we add AJ I expect it to make a jump.
I don't know how many games we will shoot like this this session? But it has to help the confidence and of course probably made Snu pee himself at least a little bit.
I am gonna enjoy this season and look forward to is team improving each and every game. I think we may just run ten deep in many games and that doesn't worry me at all.
Whatever this is, it's nothing close to the way games are called in the NBA. If that is the NCAA's objective, they've failed miserably.
Part of the problem is that NBA players don't play with a lot of effort during the season - so it eliminates a lot of contact. You don't have that in college basketball.
Agreed, but it's important to remember who we're playing.
Our first 3 games last year:
Game One: Beat Samford 80-40. We shot 55%, 43% from 3. Samford shot 23% for the game and 15% from 3.
Game Two: Beat IUPUI 77-57. We shot 50%, 47% from 3. IUPUI shot 41%.
Game Three: Grambling 82-30 - a 50 point win! We shot 50%, 36% from 3.
So obviously those 3 games masked future issues.
Now, you can certainly take things away from the games we are playing. For example, we shot below 65% from the free throw line in all 3 games - certainly a precursor. But obviously free throw shooting doesn't really change depending on your opponent (maybe to the extent of who is shooting them, but that's about it).
So these wins are great - and there are certainly things to take away from them. And it sure beats close games and/or losses.
Not perfect, but I do like what I'm seeing thus far....and one has to remember that PU is playing without its "All Big Ten" caliber center. Not too shabby, even against lesser competition. Boiler Up!!
I agree. But hitting open shots is something to take away from it.
We missed a bunch last year and they are going to be there no matter who we play with our front line.
Freethrows and defense were spots I see need work on but once again we played two games in three days and it's early still.
Game was sloppy but I think Painter wants the team shooting a lot of 3's early on so they have the confidence they will need later on and there will be plenty of film for other teams to question whether or not they want to go with that strategy.
So far I like where we are as I think we will continue to improve.
Agree with this. This was a little bit of CMP sending a message. "Hey, if you zone us or pack it in, I will take the leashes off these shooters, and you don't want that!" Today they delivered.
Totally disagree with the idea that NBA players don't play hard. Are there back to back games where players aren't as into the game as they should be? Sure, but the idea that players don't play during the regular season is an old, and mostly false idea.
If teams take games off in the Western conference this season, they'll risk missing the playoffs.
I don't watch a lot of NBA, but I watch enough to know that the intensity of NBA regular season games and college games are not comparable.
It's the crowds where I notice the difference. You can't compare the enthusiasm that college students give to that of a NBA crowd. Effort wise, for the most part, NBA players give just as much effort most nights.
That's just a ridiculous statement to make. You clearly don't watch NBA basketball. I love college, but the "nobody tries in the NBA until the playoffs" is such an overused, untrue statement.
Each has its positives and negatives.
The NBA, like every other major sport, markets to the masses, which happens to include plenty of unintelligent fans.
The quality (in terms of overall ability and skill on display) of the NBA game is far superior to college, but I love the college game as well. I like that it is more of a "struggle" in college ball to score and such, but to say that the "NBA blows" is ignorant on your part, sorry.
For you to call an opinion ignorant is ignorant. Clearly an ideal NBA fan.
BTW, the NBA blows.
Haha nah, it's clear you don't watch it; you just throw out the "NBA blows" card with nothing to back up your opinion. I'll refer to your opinion as ignorant so long as you continue to provide no detail as to why you think it "blows." Have a nice day, you cliche, uninformed, NBA hater.
Why would I spend my free time watching something I hate? That would be foolish. I am embarrassed to admit that I used to watch it when I was young and foolish. Then I gave it up as I grew up and became an adult. I don't have to justify to you why it blows but I still see highlights that are good for a laugh such as these.
http://nba.nbcsports.com/2015/11/08/kemba-walker-gets-away-with-absurd-travel-video/
http://www.cbssports.com/video/play...-augustin-gets-away-with-ridiculous-traveling
I'm guessing dribbling isn't one of the skills you were trumpeting earlier as it seem to be somewhat optional in today's NBA.
Also, the fact that they are even considering changing the rules about fouling because some players can't hit foul shots says a ton. I guess free throw shooting is another one of those skills you aren't talking about.
Basically, the NBA is a league built for genius fans who are still excited that a 6'9" athlete can dunk a basketball on a 10 foot rim or that a guard can go coast to coast in a couple seconds even if he doesn't necessarily have to dribble the ball to do so. They've changed the rules, or selectively not enforced them might be a better way to put it, to de-emphasize skill and slant the entire game towards athleticism. The fact that you think the NBA is some showcase of skill is laughable and makes me wonder if you even understand what it is that you are watching. There are some very good, skillful players (Curry, for example, is amazing) but they get lost in the rest of the muck known as the NBA.
You bring up a lot of good points. I hate that every single rule isn't emphasized (i.e. traveling), and I absolutely hate that there has been a trend towards athleticism. However, I think we are seeing plenty of players with skill sets that we have never seen: Anthony Davis, Steph Curry, Karl Anthony-Towns, Paul Millsap, Draymond Green...these are all tremendously versatile and skilled players, whose games are not all predicated on athleticism...and I think that trend will only continue. When have we seen this many big men shoot it like they can? The 2010s is a very, very different era than the 2000s NBA; you might want to tune in more often to see the difference.
Have you watched Anthony Davis, Marc Gasol, Kawhi Leonard, Klay Thompson, Curry, James Harden (who does try to sell far too many calls, imo, but still a fantastic talent and skillset)? The talent these guys possess is undeniable and fun to watch, if you appreciate talent. Do I wish the rules were enforced more strictly? Sure. But, to say that the NBA is not filled with talented (talent/skill in the NBA is wayyyy greater than in college), skilled players is ridiculous.
I agree, some of the non-calls are egregious, but I'm sure I can find plenty of horrible non-travel calls in college too (less frequently, sure).
Also, you include your dig at me by saying, "Then I gave it up as I grew up and became an adult." ...not very "adult-like," is it? Or am I too childish to understand?
Not every NBA fan is a blubbering idiot who is obsessed with dunks and fast-breaks. Maybe, just maybe, you'll evolve from your "I'm older and therefore I am right" approach to one that is more observant and open-minded. Try not watching highlights; try watching the actual games. I'm very aware of the NBA shortcomings, but there is plenty of talent, strategy, and skill to enjoy.
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Yep. They are trying to make the college game more like the NBA unfortunately. I still don't see it too often in college which I watch extensively. You went back a couple of seasons for this clip. Both of my examples were from this young NBA season. I also remember seeing ridiculous clip of someone from last year (Wade maybe?) on twitter.
Just reading headlines.
Cavaliers' LeBron James: 'We give a half-ass effort sometimes'
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on...ron-james-we-give-a-half-ass-effort-sometimes
"Just reading headlines" seems to be right in line with your viewership. Zero context. Zero understanding.
You criticize the "unintelligent" masses, yet you are doing exactly what they do...putting stock in headlines and such.
Sure, you've now proved that not every NBA player gives 100% for every second of an 82 game season. Fortunately, this is the only league of sports where this happens (that was sarcasm, in case you weren't aware).
You criticize the "unintelligent" masses, yet you are doing exactly what they do...putting stock in headlines and such.
Sure, you've now proved that not every NBA player gives 100% for every second of an 82 game season. Fortunately, this is the only league of sports where this happens (that was sarcasm, in case you weren't aware).
I assumed Lebron James admitting that his teams don't always give good effort seemed pretty official to me. Didn't think I needed to review the tape to verify or refute the claim. I guess if you disagree you can take it up with him?
Sorry that it blew your first point out of the water and all you have left is, "Well . . . . . . you don't watch the games!" I haven't had the flu in a couple of years either but I feel safe in my opinion that I still wouldn't like it. If you are in the group of mindless fools that enjoy the NBA that's fine. We all probably have some embarrassing tv viewing habits that we shouldn't be proud of. Just don't go around trying to convince others that they should like it.
My intention was never to convince you to "like" it. Liking and accepting the fact that there is greater skill and talent on display in the NBA are two very different things. Apparently you can't discern the difference between the two, which isn't surprising.
Your only argument is the qualitative "effort" stance...once you find a way to measure effort, and can validate that the NBA is the only league in which players don't give 100% effort for every single second of every single game, then I'll put some stock into your points.
Actually I never even mentioned the effort thing as a reason I dislike it. I just saw a headline that completely blew your earlier claim about their effort out of the water and I presented it here. There are plenty of other reasons I dislike the NBA. I wouldn't watch game 7 of the NBA Finals where, I presume, they would be giving their best effort.
For one, you posting a headline of a player saying his team didn't give maximum effort hardly qualifies as blowing my claim out of the water. You can find a player or coach claiming that in just about every single league.
I don't particularly "like" the 'new' NHL (another league which has had some pretty significant rule-changes put in place over the last decade to 15 years), yet I'm not going to call the current NHL fans "mindless fools" for being fans of such a league, simply because I'm not on board with all of the instituted changes and/or rule interpretations.
You don't like the NBA; I do, and also happen to enjoy the hell out of college bball. Sure, the NBA has its flaws, but so does every damn league.
Boiler up, and have a nice day.
You see, this is what happens when you don't take a hard look at the film.
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