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You keep acting like white Europeans invented slavery. They did not.
If the white Europeans were so hell bent in enslaving black people, why did they even buy the black captives? Why didn't they just save the money and enslave them all?
I never gave any implications that white Europeans invented slavery. Slavery has been around for thousands of years. What I did say that white Europeans did invent racism based on the pseudoscience of measuring skulls of blacks and whites in order to determine intelligence. During this time the concept of races, white, black, and Asian, of humans is born. Again, this is around the 16 and 17 centuries.

Your last sentence is ridiculous.
 
Never mind, I found it. Not the first racist to work in government, but his job is minor.

In contrast, I recall a racist who served not in a minor job, but as president until Jan. 20 this year. I would wager that you voted for that racist.
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No, they're culpable, but had the labor been in the form of Chinese or Indians or (insert continent here), it wouldn't have made any difference. As 03 said, this was driven much more by economics than racism. Black Africans just happened to be the supply that met the demand at the time (mostly because it's a lot easier to sail from Europe to Africa than it is to Eastern Asia or India.) Look at a map....
Why didn’t the Europeans enslave European criminals? Much closer than Africa, don’t you think. Cheaper as they would not have to buy them. Then ship them over to the US.
 
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What you call whataboutism is simply pointing out your lib hypocrisy.

You did vote for the racist Joe Crow Biden, right? The president who called the gov of Maryland "boy", etc.
 
Why didn’t the Europeans enslave European criminals? Much closer than Africa, don’t you think. Cheaper as they would not have to buy them. Then ship them over to the US.
As a student of history, you already know all of this about the history of slavery.

 
They did. Debtors prisons, indentured servants, etc.
I know. But did not sustain for a full blown workforce for servitude like they did the Africans. Indenture servants were free after a set number of years. The Africans were slaves for life in most cases.
 
Why didn’t the Europeans enslave European criminals? Much closer than Africa, don’t you think. Cheaper as they would not have to buy them. Then ship them over to the US.
That's a legitimate question. I don't know how the criminal justice system in Europe operated in the 16-18th centuries. My guess was there probably wasn't enough supply to meet demand, Also, Africans had already set up a system of enslaving the defeated tribes that they captured, so there was already somewhat of a system in place, it then just become an economic exchange.
 
For fukks sake!!! They didn't have a demand for black slaves. They had a demand for slaves. The Africans supplied them with what they wanted/needed.
He obviously has been immersed in some connections we don't understand or could leap to that thought over teh chasm that has an infinite width. Trying to explain how slavery came about and still does or trying to show that it has went on for thousands of years and is currently going on with all races involved is met with a "yeah, but..."

I have no idea what he wants relative to slavery. We all have said it was wrong even if the mores' at the time possibly didn't.
 
If you are talking about the Africans selling their war captives to the slave traders yeah I know all about that. That never been a secret. Where have you been? The Boneman and I have been talking about this for 2 days now.
The point was that the white supremists in England abolished slavery but African countries continued to allow it. How can that be explained ?
 
The point was that the white supremists in England abolished slavery but African countries continued to allow it. How can that be explained ?
That's easy. The white supremacists in the US, the Caribbean, and South America did not obviously, and the demand for slaves obviously continued. They are the ones that continued to allow it. It's not hard.

Also, it's not a matter of the African countries allowing it. It's a matter of disposing of their enemy combatants. The ones that they didn't sell to the US and elsewhere, they tortured and killed. That's what victors in wars have been doing for thousands of years. Why would the Africans be any different?

The ancient Romans and other cultures enslaved enemy combatants. If they weren't tortured and killed they were forced into gladiator spectacles. These enslaved and the enslaved gladiators in ancient Rome were made up of people from all ethnicities from Africa to Asia to Europe. Compared to the transatlantic slave trade that focused mostly on the Africans.
 
Why didn’t the Europeans enslave European criminals? Much closer than Africa, don’t you think. Cheaper as they would not have to buy them. Then ship them over to the US.
Europeans largely stopped enslaving their own people due to a combination of factors including the rise of nation-states with more centralized power, the development of a relatively equal balance of power between European nations, the emergence of alternative labor systems like serfdom, and the growing influence of Christian values that viewed enslavement of fellow Christians as morally wrong, making it increasingly impractical to enslave people within their own societies.
 
Europeans largely stopped enslaving their own people due to a combination of factors including the rise of nation-states with more centralized power, the development of a relatively equal balance of power between European nations, the emergence of alternative labor systems like serfdom, and the growing influence of Christian values that viewed enslavement of fellow Christians as morally wrong, making it increasingly impractical to enslave people within their own societies.
First of all, Christian values says that enslaving ALL humans is morally wrong. But if the Europeans actually believed that it was wrong to enslave other Christians then you just proved my point. Plus the fact that white supremacy is in full swing, and enslaving mostly the Africans was a logical solution.
 
That's what victors in wars have been doing for thousands of years. Why would the Africans be any different?
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I guess the USA is unique. We helped develop Germany, France and Japan after WWII.
He!! we even gave Sanctuary Reservations to the Native Americans.
 
I guess the USA is unique. We helped develop Germany, France and Japan after WWII.
He!! we even gave Sanctuary Reservations to the Native Americans.
That's fine and dandy. But what does that have to do with the topics at hand?
 
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