Painter isn't going to be fired, nor should he be
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First off, I said a mediocre coach, and we can get mediocrity back. 2nd, a 5 seed that gets beat in the first round is pretty mediocre. Would you say it was a really good year? Low, low, low standards and expectations around here.
No way he should be fired, for the following reasons:
I don't want Burke hiring a locker room attendant, let alone another head coach
The new AD has other fish to fry, with absolute failures as coaches in football, WBB, Baseball, etc.
Once the new AD is on board, let him set expectations with Painter and then follow through.
I'd say one game doesn't define an entire season and given that we were ranked 10th in the country in the last poll I would say that anyone who claims we are mediocre doesn't have a clue.
Can you read? I said "Painter is mediocre" and followed that up with "a 5 seed that gets beat in the first round is pretty mediocre". I think the regular season was pretty good, and even started a thread on it a day or 2 before the debacle Thursday. Again, if you can comprehend this Tom Coverdale, would you say it was a really good season? You were satisfied overall? Sorry, I'm probably asking too much for a response to the topic at hand.
We were not a mediocre basketball team. Period. End of story. Qualify it however you want by saying that you're just talking about the coach or whatever. You are proving my point that your opinion really can't be taken seriously by anyone who knows basketball.
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Painter is safe for the next two years. He'll ride this '14 class to two more tourneys. I, personally, would wait to see how he performs on this '17 class. If he whiffs, I'd start the back channel talks with potential candidates.
I'd be careful about that- approaching other coaches through back channels. It would probably turn off a lot of candidates; there is a sense of fraternity among coaches. Plus, they'd have to understand that if the AD is willing to do it to Painter (a reasonably successful coach), he or she would be willing to do it to them.
If/when it's time to make a change have a list of workable candidates ready, but it would be a mistake to even give the appearance of undercutting the current coach.
If/when it's time to make a change have a list of workable candidates ready, but it would be a mistake to even give the appearance of undercutting the current coach.
I'm not debating the core of your comments, but I do wonder what defines a "whiff?" And, is a "whiff" defined before the guys we do get ever play a game? My reason is that I have seen a lot of highly rated players not play well (LaBissiere) or not take their team to a great season (Cal this year) and I think most of the highly rated players that a lot are talking about that we should be getting are one-and-dones. I agree that we as a team need to play better in tourneys, we need to play differently to keep up with the times and to get those types of players who win close games, and that we need to get more of something out of the players we have .... that's what teams who go far do. On the other hand, I'm not sure anyone will know the answers to those questions on signing day for the 2017 class.
Hold on. You're saying we should have beat Florida and Duke? Am I reading your sarcasm correctly? We could have beat Kanas but sometimes you lose close games. And for the love of Mike would people stop acting like VCU was some kind of freak loss. We got our butts kicked but they did that to a lot of people on the way to the FF, including #1 Kansas.
We blew the game in the last two years of the dance and Painter is responsible, made some questionable moves that seem bad in hindsight. But we also had the same team for both games and from where I sit, this group has had serious problems with leadership on the floor in crunchtime. They caved too many times to put it all on the coach. And anybody who was paying attention knew this team was flawed without a PG and/or a player who could get his own shot. Painter has been saying as much all year.
We were not a mediocre basketball team. Period. End of story. Qualify it however you want by saying that you're just talking about the coach or whatever. You are proving my point that your opinion really can't be taken seriously by anyone who knows basketball.
We were not a mediocre basketball team. Period. End of story. Qualify it however you want by saying that you're just talking about the coach or whatever. You are proving my point that your opinion really can't be taken seriously by anyone who knows basketball.
We were not a mediocre basketball team. Period. End of story. Qualify it however you want by saying that you're just talking about the coach or whatever. You are proving my point that your opinion really can't be taken seriously by anyone who knows basketball.
We were not a mediocre basketball team. Period. End of story. Qualify it however you want by saying that you're just talking about the coach or whatever. You are proving my point that your opinion really can't be taken seriously by anyone who knows basketball.
With abundance of talent coming out of Indiana that Painter is targeting, I would think it would be pretty easy to measure his success. In general Painter is on almost exclusively highly rated recruits both close to home and nationally. If we see many of these recruits committing elsewhere and Painter start recruiting players that are not currently on his target list, I think we'll have a good indicator. Of course, we have to allow these kids to perform before passing judgement, but we have seen the results of subpar recruiting from 2009-11.
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