I think we could be contacting more kids, spending more time in high school gyms, and doing a better job of impressing recruits. More money means a larger net. We currently recruit primarily in the midwest. IU is recruiting the east coast, and out west. Why do you think we limit ourselves? If we want to compete with the other blue bloods, we are going to have to have a wider and more noticible presence.
And this is after Painter negotiated a big uptick in recruiting resources during the Mizzou flirtation. Sheesh!Originally posted by mathboy:
I think we could be contacting more kids, spending more time in high school gyms, and doing a better job of impressing recruits. More money means a larger net. We currently recruit primarily in the midwest. IU is recruiting the east coast, and out west. Why do you think we limit ourselves? If we want to compete with the other blue bloods, we are going to have to have a wider and more noticible presence.
There are kids all over the couontry who could help out basketball program, yest they never get a sniff from us because we are too financialy constrained.
I have felt for a long time that the recruiting budget constrained all of our major sports. The result was a severe lack of talent across all 3 of the big time programs at the same time. MBB, WBB, and FB have all bottomed out from years of constrained recruiting budgets. Many of you want to blame the coaches, and sometimes that balme is deserved, but sometimes it is the fault of the university and the budgetary constraints they have imposed on the coaches.
Well fricken said. This needs to be stickied.Originally posted by mathboy:
This confirms what I have thought to be the case for some time. We are underspending on recruiting, big time. You guys wonder why we can't bring in burger boys? No 5* recruits? No wonder! WTF are we doing?
We spend 3x less than IU. I know OSU, UM, and MSU all outspend us on basketball recruiting. You get what you pay for, period. Matt Painter does the best he can with the resources he is given, but this shows us to be penny-wise and pouind-foolish. Until oour spend on this simple issue increases, we need to cut Painter some slack.
He got that big uptick and is STILL not financed accordingly. That says a lot right there ....Originally posted by Chuchumutha:
And this is after Painter negotiated a big uptick in recruiting resources during the Mizzou flirtation. Sheesh!Originally posted by mathboy:
I think we could be contacting more kids, spending more time in high school gyms, and doing a better job of impressing recruits. More money means a larger net. We currently recruit primarily in the midwest. IU is recruiting the east coast, and out west. Why do you think we limit ourselves? If we want to compete with the other blue bloods, we are going to have to have a wider and more noticible presence.
There are kids all over the couontry who could help out basketball program, yest they never get a sniff from us because we are too financialy constrained.
I have felt for a long time that the recruiting budget constrained all of our major sports. The result was a severe lack of talent across all 3 of the big time programs at the same time. MBB, WBB, and FB have all bottomed out from years of constrained recruiting budgets. Many of you want to blame the coaches, and sometimes that balme is deserved, but sometimes it is the fault of the university and the budgetary constraints they have imposed on the coaches.
thanks for the answer. That does help to make sense of it.Originally posted by mathboy:
I think we could be contacting more kids, spending more time in high school gyms, and doing a better job of impressing recruits. More money means a larger net. We currently recruit primarily in the midwest. IU is recruiting the east coast, and out west. Why do you think we limit ourselves? If we want to compete with the other blue bloods, we are going to have to have a wider and more noticible presence.
There are kids all over the couontry who could help out basketball program, yest they never get a sniff from us because we are too financialy constrained.
I have felt for a long time that the recruiting budget constrained all of our major sports. The result was a severe lack of talent across all 3 of the big time programs at the same time. MBB, WBB, and FB have all bottomed out from years of constrained recruiting budgets. Many of you want to blame the coaches, and sometimes that balme is deserved, but sometimes it is the fault of the university and the budgetary constraints they have imposed on the coaches.
If we get a bigger bang for the buck, think of what would happen if we did spend the extra money. You wouldn't think the the growth of each would entirely mimic each other, but more money would not do any harm. Have that same bang for the buck with more money and this could result in a much more successful program.
You make a good point, but I think your point is predicated on the fact that the spending constraints ultimately limited Purdue's desired recruiting activities. That may be true, but I think to really drive home the point, you'd need to know what the budget was and how much of that was consumed. If Painter's recruiting budget was $200k and Painter spent $197k as noted in the article, your argument is more convincing. But if the budget was $400k for recruiting and Painter spent $197k, then it's a lot harder sell that the AD and the resources are holding the staff back on recruiting. To spend less than the competition is one thing, but to be at your spend limit and be forced to pick and choose where to put your limited resources is entirely another.Originally posted by mathboy:
This confirms what I have thought to be the case for some time. We are underspending on recruiting, big time. You guys wonder why we can't bring in burger boys? No 5* recruits? No wonder! WTF are we doing?
We spend 3x less than IU. I know OSU, UM, and MSU all outspend us on basketball recruiting. You get what you pay for, period. Matt Painter does the best he can with the resources he is given, but this shows us to be penny-wise and pouind-foolish. Until oour spend on this simple issue increases, we need to cut Painter some slack.
Student activity fees (which I think you're referring to) don't necessarily go fully to athletic department. Supposing you're referring to IU's fee, I looked it up. It doesn't look like any of it is going to the athletic department actually, unless they've cleverly disguised it as a part of "recreational sports", but I believe that's the fitness center membership.
I suppose Painter using the Sunday coupons at Steak and Shake probably has a down side but the meals are cheaper when you do that. Morgan probably has a dictate out to all of the coaches to make sure they use them whenever possible.Originally posted by Sennsational1:
thanks for the answer. That does help to make sense of it.Originally posted by mathboy:
I think we could be contacting more kids, spending more time in high school gyms, and doing a better job of impressing recruits. More money means a larger net. We currently recruit primarily in the midwest. IU is recruiting the east coast, and out west. Why do you think we limit ourselves? If we want to compete with the other blue bloods, we are going to have to have a wider and more noticible presence.
There are kids all over the couontry who could help out basketball program, yest they never get a sniff from us because we are too financialy constrained.
I have felt for a long time that the recruiting budget constrained all of our major sports. The result was a severe lack of talent across all 3 of the big time programs at the same time. MBB, WBB, and FB have all bottomed out from years of constrained recruiting budgets. Many of you want to blame the coaches, and sometimes that balme is deserved, but sometimes it is the fault of the university and the budgetary constraints they have imposed on the coaches.
How does one "spend 3x less..."??!Originally posted by mathboy:
This confirms what I have thought to be the case for some time. We are underspending on recruiting, big time. You guys wonder why we can't bring in burger boys? No 5* recruits? No wonder! WTF are we doing?
We spend 3x less than IU. I know OSU, UM, and MSU all outspend us on basketball recruiting. You get what you pay for, period. Matt Painter does the best he can with the resources he is given, but this shows us to be penny-wise and pouind-foolish. Until oour spend on this simple issue increases, we need to cut Painter some slack.
How about saying we spend about one-third IU does for basketball recruiting?Originally posted by Purdue85:
How does one "spend 3x less..."??!Originally posted by mathboy:
This confirms what I have thought to be the case for some time. We are underspending on recruiting, big time. You guys wonder why we can't bring in burger boys? No 5* recruits? No wonder! WTF are we doing?
We spend 3x less than IU. I know OSU, UM, and MSU all outspend us on basketball recruiting. You get what you pay for, period. Matt Painter does the best he can with the resources he is given, but this shows us to be penny-wise and pouind-foolish. Until oour spend on this simple issue increases, we need to cut Painter some slack.
Wouldn't "...3x less..." be a negative number?
The records aren't just due to the players. In iu's case, the players are winning in spite of the coach. If Purdue had 2 or 3 elite level players, we would probably be looking at a B1G championship team.
