Oregon state depth chart

[BCfanatic2020]

Oregon State Beavers depth chart for final week of preseason football camp

Camp wraps up Thursday, as Beavers then head into game-week preparations for Purdue on Sept. 4

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Minnesota transfer not shown at DT. Their DT has 7 career tackles. They lost their most experienced DE. I really see them having to commit so much attention to Horvath (or let him run wild) that the underneath stuff will just be too wide open (unless, like allowing Horvath to run wild, they make the ridiculous decision of trying to go man up on bell and Wright). I look for one of two scenarios..

> we find out Skelton was always a ridiculous talent whose time just hadn’t come

> plummer, anthrop and Durham are all extremely comfortable and productive

Roberts and speights will have to stay too close to Horvath and this is a disaster against a Jeff brohm offense

 

[wakeman2626]

QB Sam Noyer was atrocious last year at Colorado. This is not a good team. Purdue should handle them pretty easily IMO.

 

[Matt Tiger]

QB Sam Noyer was atrocious last year at Colorado. This is not a good team. Purdue should handle them pretty easily IMO.

I hope you are correct.The OSU beat writer says Noyer was 2nd team All Pac 12 at Colorado.I hope he is wrong.

 

[Esox54547]

QB Sam Noyer was atrocious last year at Colorado. This is not a good team. Purdue should handle them pretty easily IMO.

Well somehow he managed to be 2nd team all conference last year. But yeah 6 tds and 7 ints????

 

[Matt Tiger]

I checked his career numbers.They are not impressive.He has six career td throws and 9 interceptions.

 

[wakeman2626]

I checked his career numbers.They are not impressive.He has six career td throws and 9 interceptions.

The tape is equally bad, if not worse. I chalk his 2nd team All-PAC up to the hot mess that was 2020 PAC12 football. They somehow mismanaged the season even worse than the B1G.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

Well somehow he managed to be 2nd team all conference last year. But yeah 6 tds and 7 ints????

He’s a runner if I understand right

 

[BCfanatic2020]

That is why Marvin is so important .. he knocked Illinois QB out last year. If noyer can also pass like minny’s QB that’s one thing.. If he can’t it’s gonna suck for them

 

[Boilers424]

Oregon State's starting DB, Rejzohn Wright, was featured in Season 5 of Netflix's Last Chance U (Laney College in CA). I believe he had offers from Boise State, San Jose State, Hawaii and San Diego State as well but chose OSU because his older brother played there at the time.

 

[KentuckyBoiler]

I checked his career numbers.They are not impressive.He has six career td throws and 9 interceptions.

His numbers might not be impressive, but how many first time starters and other non impressive QBs against everyone else just shred our defense over the last 2 to 3 years. Too many to count. I hope this is now in the past with our new DCs.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

His numbers might not be impressive, but how many first time starters and other non impressive QBs against everyone else just shred our defense over the last 2 to 3 years. Too many to count. I hope this is now in the past with our new DCs.

If Marvin is full go I wish he would run lol

 

[Esox54547]

His numbers might not be impressive, but how many first time starters and other non impressive QBs against everyone else just shred our defense over the last 2 to 3 years. Too many to count. I hope this is now in the past with our new DCs.

Rocky Lombardi for instance, lol

 

[FirstDownB]

Well somehow he managed to be 2nd team all conference last year. But yeah 6 tds and 7 ints????

That does not speak well of QB play in the Pac-12.

 

[Matt Tiger]

The tape is equally bad, if not worse. I chalk his 2nd team All-PAC up to the hot mess that was 2020 PAC12 football. They somehow mismanaged the season even worse than the B1G.

It must have been a hot mess if a guy with those stats was 2nd team in a 12 team league.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

It must have been a hot mess if a guy with those stats was 2nd team in a 12 team league.

I just don’t think he’s gonna be able to pass well enough to set up the run.. especially with George, Graham and grant on one side and oc brothers on the other side. Unless he’s mike Vick I don’t think he’s outrunning that group unless they’re off balance. This team scared me with gebbia because he’s a really accurate passer. With noyer they’re reminding me a lot of Vanderbilt

 

[wakeman2626]

It must have been a hot mess if a guy with those stats was 2nd team in a 12 team league.

I mean I just don't get how he was selected lol ... he was 7th in YPG, tied for 4th in TDs, tied 1st in INTs, dead last in completion % and efficiency. He did rush for 200+ yards and 5 TDs so I guess that is where he made up ground but still strange to me. Make him throw it, he can't.

stats- https://stats.pac-12.com/sports/fball/2020-21/players?sort=pyg&view=&pos=qb&r=0

 

[BCfanatic2020]

I mean I just don't get how he was selected lol ... he was 7th in YPG, tied for 4th in TDs, tied 1st in INTs, dead last in completion % and efficiency. He did rush for 200+ yards and 5 TDs so I guess that is where he made up ground but still strange to me. Make him throw it, he can't.

stats- https://stats.pac-12.com/sports/fball/2020-21/players?sort=pyg&view=&pos=qb&r=0

They beat Oregon? Could it be that simple lol

 

[wakeman2626]

They beat Oregon? Could it be that simple lol

Colorado didn't play Oregon last year but they did go 4-1 regular season which could explain it.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

Colorado didn't play Oregon last year but they did go 4-1 regular season which could explain it.

Oh my bad ..

 

[Calibeav03]

I come in peace from Beaver Nation with a few artifacts to assist in your pre game opponent prep:

1. Allegedly Noyer hurt his shoulder in the Buffs game against Utah and rather than go with the backup the team allowed him to play injured in their Bowl game against Texas where he was 8/23. The numbers are still the numbers and if you play then you are healthy in my book, but in a short sample of games a stinker like that really skews the data. That second team selection was a function of Noyer getting Colorado within 1 game from the conference championship when they were predicted by most to finish last in the Pac 12 South.

When healthy, Noyer certainly has plus arm strength and is mobile as seen here:





2. Updated OSU depth chart for game week here with some notable additions/revisions from the one up top.

3. Looking forward to college football being back with fans and a good game on Saturday.

 

[wakeman2626]

Oh my bad ..

Don't worry when you said that I initially looked at the OSU v Oregon box score from last year and was like where the hell is Noyer? Lol confusing that he came from another PAC12 team.

 

[FirstDownB]

I come in peace from Beaver Nation with a few artifacts to assist in your pre game opponent prep:

1. Allegedly Noyer hurt his shoulder in the Buffs game against Utah and rather than go with the backup the team allowed him to play injured in their Bowl game against Texas where he was 8/23. The numbers are still the numbers and if you play then you are healthy in my book, but in a short sample of games a stinker like that really skews the data. That second team selection was a function of Noyer getting Colorado within 1 game from the conference championship when they were predicted by most to finish last in the Pac 12 South.

When healthy, Noyer certainly has plus arm strength and is mobile as seen here:

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2. Updated OSU depth chart for game week here with some notable additions/revisions from the one up top.

3. Looking forward to college football being back with fans and a good game on Saturday.

Good stuff. As others noted there have certainly been less talented QB's that have defeated Purdue.

Just putting the "2nd team Pac-12" label in context. Here are the 2020 stats for the Big Ten's 2nd team QB vs. Noyer vs. composite of Purdue's 2 starters.
Penix: 6 games, 1,645 pass yds, 25 rush yds, 16 TD (14 pass/2 rush), 4 INT
Noyer: 6 games, 1,101 pass yds, 208 rush yds, 11 TD (6 pass/5 rush), 7 INT
Plummer/O'C: 6 games, 1,854 pass yds, -43 rush yds, 16 TD (15 pass/1 rush), 4 INT

Maybe a poor man's Peyton Ramsey. And that's not a diss. He ate our lunch multiple times.

 

[Calibeav03]

Good stuff. As others noted there have certainly been less talented QB's that have defeated Purdue.

Just putting the "2nd team Pac-12" label in context. Here are the 2020 stats for the Big Ten's 2nd team QB vs. Noyer vs. composite of Purdue's 2 starters.
Penix: 6 games, 1,645 pass yds, 25 rush yds, 16 TD (14 pass/2 rush), 4 INT
Noyer: 6 games, 1,101 pass yds, 208 rush yds, 11 TD (6 pass/5 rush), 7 INT
Plummer/O'C: 6 games, 1,854 pass yds, -43 rush yds, 16 TD (15 pass/1 rush), 4 INT

Maybe a poor man's Peyton Ramsey. And that's not a diss. He ate our lunch multiple times.

Yea the picks are concerning either way you slice it and it sounds like he hasn't been the cleanest with things so far in camp. The first game of they year is such a wild card so who knows which version of last year's Noyer will show up. Aside from the obvious turnover battle and special teams play my two main keys for the game are:

1. The talented group of Bell Wright, Anthrop vs Beavs secondary who are young (outside of 1 spot) but long and rangy
2. Beavs D line hanging up front VS Purdue O Line. The trenches are always key but for the Beavs its been crippling that a bad d line has muted the strength of the line backing group,

I think the teams are evenly matched in a lot of other areas so, to me the way those matchups go will decide this one.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

Yea the picks are concerning either way you slice it and it sounds like he hasn't been the cleanest with things so far in camp. The first game of they year is such a wild card so who knows which version of last year's Noyer will show up. Aside from the obvious turnover battle and special teams play my two main keys for the game are:

1. The talented group of Bell Wright, Anthrop vs Beavs secondary who are young (outside of 1 spot) but long and rangy
2. Beavs D line hanging up front VS Purdue O Line. The trenches are always key but for the Beavs its been crippling that a bad d line has muted the strength of the line backing group,

I think the teams are evenly matched in a lot of other areas so, to me the way those matchups go will decide this one.

I’d make 2 first, 1 third and second I’d put blocking karlaftis … good chance he’s the best if not one of the few best defensive ends in America this year.

 

[SCBoiler1]

LOL. Focus on Horvath or he runs wild? Nobody is going to focus their defense on stopping Horvath. If our plan is to center our offense around Horvath, we're in for a long season.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

LOL. Focus on Horvath or he runs wild? Nobody is going to focus their defense on stopping Horvath. If our plan is to center our offense around Horvath, we're in for a long season.

They run a 3-4 with nothing returning at NT .. where you can’t be just ok, you have to be outstanding to anchor a 3-4. They have a collection of new players who look like meh 4-3 NTs. IF they stay in a 3-4 and the NT can’t take up two blockers really well, they have two choices.. keep the inside linebacker too close to defend the run (Durham anthrop can work the intermediate areas) or allow inside holes that a decent back can use to get big gains.

your plan is based on your opponents weaknesses

 

[purduepat1969]

They run a 3-4 with nothing returning at NT .. where you can’t be just ok, you have to be outstanding to anchor a 3-4. They have a collection of new players who look like meh 4-3 NTs. IF they stay in a 3-4 and the NT can’t take up two blockers really well, they have two choices.. keep the inside linebacker too close to defend the run (Durham anthrop can work the intermediate areas) or allow inside holes that a decent back can use to get big gains.

your plan is based on your opponents weaknesses

How do you know they'll run a 3-4 this year?

 

[Calibeav03]

They run a 3-4 with nothing returning at NT .. where you can’t be just ok, you have to be outstanding to anchor a 3-4. They have a collection of new players who look like meh 4-3 NTs. IF they stay in a 3-4 and the NT can’t take up two blockers really well, they have two choices.. keep the inside linebacker too close to defend the run (Durham anthrop can work the intermediate areas) or allow inside holes that a decent back can use to get big gains.

your plan is based on your opponents weaknesses

Spot on. We have not had the personnel to run a 3-4 for the last several years. But for some reason we are still riding with it and still riding with Tibs (who i'm sure you all loved) at DC. So it's been square peg round hole without any bad ass d linemen yet still running a 3-4. There has been an intriguing development out of camp reflected up front in the updated depth chart I linked but until proven otherwise the defensive front is and will be this teams Achilles heel.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

Spot on. We have not had the personnel to run a 3-4 for the last several years. But for some reason we are still riding with it and still riding with Tibs (who i'm sure you all loved) at DC. So it's been square peg round hole without any bad ass d linemen yet still running a 3-4. There has been an intriguing development out of camp reflected up front in the updated depth chart I linked but until proven otherwise the defensive front is and will be this teams Achilles heel.

If it’s Sio that’s fine … it’s better than a 4-3 so so DT.. but I would fear a player with sio’s size if he was known for moving very well at that size with some sort of track record.

it’s not just you guys .. we ran a 3-4 last year with terrible results.. I tend to think it’s a waste of time unless you’re like bama, Clemson, Georgia etc and you’re getting the kind of NTs who just engulf the middle of good OLs.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

How do you know they'll run a 3-4 this year?

I do my research? Lol .. it’s what tibesar does.

 

[purduepat1969]

I do my research? Lol .. it’s what tibesar does.

Could be. Doesn't mean they have to.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

Could be. Doesn't mean they have to.

Yeah I guess brohm could go to I formation double this year too.. maybe they’ll come out in a 1-7-3 lol.. but if they do what he’s always done then they won’t.

this reminds me of frost being mystified that Bret bielema ran the exact same offense he did the last time he was in the big Ten lol

 

[Calibeav03]

If it’s Sio that’s fine … it’s better than a 4-3 so so DT.. but I would fear a player with sio’s size if he was known for moving very well at that size with some sort of track record.

it’s not just you guys .. we ran a 3-4 last year with terrible results.. I tend to think it’s a waste of time unless you’re like bama, Clemson, Georgia etc and you’re getting the kind of NTs who just engulf the middle of good OLs.

Boom!. This is what I say all the time as well. If you don't have at least 2 good to elite d linemen you cannot consistently be successful in an odd front. Bama is the other college team I root for by function of family history and to watch them play 3-4 compared to other schools without elite line talent is such a sharp contrast.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

Boom!. This is what I say all the time as well. If you don't have at least 2 good to elite d linemen you cannot consistently be successful in an odd front. Bama is the other college team I root for by function of family history and to watch them play 3-4 compared to other schools without elite line talent is such a sharp contrast.

It’s just a stupid idea lol. Again we had to live through it last year. It reminds me of when Darrell hazell was here. He was obviously a terrible coach who had a lot break right for him his last year at Kent State.. but I should have seen it coming when he said that he wanted to do .. in west Lafayette.. what Jim tressel did at Ohio state

well that’s great if Purdue can just get the best physical players up front on both sides of the ball.. yeah then you can play elite defense and run a vanilla offense. But this is west Lafayette .. we get guys like George karlaftis once every ten years if that (I would say once in my lifetime but then I’d have to read pages about how Shawn Phillips and Ryan Kerrigan were just as good, which isn’t the point). Here you better be going for the throat or you’re just done.

schools like Oregon state and Purdue should just be grinding out a solid 4-3 defense

 

[Calibeav03]

It’s just a stupid idea lol. Again we had to live through it last year. It reminds me of when Darrell hazell was here. He was obviously a terrible coach who had a lot break right for him his last year at Kent State.. but I should have seen it coming when he said that he wanted to do .. in west Lafayette.. what Jim tressel did at Ohio state

well that’s great if Purdue can just get the best physical players up front on both sides of the ball.. yeah then you can play elite defense and run a vanilla offense. But this is west Lafayette .. we get guys like George karlaftis once every ten years if that (I would say once in my lifetime but then I’d have to read pages about how Shawn Phillips and Ryan Kerrigan were just as good, which isn’t the point). Here you better be going for the throat or you’re just done.

schools like Oregon state and Purdue should just be grinding out a solid 4-3 defense

You and I would get along lol. This is spot on again. From 2000 - 2008 Oregon State had the 2nd most wins in the Pac 10 behind USC , a season with a #3 final national ranking and in back to back seasons were 1 win away from Rose Bowl appearances. Our base defense was a 4-3 with fast ends and two tackles that could hold their own. Lightning quick backers, and press man corners. All talents/skill sets that are repeatedly recruit able to Corvallis and West Lafayette. I know imitation is the highest form of flattery but at some point reality has to set in. Defensively the scheme should match the personnel.

 

[Purdue85]

You and I would get along lol.

...brothers from a different mother...

 

[BCfanatic2020]

...brothers from a different mother...

I’ve always felt like the evil Purdue85… or like after I have a bunch of flagrant takes the cast of scooby doo pulls my mask off and It’s really Purdue85

“and I would have kept posting hot takes if it wasn’t for those kids!!”

 

[SCBoiler1]

They run a 3-4 with nothing returning at NT .. where you can’t be just ok, you have to be outstanding to anchor a 3-4. They have a collection of new players who look like meh 4-3 NTs. IF they stay in a 3-4 and the NT can’t take up two blockers really well, they have two choices.. keep the inside linebacker too close to defend the run (Durham anthrop can work the intermediate areas) or allow inside holes that a decent back can use to get big gains.

your plan is based on your opponents weaknesses

We were last in the conference in rushing last year. Purdue uses its rushing game to keep people honest. I can't see us going into a game thinking we're just going to enforce our will with run against anyone. We'd be trying to take advantage of their weakness with our weakness.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

We were last in the conference in rushing last year. Purdue uses its rushing game to keep people honest. I can't see us going into a game thinking we're just going to enforce our will with run against anyone. We'd be trying to take advantage of their weakness with our weakness.

A LOT of teams could impose their will on a 3-4 team with a meh 4-3 DT at nose unless the linebackers stay close

 

[SDBoiler1]

How do you know they'll run a 3-4 this year?

Because that’s what they run. Their media has stated that’s what they run. Their DC is Tim Tibesar (same guy in D-Haze’s last season) and he picked up the 3-4 when he coached at Wisky for a couple of years as their LB Coach.