OT: Saddened by Montross' death!
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Yes - very sad to hear - was diagnosed just this past March with cancer. Prayers go out to his family.
wonder if it was Pancreatic, usually they give you 6 to 9 mos w/ that diagnosis. A guy I used to work with died at 53 from it.
Something to consider for early detection:
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Curious if he got the shot?
Just another reminder that each of us will face that same doorway at the end of our life. What happens, who is on the other side, where it leads is all decided by your decision for Christ.
Encouraging all Boilers to make Christmas about accepting, repenting, and celebrating Jesus, the Savior, this Christmas season.
MERRY CHRISTMAS to all, and to all, a good night.
Just another reminder that each of us will face that same doorway at the end of our life. What happens, who is on the other side, where it leads is all decided by your decision for Christ.
Encouraging all Boilers to make Christmas about accepting, repenting, and celebrating Jesus, the Savior, this Christmas season.
MERRY CHRISTMAS to all, and to all, a good night.
Why would you bring “the shot up”? People die of cancer, have always died of cancer, why would you say this out of curiosity? Awful odd post.
Very true, but I understand where he is coming from. There have been various illnesses that have been much higher in the population after post shot than before and there are many that are "linked" to illnesses. The timing is interesting because yesterday I posted a story about a ghost that a girl thought was in her room relative to @BoilerAndy along the lines of correlation in the Purdue vs Arizona thread that ties into this. None of this says @Woodsa hunch is wrong...or correct, but there are many links to various illnesses to the shot for someone to have a question.
When the data consists of many cases the link "may" be strong, but doesn't have to be, but there are a lot of data that could make someone question if the shot led to an illness. Still, as I stated "links" may or may not be be caused by a variable for the link between two "things".
If I removed obesity or say male bodies over X% of body fat between the ages of 10 and 22 as an example and only used that data, I would find a link or positive correlation between height and weight in that as weight increased so did the height, but we know "weight" didn't make someone grow taller. If I did the same thing between 40 and 50 the link or correlation would not be as strong as the 10 to 22 year old example.
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There is no evidence of an increase in cancer since the vaccine was introduced. Sometimes people just get cancer.
There is NO correlation between getting vaccinated and getting cancer. Another garbage myth from the internet.
With the politicization of the vaccines and lack of clear data that it does all that was hoped for my position is "either get the shot or don't." What you do is your decision. I'm older, fat, and a diabetic. I'd rather go with it than without. My wife has similar qualifications and after the initial two shots has not been boosted. I wish she were but I'll not say a word. It's her decision and I'll accept it.
Data says otherwise. Illness across the board are higher in age groups not seen before. The real myth is that "our trusted media tells us differently".
And, yes, there were diseases and illness and death L O N G before the shot was introduced. But, as I stated, those are all up for the "vaccinated", which make me curious.
Regardless, the real hurt is not at what age we die, but what we do with the life we have. As I stated, Christians have been reconciled to God for their sins through Christ's sacrifice. Believe, Repent, and Celebrate Christmas as you experience the true life-giving joy that goes beyond the grave.
No as I stated links do not provide evidence. I'm unaware of cancer specifically, but there are linkage with other things...AND that does NOT mean it is causal as I stated many times.
I had two shots, but not boosted either...and like you diabetic.
While in Italy as you recall I lost a friend...not a great friend a year or two younger than me. I was getting text updates from his daughter who was a friend of my daughter. He never got the shot, never smoked and was "slightly" overweight and died while I was over there...and then not long after I lost a first cousin that did smoke two years younger than me. I don't know and his sister did not know whether he had the shot or not, but we suspect he didn't. I have all the data from all the states in a file. When compared to previous years there were more deaths total (this way it didn't care if deaths were inaccurately labeled for more money) during the covid time than years before...I'm thinking about 800+ deaths a day, but it has been a while since I looked at it. In a couple of years there will be total deaths in the USA for another perspective as to whether Covid may have sped up a death a year or two in advance or not...as though I needed anything else to occupy my time.
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Actually, I would bet my life there is a correlation...some mathematical number...it isn't 0. What I wouldn't bet is that the correlation is significant and causal. Make no mistake there are studies from credible places that indicate linkage in other health areas, but again...linkage does NOT by itself prove anything.
There is clear data demonstrating that it does not do all that was hoped for. It does not provide immunity. Instead of immunity, as promised by the FDA and CDC, its promised effect is to "prevent hospitallization".
So if it keeps me out of the hospital, it did its job. The regular flu shot does not prevent the flu but lessens it's effects. I'm good with that
I'm neither overweight nor diabetic but I have do deal with other medical issues (high blood pressure and multiple sclerosis). I'm fully vaccinated and boosted. I don't want to take chances particularly living in an area of the nation where too many people have not taken vaccines for COVID or the flu. For me it's a "better safe than sorry" decision. I had COVID in June, fortunately it was only an annoying heavy cough for 10 days. It could have been much worse if I was unvaccinated. I'd rather not find out.
I think there is a higher percentage of people getting covid that had the shot than those that never. Still, here is an interesting take that I don't think was provided and could slip by a reader. "IF" there is a high percentage of people that got the shot(s) and less people that didn't...knowing that transmission is not affected by the shot then it is reasonable that the linkage indicating that a higher percent getting covid after having the shot than those that never got the shot could be explained that the general population was heavily weighted by those that had the shot and the higher percentage is misleading. I see things like this all the time.
Does she take C, D and Zinc? They are suppose to help. Course I was on them other than zinc before China unleashed the virus ...
Prayers to the family. I have lost family relatively young and it is always hard.
One thing for sure, 100% of us will succumb to something in this breif life. My hope for all is a decision for Christ. We all make that decision one way or another. I would encourage all to give it some thought. Peace.
One thing for sure, 100% of us will succumb to something in this breif life. My hope for all is a decision for Christ. We all make that decision one way or another. I would encourage all to give it some thought. Peace.
That is NOT a treatment, but to help the strengthen the body immune. Many people have taken C for years to lessen the harshness of colds.
I personally know an anesthesiologist in Indy who has not been able to work since his first shot. I understand he is not the only one that had real adverse reactions in the practice. I've known him for many years. There has always been some that had adverse reactions to medically approved treatment. So as @SIBoiler2 stated there is a decision weighing the risks for all. BTW, hopefully people understand that polio shot was stopped after a couple of years and restudied before being released again due to all the side effects (that's history). To pretend there are no risks in a treatment that was released with a compressed study makes little sense. THAT said, it was a better choice to have the shot for most, but make no mistake there were risks both ways as there always is
I think for those above 60 & anyone of any age with medical problems/issues that definitely was the case.
Not sure, looking back, that was the case for "most" of the rest of the population though?
I think her last shot was the "Buy Amazon" shot judging by the trucks coming up my drive every day.
That may be true, however, people in their 50’s getting and dying of cancer isn’t a new thing, not sure what the shot comment had to do with it? It’s terrible what happened to Montross, the question of the shot shouldn’t even been brought up in this post.
Look up doing a brave search SV40, which stands for Simian virus 40 and how it relates to vax and cancers. Covid vax is leading to "turbo" cancers as well as massive numbers of cardio victims. Some have died suddenly and now many are dead long after the last shot. Read two former staunch liberals Naomi Wolf and Steve Kirsch, Steve just in last 3 weeks released a statistical analysis of data leaked by a tech. worker in New Zealand. Health system there, which was mostly Pfizer shot taken, showed a death rate of at least 1 per 0ne thousand. Not including the enormous number of people disabled, this equates to over 10 million killed so far world wide.
We in this country are now living in a heavy censorship of information situation. There are many doctors and scientists who have spoken the truth about the covid vax and have lost their jobs or about to, because they actually put their patients welfare above profit
To me it was rather obvious. I did not see any suggestion of people dying of cancer in their 50s. I lost a brother-in-law that was interviewed by 60 minutes and was about to be very well off financially that died of large cell cancer at 49. I have prostrate cancer at this time and so there was no inference of people just now dying in their 50s. Instead, the poster was listing a rhetorical question in his mind due to data he was aware. I knew that immediately, but I'm not one that automatically listens to the media as a starting and ending spot. As an example I have right now all the deaths at different ages in all the states for the covid year. Few if any in this forum have tried to be independent in gathering an understanding by actually using data for an understanding and as a result of not being driven by the media.
As an example I have a sister that is quicker to believe things than I am that told me to look up so and so tying cancer to parasites for my prostrate cancer. Not believing her, but reading up on it so that I could engage her with something other than that is on the Internet or such and such and trying to kill the messenger I tried to get informed. What I read was that it "was promising", but not establish for lung and cervix cancer. I spoke with my daughter who is an anesthetists but no longer works since her husband makes enough money. She met when Lilly would fly him in for 3 days and the end of the month since he was doing research for Lilly...at the time with DNA and pharmaceuticals year ago. We couldn't reason a link of parasite entry into the prostrate on this unproven, but potential link...but I learned some things.
I don't see anything inappropriate with the original post. I doubt the family and loved ones of Montross solicit this site for any information and if I were a friend of ERic's I certainly wouldn't have been offended. I've had many much more harsh things in my life to have been affected by a question.
you would be surprised of how many are so unaware censorship even though it should be a non debated issue at this time since it has been found true at various places. It really makes you wonder if people are that independent in thought
It has been a while, but obviously those with medical issues were many times at risk. I'm thinking that the data listed obesity as the biggest problem.
I would encourage people to check out what Dr. Peter McCullough MD has to say about covid vax. He is a very highly published Cardiologist and Epidemiologist, widely regarded highly, but more recently fired from long term affiliation with Baylor medical school, and now just referred to as spouting "disinformation" about covid vax. Same has happened to many other doctors and specialists.
Yes
Age.
Obesity.
Underlying medical conditions.
All upped your risk of severe complications and even death.
But for many young people....no shot was fine.
I don't recall the particulars at this time as far as it "staying" localized and such. I do know that when the shots first came out my son-in-law (PHD Biological Statistics
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobias-guennel-91382b11 ) was familiar and said MRNA had been around for 10 or more years before Covid, but unsure if it was ever used in similar ways before. I cannot recall any particulars of importance. His partner (Scott) has Covid at this time...and Tobi sounds like he may have it right now as well. I'm vaguely familiar with Malone, but in all honesty even though I am somewhat familiar of which you speak I'm just not informed as well as I wish...too many other things have grabbed my time.
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