Play D like ISU/Houston?

[JRKinn]

Is there any downside to playing the foul heavy playstyle of ISU/Houston this season when the difference between our 4th and 10th player is pretty small? Give Cox, Heide, Harris, and Colvin free range to go for the steal at any time, and give Berg and Jacobsen free range to always go for the block. Dare the refs to call a foul every time down the court. Keep the core 3 free of fould trouble, but all the rotation players could be aggressive every time down the court. They can't foul out all 4 of our guards, and Burgess and Furst can play if the bigs foul out.

What is everyone's thoughts on aggresive foul heavy D this year?

 

[Boiler Buck]

That might be the result at the 5.....just because of who is there, not by design due to inexperience or slowness.

The rest - we need the big 3 on the floor. Need Cox or Harris as 2nd ball handler. So no.

 

[slydog52]

That might be the result at the 5.....just because of who is there, not by design due to inexperience or slowness.

The rest - we need the big 3 on the floor. Need Cox or Harris as 2nd ball handler. So no.

Agree 100%, especially last nights game. Corpus Christi set the tone and bullied us on our home court. I know it was the first game, but did we look like Final Four material? With all the talent we have, we can go for steals, trap and even press. Jacobsen is an awesome shot blocker if we get beat. Turnovers were a problem. Half as many and we beat them by 30. Corpus Christi trapped Smith on every ball screen and we had no answer until Braden finally got serious at the end of the game and went to the hole and made some great assists at the rim.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

Is there any downside to playing the foul heavy playstyle of ISU/Houston this season when the difference between our 4th and 10th player is pretty small? Give Cox, Heide, Harris, and Colvin free range to go for the steal at any time, and give Berg and Jacobsen free range to always go for the block. Dare the refs to call a foul every time down the court. Keep the core 3 free of fould trouble, but all the rotation players could be aggressive every time down the court. They can't foul out all 4 of our guards, and Burgess and Furst can play if the bigs foul out.

What is everyone's thoughts on aggresive foul heavy D this year?

Purdue did play a more aggressive style in the first part of Painter’s career, but with some of the freedom of movement changes, that style became more difficult to play. Painter made a change in how he recruits really starting with the 2014 class with an emphasis on skill and character. I don’t really think that Purdue has the personnel at this point to play that style. Purdue has pretty good athleticism, but not like Houston which is built for aggressive defense. Purdue’s bigs, in general, are also better suited for drop coverage than the super aggressive Houston hedges that demand elite mobility.

 

[Schmedly_Whiplash]

Is there any downside to playing the foul heavy playstyle of ISU/Houston this season when the difference between our 4th and 10th player is pretty small? Give Cox, Heide, Harris, and Colvin free range to go for the steal at any time, and give Berg and Jacobsen free range to always go for the block. Dare the refs to call a foul every time down the court. Keep the core 3 free of fould trouble, but all the rotation players could be aggressive every time down the court. They can't foul out all 4 of our guards, and Burgess and Furst can play if the bigs foul out.

What is everyone's thoughts on aggresive foul heavy D this year?

Seems logical on the surface but Matt preaches Defense without Fouling. So seems antithetical to the rest of his coaching. ??
I think the biggest downside is giving them too many 'free' points putting them in 1 and 1's and 2 shot bonus's. And you're stopping the clock more often so affecting the flow of the game when many of us hope for a faster pace this year. ??

 

[Chi-Boiler]

Is there any downside to playing the foul heavy playstyle of ISU/Houston this season when the difference between our 4th and 10th player is pretty small? Give Cox, Heide, Harris, and Colvin free range to go for the steal at any time, and give Berg and Jacobsen free range to always go for the block. Dare the refs to call a foul every time down the court. Keep the core 3 free of fould trouble, but all the rotation players could be aggressive every time down the court. They can't foul out all 4 of our guards, and Burgess and Furst can play if the bigs foul out.

What is everyone's thoughts on aggresive foul heavy D this year?

I don't agree with changing a philosophy that has worked pretty well over the years.

 

[rgarlitz]

Is there any downside to playing the foul heavy playstyle of ISU/Houston this season when the difference between our 4th and 10th player is pretty small? Give Cox, Heide, Harris, and Colvin free range to go for the steal at any time, and give Berg and Jacobsen free range to always go for the block. Dare the refs to call a foul every time down the court. Keep the core 3 free of fould trouble, but all the rotation players could be aggressive every time down the court. They can't foul out all 4 of our guards, and Burgess and Furst can play if the bigs foul out.

What is everyone's thoughts on aggresive foul heavy D this year?

Won't that result in giving opponents a lot more free throws?

 

[Schmedly_Whiplash]

I do agree with it if some very good center is lighting us up. Time for OUR Hack a Shaq!

 

[lovelyblonde]

Agree 100%, especially last nights game. Corpus Christi set the tone and bullied us on our home court. I know it was the first game, but did we look like Final Four material? With all the talent we have, we can go for steals, trap and even press. Jacobsen is an awesome shot blocker if we get beat. Turnovers were a problem. Half as many and we beat them by 30. Corpus Christi trapped Smith on every ball screen and we had no answer until Braden finally got serious at the end of the game and went to the hole and made some great assists at the rim.

FIGURING it all out! We will be fine!

 

[qazplm]

The defense is going to be worse for awhile. I am more focused on on the offense getting better.

There's a ton of offensive talent out there so I think that's where this team wins games. Outscoring them more than holding them down.
At least in the early stages.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

The defense is going to be worse for awhile. I am more focused on on the offense getting better.

There's a ton of offensive talent out there so I think that's where this team wins games. Outscoring them more than holding them down.
At least in the early stages.

Yep. As fans, we’ve been spoiled in recent non-conference seasons recently and I think that this is a good year to have some patience as the players figure it out.

 

[JRKinn]

I don't agree with changing a philosophy that has worked pretty well over the years.

I mean we have changed our scheme almost every other year over our very successful run of the last ten years. Most of those changes have been on O to cater to our best players, but there is no reason we can't adjust our D based on our players as well.

 

[JRKinn]

Won't that result in giving opponents a lot more free throws?

Some yes, but the philosophy those teams that play this style have is that the turnovers created by this style plus keeping the other teams offense off rythme outweigh the number of free throws the other team gets. Also the refs rarely call even a majority of the fouls teams that play this style generate. If you run into a ref crew that is calling everything, you dial back the aggressiveness.

 

[Purdue79fan]

Painter continues to stress: D without fouling, Minimize Turnovers, and out rebound the other team is his "secret sauce". I for one would like to see the full court press used Painter's senior year when they took down a UConn team with 6 future pros. Of course that team had Cuonzo Martin and Glenn Robinson. Painter actually played very solid in that game.

Purdue at UConn, November 28, 1992

Clipping found in Journal and Courier published in Lafayette, Indiana on 11/29/1992. Purdue at UConn, November 28, 1992

www.newspapers.com

 

[JRKinn]

Seems logical on the surface but Matt preaches Defense without Fouling. So seems antithetical to the rest of his coaching. ??
I think the biggest downside is giving them too many 'free' points putting them in 1 and 1's and 2 shot bonus's. And you're stopping the clock more often so affecting the flow of the game when many of us hope for a faster pace this year. ??

I think this is actually the best argument against it. It would generate more transition points, but could really slow down the game and I think this team is built to run. Maybe just add a little press D (from Cox/Harris not Smith) and green light the swats to the mix instead of the ISU/UH half court buzzsaw.

 

[Roeder]

To do that Purdue would need 1 or 2 more true guards for depth and not as many centers IMO.

We simply can't afford to lose any of the 4 true guards to foul trouble by playing that aggressive. Painter would need to change his roster construction.