OT: Paying college athletes
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Thanks for posting. That's definitely an interesting angle to take and I like the creativity. There IS extreme value in a 4 year degree. Nobody is forcing these kids to play in college. In hoops, if they want a salary over an education, they should try to make it in Europe for a year playing overseas.
My thoughts exactly.....they get the degree paid for, all meals on campus and a chance to better their skills to make it to the next level.
That should be enough.....
I do think that every athlete should get a meal plan to help fuel their efforts to study and stay healthy.
Boiler Up.....I know I am a proud alumni of our student athletes and students at Purdue.
That should be enough.....
I do think that every athlete should get a meal plan to help fuel their efforts to study and stay healthy.
Boiler Up.....I know I am a proud alumni of our student athletes and students at Purdue.
And for those that claim these kids live off campus...that is their own choice. If they choose to live on campus, that comes with an inherent cost that their scholarship may not 100% cover. I am guessing if a football player asked to live in Cary or another dorm, that would be available for them without question. Unlike the dorm food halls, the Training Table (athletics food hall), I believe that stays open all day for students to come and go.
And give up the free room and board? World class facilities? Top level coaching? Built-in fan bases? Playing almost all of your games on tv?
Give all that up to go make a salary in a foreign land where you know nobody and everyone speaks a different language? It's much, much easier to go to college and complain about money.
If you start paying them you might as well just do away with college sports. It would no longer be fun to watch
Training table is not open all day and actually doesn't exist except for football in the weeks before classes start. It never exists for basketball. Yes, there are ways for a player to get "stuff", but it's not a buffet. The football players can get milk, choco milk, and protein bars from the weight people if they are around, but it's not sitting out. Players often run out of their meal stipend a week before the month ends. If you want to find real hunger, find a football guy on the 29th of a month.
Actually, student athletes must get permission to live off campus. It is rarely denied, but can be for either discipline or academic issues. And yes, the sscholarhip included room and board. If they move off campus, it becomes a stipend equal to on-campus cost. BTW - freshmen are never allowed to live off-campus/
One other "benefit" that the rest of us students had to pay for is tutoring. I am sure they get the best of the best to help them in academics.
um ... nope. Many classes have no tutor. They are in great demand. At times student athletes are not the easiest guys to tutor.. If you are an undergrad, the athletic dept pays minimum wage for tutoring, not the $20/hr that you can find posted on bulletin boards. NO .... NO, they do NOT get the best tutors. Often, they don't even get a tutor.
Undergraduate tutors receive $7.50/hr.
Tutors with a bachelor’s degree receive $9.50/hr.
Tutors with a master’s degreeor 30 hours of graduate credit receive $11.50/hr.
Tutors with a Ph.D.receive $13.50/hr.
PLUS - if a tutor has three or four student athletes in a room tutoring them, the tutor gets the same hourly rate ... it's not per athlete, it's per hour.
Understand that this post addresses all student athletes, not specific to basketball. Todd does a great job with bball guys and in general, they need far less help than other sports.
http://www.purdue.edu/athletics/boilerathlete/Academic Forms/Tutoring Prorgram F08.pdf
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His freshman year? Maybe Coach allowed it. I don't know. That would be a real exception.
It was one of the reasons that he pulled back from the MSU commit. Rosie said he had an eating disorder and the last thing he needed was to be sitting around a dorm watching others eating pizza. Rosie had him on a strict diet and didn't want anyone messing with it.
DDD, always appreciate the insight. I might be "mis-remembering," but wasn't this a big deal a few years ago which prompted the NCAA to change the rules to allow schools to provide unlimited meals & snacks for athletes? Do I have that wrong? If not, what's the issue with the implementation that's resulting in athletes still going hungry?
You hired a tutor as an undergrad at Purdue? That is quasi-retard.
Let's be honest here, these "tutors" and academic advisors are simply cheaters for jocks. They write their papers, they acquire previous tests from courses, they guide them into no-work courses. Notre Dame is the worst but UNC, Auburn, Rutgers, there are many others.
PU student athletes get a monthly stipend for Sunday meals. I thinik it's $100/month. That's it. They can eat all they want at meals at the dorms ... but when those aren't served, then they have that $100. I'll ask some guys how that works these days. Updates in a bit (like we'll know more tomorrow)).
I don't agree with that. Purdue is a difficult school. Classes aren't easy. I had a friend at Purdue on an athletic scholarship many years ago. She was valedictorian of her high school class. But when her sport was in season, she took advantage of the tutoring services offered by the university and was thankful for them. And the tutors didn't do any of the stuff you suggest. Rather, they helped her learn the subject material. Between practices and away games, even the smartest and best students need that kind of help.
I didn't hire a tutor as an undergrad but I went to tons of study and review sessions offered by the TAs before tests. I also went to Stewart Center and reviewed all the old tests from previous semesters that were on file there. Maybe you didn't need that kind of help as a student, but I did and I'm sure others need that that and more.
Maybe if I had had a tutor I could of gotten a 6.0 my freshman year. In spite of all the prep I did, Professor Schulter always came up with problems on the Physic 152 tests that were completely different from the prior year's exams and what we reviewed in the help sessions. I worked harder for that B in Physics 152 than I did for all the As I got in my other Freshman Engineering classes. By Junior year, the 5.8 GPA took a dive thanks to EE 311, EE302 and other classes. EE Junior year was hard. In hindsight I wish I had hired a tutor that year. Guess that makes me a quasi-retard too.
This is an extremely uninformed post. Nothing "honest" about it.
Tutors guide athletes into "no-work courses"?
Boris, you usually post better stuff than this nonsense. Obviously you have never participated in tutoring or being tutored. Maybe you were lucky not to need a tutor, but many kids do. All I can do is relate my experience at Purdue to confront this statement of yours. Maybe you intended to target tutoring at other "sterling bastions of academia" like UK, UNC or O$U? (Are those places still considered part of academia?)
I tutored at Purdue. My job was to get my students to learn the material. I did not write any papers, didn't have access to past tests, and did not steer them to no-work classes. I did read the papers and offer suggestions for improving them, however, I did not author any part of those improvements. All of the students I worked with were successful.
Please think a bit more about what you post. You won't sound as much of a (how did you put it?) quasi-retard.
Boris, you usually post better stuff than this nonsense. Obviously you have never participated in tutoring or being tutored. Maybe you were lucky not to need a tutor, but many kids do. All I can do is relate my experience at Purdue to confront this statement of yours. Maybe you intended to target tutoring at other "sterling bastions of academia" like UK, UNC or O$U? (Are those places still considered part of academia?)
I tutored at Purdue. My job was to get my students to learn the material. I did not write any papers, didn't have access to past tests, and did not steer them to no-work classes. I did read the papers and offer suggestions for improving them, however, I did not author any part of those improvements. All of the students I worked with were successful.
Please think a bit more about what you post. You won't sound as much of a (how did you put it?) quasi-retard.
Tutoring again, eh.
