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Oh jfc from what? How has your freedoms been taken away from you in the last two years? My god you’re a drama queen.
You think you’re going to be more free the next two years? Even if the pubs won both houses, prepare for revenge show trials and impeachments. Nothing is actually going to get done, especially with a divided government.
LOL, You do realize the Republicans can put a halt to the stupid policies and will control the purse strings? For starters our current energy policy has taken away our domestic energy production freedom away.
What’s different about our current energy policy vs four years ago, other than nothing?
Outstanding.....sounds less expensive & less wasteful of our tax dollars.
Biden’s Radical, Anti-Fossil Fuel Energy Policy Costs Americans Dearly
There’s a popular genre of fiction books and TV programs that explore what the world might have been like if history had taken a different twist. What if Julius Caesar never crossed the Rubicon? What if Napoleon won at Waterloo? What if the Allies lost the Great War? And what might gasoline...
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Biden signals radical shift from Trump era with executive orders on climate change | Joe Biden | The Guardian
‘We need to be bold,’ Biden says, signing orders to halt fossil fuel activity on public lands and transform the government’s fleet of cars into electric vehicles
So, again, nothing has changed. Thanks for confirming.Biden’s Radical, Anti-Fossil Fuel Energy Policy Costs Americans Dearly
There’s a popular genre of fiction books and TV programs that explore what the world might have been like if history had taken a different twist. What if Julius Caesar never crossed the Rubicon? What if Napoleon won at Waterloo? What if the Allies lost the Great War? And what might gasoline...Biden signals radical shift from Trump era with executive orders on climate change | Joe Biden | The Guardian
‘We need to be bold,’ Biden says, signing orders to halt fossil fuel activity on public lands and transform the government’s fleet of cars into electric vehiclesamp.theguardian.com
What’s different though? It’s not like refineries have shut down and oil isn’t flowing. You said our domestic energy freedoms have been taken away and that is a lie.
So you don’t think his reversal of Trump’s pro energy policies has impacted supply?
Quote from article plus there’s more
“ But when Biden entered office with a clear agenda to forcefully transition Americans away from fossil fuels and demonstrated that intent with a regulatory agenda to achieve it, that changed the supply-demand communication. It inserted artificial constraints on oil production despite demand.
For example, U.S. crude oil production in 2021 during Biden’s first year in office was 9% below 2019 levels and, incredibly, even below 2020 levels when the worst of the pandemic shock took place. Where the 2020 outlook anticipated production of 13.2 million barrels per day in 2021, reality was 11.2 million barrels per day.”
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No. Supply and demand impacts supply. A global pandemic impacts supply. Many things impact supply. A couple of executive orders that had nothing to do with supply didn’t impact supply.
WtF is “domestic energy freedom “ anyway? You threw it out there. Define it.
Domestic energy freedom = Energy independence resulting from opening up full domestic energy capability which increases supply. Opening up ANWR, Keystone pipeline, approve more permits………
Quote from article plus there’s more
“ But when Biden entered office with a clear agenda to forcefully transition Americans away from fossil fuels and demonstrated that intent with a regulatory agenda to achieve it, that changed the supply-demand communication. It inserted artificial constraints on oil production despite demand.
For example, U.S. crude oil production in 2021 during Biden’s first year in office was 9% below 2019 levels and, incredibly, even below 2020 levels when the worst of the pandemic shock took place. Where the 2020 outlook anticipated production of 13.2 million barrels per day in 2021, reality was 11.2 million barrels per day.”
That sounds like something our Dementia Patient in Chief would say at a presser.
lol. Domestic energy production freedom? Is that the loss of freedom you were referring to in your original post? Not quite. It’s not even true. The topic has been beat to death here. The government doesn’t dictate how much oil is produced. Do you understand that? Yet another BS argument that gets shot down and then is brought up again and portrayed as fact a month later like nothing happened.
What real freedoms were taken away? For freaking once in your life stay on the topic YOU started.
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From one of the complainers of corruption in Washington and a do nothing congress.
All of a sudden a congress that spends most of its time investigating is a good thing? Just because you don’t like the legislation doesn’t mean it was a waste for congress to pass it.
Another thing that will happen. A republican congress will bass bill after bill that has no chance of becoming law……..but will use Biden’s veto as political capital. That’s not wasteful.
So you are saying Biden’s policies have no impact on domestic energy? That’s rich even foryou moving the goalposts Bob.
So if Trump gets re-elected or another Republican wins in 2024 and implements energy policies that enable more domestic supply which results in lower energy costs it won’t be because of their policies? That doesn’t even pass the giggle test. I’ll leave this one from your president who you say doesn’t impact energy markets. Staying on topic just for you moving goalposts Bob. I could list other freedoms being taking away but I’ll stick to just this one for you moving the goalposts Bob.
Biden calls on oil companies to 'expand supply' after demanding 'no new drilling' on hot mic — Fox News
President Biden is criticizing oil companies for not using their profits to expand supply, yet he has repeatedly said he would end fossil fuel drilling.
How has domestic energy production freedom been taken away? The facts show something entirely different. I'll leave this link here just in case you're interesting in actual data.
How have freedoms been restricted under the Dems?
Oh, well, let's see. You were forced to take a shot or lose your job.
Forced to wear a face diaper that science proved provided little to no protection against virus transmission.
Gas prices have more than doubled because of dem policies.
Should I continue?
So, why did Biden tap into the country's strategic oil preserves?
Because, “supply and demand impacts supply”… and it was just a few hundred billion eleventy thousand trillion barrels anyway.
I wasn’t. I don’t know anybody who was. It did happen but it affected a tiny fraction of workers in the country. If you worked in healthcare and refused you should be fired. If it’s a condition of employment then that’s the rule…….just like passing a drug test or background check.
What freedom was taken away by masks? The freedom to……..what…….not wear a mask? This might be the ultimate example of victimization by those in your party, and that’s saying something. Besides, public health always has and always will take precedence over the individual. I’m sorry for the massive inconvenience to you so that others might be safe. Cry me a river.
Are you talking about freedom to drive? You’re still just as free to drive with higher gas prices. Just costs more. Is this really how you define freedom as enumerated by the OP?
Yes, you should continue because your examples are lame and demonstrate no restriction of the freedoms guaranteed in this country. You know, the ones in the constitution you people refer to all the time. One would think you knew something about it.
Why should nurses get fired for not getting a shot that turned out not to be an effective vaccine after all?
If I didn’t know better I would think you’re 15. “Moving the goalposts Bob” 3 times in a post? What topic am I moving away from? You’re the one moving away from your “freedom” topic. I foolishly thought you were talking about free speech or voting or something significant.So you are saying Biden’s policies have no impact on domestic energy? That’s rich even foryou moving the goalposts Bob.
So if Trump gets re-elected or another Republican wins in 2024 and implements energy policies that enable more domestic supply which results in lower energy costs it won’t be because of their policies? That doesn’t even pass the giggle test. I’ll leave this one from your president who you say doesn’t impact energy markets. Staying on topic just for you moving goalposts Bob. I could list other freedoms being taking away but I’ll stick to just this one for you moving the goalposts Bob.
Biden calls on oil companies to 'expand supply' after demanding 'no new drilling' on hot mic — Fox News
President Biden is criticizing oil companies for not using their profits to expand supply, yet he has repeatedly said he would end fossil fuel drilling.apple.news
I didn’t say no impact. I said the government doesn’t dictate how much oil is produced. That’s up to the oil companies and is based on all sorts of factors.
I believe that the stated intentions of Biden and the democrats to move to green energy in the future does have SOME effect on current pricing. The oil companies have to take that into effect. But in the here and now, any affect on price is minuscule. Claiming the pipeline has an effect is silly.
You still don’t understand that oil prices are based on GLOBAL production and demand.
Your scenario assumes much and is devoid of factors that affect the price of oil. The giggle test? What condition is the world economy in in 2024? Is Ukraine still at war? In your hypothetical how much oil is OPEC producing………because for all your elementary, cavalier BS about what will happen under trump, if you don’t know the answers to those questions and many others it’s idiotic to presume what trumps energy policies will do. When you say his policies would enable more production and lower prices it’s shows you have no freakin clue what you’re talking about. If OPEC isn’t keeping production down do you REALLY think US producers are going to INCREASE theirs? Trump’s policies aren’t going to mean a damn thing if demand is low. OPEC cut production a month ago? What did that do to prices? Did the US companies increase production in this country?
Oil production in the US DOESN’T DIRECTLY AFFECT OUR PRICES AT THE PUMP. We won’t have lower prices in the US compared to the rest of the world because we produce more oil here. We don’t operate in an oil vacuum from the rest of the world. If you take anything away from this at least understand that.
Numbers are still far below pre-pandemic. 500K to 1.5M a month. Current administration is 100% against oil and gas.
I don’t think @PurdueFan1 has an answer for this one…
Yesterday my wife saw me laughing and asked why. I told her I was responding to a poster who sad Biden's policies didn't have an impact on energy costs and she said "did this person graduate from Purdue?". She didn't graduate from Purdue but is fairly accomplished being a VP at a major multinational company. If you believe Biden's war on fossil fuels hasn't impacted our freedom try telling that to to rural family that puts many miles on their car daily, or why did he put our country at risk by draining our strategic oil reserves to record low levels? Energy market costs is determined by supply and demand. With global demand high, Biden needs to do everything in his power to facilitate more supply instead of putting his thumb on the scales. The USA has many years of untapped energy and we would be a lot more free if we were allowed to use it instead of relying on unfriendly foreign countries to make up for the shortfall. There are many other freedom risks I could bring up such as banning key military personnel who refuse vaccination when we are at a recruiting shortfall along with other freedom risks but self appointed Energy Denier Bob has given me instruction on my own post mind you to stick on one point.
And the Energy Deniers on this board are ignoring one of the articles that said:
“ But when Biden entered office with a clear agenda to forcefully transition Americans away from fossil fuels and demonstrated that intent with a regulatory agenda to achieve it, that changed the supply-demand communication. It inserted artificial constraints on oil production despite demand.
For example, U.S. crude oil production in 2021 during Biden’s first year in office was 9% below 2019 levels and, incredibly, even below 2020 levels when the worst of the pandemic shock took place. Where the 2020 outlook anticipated production of 13.2 million barrels per day in 2021, reality was 11.2 million barrels per day.”
What I was really referring to is that scientific phenomenon known as "Virus Jumping". It's the damndest thing...
You see, the Dems said that when you're in a restaurant, you have to wear your mask, except when you're sitting at your table. The reason being...Virus Jumping. The rona virus can jump from person to person walking through a restaurant, but once you sit down, you have a magical force-field surrounding you, which prevents Virus Jumping. Therefore, you're protected and don't have to wear a mask.....BUT, only when you're sitting at a table. It's really interesting. I'm surprised you didn't know this.
Your wife is a smart woman. Congrats!
The only funny part about Biden and his energy mistakes is that
A) He's still lining Putin's pockets and helping fund the war in Ukraine by purchasing Russian oil (as well as having sent over $1B to Ukraine...Yeh, that makes sense).
and
B) He went to the Middle East and begged the OPEC countries not to constrain output (they told him to go pound sand....pun intended).
Don't forget brilliant Biden is still negotiating the Iranian deal along with discussing getting oil from Venezuela
Looking @ the 15 months prepandemic there were 186,227,000 barrels .....
The last 15 months under Biden 174,219,000.
Thus your data shows prepandemic we pumped 12,008,000 more barrels in those 15 months or almost 7% more.
Thanks for the data that shows clearly prepandemic we were producing more than under Biden.
Do you not understand what happened to the production facilities during the pandemic? You think that there can be a finger snap and it's right back to exactly where it was? We're damn close to were it was and the data hardly shows a "loss of energy freedom" or whatever ridiculous thing BSIT posted.
You really need to stop staring at your rectal walls. You seem to be oblivious to everything that's happening in the real world.
