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You hear this criticism/complaint quite frequently in the sports world, and college basketball is no exception. So-and-so isn't hustling, so-and-so is being lazy, etc. It seems like the player for Purdue who gets this leveled at them the most is Hammons. He's expected to be really aggressive, so I guess it comes naturally to call him lazy if he's not being as aggressive as we'd like.

I'm a Cleveland Indians fan, and currently reading a book on the Tribe teams of the 90s-- Glory Days in Tribe Town-- co-written by Cleveland Plain Dealer sports writer Terry Pluto, and Indians play-by-play broadcaster Tom Hamilton. Something that Hamilton said in the book really struck me. He was talking about Cleveland Hall of Famer Herb Score who did the play-by-play for the Indians before Hamilton, and with him for a while.

One thing that Score told Hamilton is that he would never call a player out for what looked like a lack of hustle. Because "you never knew what was going on with that player." Having such a longstanding and good relationship with the Indians as first a player, and then a sports caster, Score had plenty of inside knowledge of the organization and players, and had personally known of times where a player was dealing with some minor nagging injury, but was toughing it out and trying to play through it. A lot of time for minor injuries like that, it never becomes public knowledge. One possible reason is because you wouldn't want the opposing team's battery to know that you aren't a threat to steal. Another is that a lot of these players genuinely are tough and don't think such a small injury is worth discussing publicly. But the point is, we just might not know. And despite insider info, Score didn't always know either. So he made a conscious decision never to call a player out for "being lazy" on the air.

I enjoyed reading that, and felt a little convicted with the way that I speak about players sometimes. Again, it seems like Hammons is the one that gets this particular criticism a lot, but applies across the board too. With Hammons, unfortunately I feel like the laziness stereotype has been exacerbated by the look on his face. One of my non-Purdue friends described Hammons as "always looking like he just got out of bed..."

Anyways, just some food for thought.
 
He looked like a man amongst boys on Saturday. I haven't seen him look disinterested or lazy in any of the games he played NOR any of the games he was serving his Painter imposed suspension.
 
He looked like a man amongst boys on Saturday. I haven't seen him look disinterested or lazy in any of the games he played NOR any of the games he was serving his Painter imposed suspension.


True for the most part this season. The criticism was more common in past seasons. But I have heard it this year as well.
 
You hear this criticism/complaint quite frequently in the sports world, and college basketball is no exception. So-and-so isn't hustling, so-and-so is being lazy, etc. It seems like the player for Purdue who gets this leveled at them the most is Hammons. He's expected to be really aggressive, so I guess it comes naturally to call him lazy if he's not being as aggressive as we'd like.

I'm a Cleveland Indians fan, and currently reading a book on the Tribe teams of the 90s-- Glory Days in Tribe Town-- co-written by Cleveland Plain Dealer sports writer Terry Pluto, and Indians play-by-play broadcaster Tom Hamilton. Something that Hamilton said in the book really struck me. He was talking about Cleveland Hall of Famer Herb Score who did the play-by-play for the Indians before Hamilton, and with him for a while.

One thing that Score told Hamilton is that he would never call a player out for what looked like a lack of hustle. Because "you never knew what was going on with that player." Having such a longstanding and good relationship with the Indians as first a player, and then a sports caster, Score had plenty of inside knowledge of the organization and players, and had personally known of times where a player was dealing with some minor nagging injury, but was toughing it out and trying to play through it. A lot of time for minor injuries like that, it never becomes public knowledge. One possible reason is because you wouldn't want the opposing team's battery to know that you aren't a threat to steal. Another is that a lot of these players genuinely are tough and don't think such a small injury is worth discussing publicly. But the point is, we just might not know. And despite insider info, Score didn't always know either. So he made a conscious decision never to call a player out for "being lazy" on the air.

I enjoyed reading that, and felt a little convicted with the way that I speak about players sometimes. Again, it seems like Hammons is the one that gets this particular criticism a lot, but applies across the board too. With Hammons, unfortunately I feel like the laziness stereotype has been exacerbated by the look on his face. One of my non-Purdue friends described Hammons as "always looking like he just got out of bed..."

Anyways, just some food for thought.
AJH does always look like he just got out of bed...out of bed and ready to kick some ass.
 
No one ever looked more disinterested in the game than Robert Parrish who was one of the most productive team players of all time. That could be because the Big Chief had been hitting the peace pipe before the game, but, still just because someone plays without displaying a ton of emotion doesn't make them lazy. There was a time when not every basket was celebrated like it was the last shot to win a championship.
 
The thing I like about AJ is he is aggressive when the games are tight. He is called lazy because he puts up 6 points in a game that Purdue won by 30 in. Who cares that he didn't score against a bad team. He let's his teammates in on the fun.
 
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AJH is brilliant......If you see him play he is already a step ahead of the person he is guarding to block a shot and love that he is going up quick this year with his post moves.

He is truly seeing the floor this year and becoming a student of the game, love when him and Painter confirm what he sees and are on same page.

When AJH speaks, he talks fast because he thinks fast..........

He does everything on the inside fast, just has us all fooled on the outside like he doesn't care or love basketball.

He cares, probably more than we will even know...but his teammates and coaches know.

All I care is that he loves Purdue, his coaches and his teammates.

I will predict though he has the shortest senior day speech of anyone, but we will love him the most for it!

Boiler Up and glad he is a Boilermaker for life!
 
No one ever looked more disinterested in the game than Robert Parrish who was one of the most productive team players of all time. That could be because the Big Chief had been hitting the peace pipe before the game, but, still just because someone plays without displaying a ton of emotion doesn't make them lazy. There was a time when not every basket was celebrated like it was the last shot to win a championship.

I actually think that's a great comparison.
 
I have absolutely no issue with AJ. I love the guy and think he is consistently the best player on the team. I only used him as an example because I've heard that criticism from others in the past.

I think the OP applies to any player being called lazy.
 
You hear this criticism/complaint quite frequently in the sports world, and college basketball is no exception. So-and-so isn't hustling, so-and-so is being lazy, etc. It seems like the player for Purdue who gets this leveled at them the most is Hammons. He's expected to be really aggressive, so I guess it comes naturally to call him lazy if he's not being as aggressive as we'd like.

I'm a Cleveland Indians fan, and currently reading a book on the Tribe teams of the 90s-- Glory Days in Tribe Town-- co-written by Cleveland Plain Dealer sports writer Terry Pluto, and Indians play-by-play broadcaster Tom Hamilton. Something that Hamilton said in the book really struck me. He was talking about Cleveland Hall of Famer Herb Score who did the play-by-play for the Indians before Hamilton, and with him for a while.

One thing that Score told Hamilton is that he would never call a player out for what looked like a lack of hustle. Because "you never knew what was going on with that player." Having such a longstanding and good relationship with the Indians as first a player, and then a sports caster, Score had plenty of inside knowledge of the organization and players, and had personally known of times where a player was dealing with some minor nagging injury, but was toughing it out and trying to play through it. A lot of time for minor injuries like that, it never becomes public knowledge. One possible reason is because you wouldn't want the opposing team's battery to know that you aren't a threat to steal. Another is that a lot of these players genuinely are tough and don't think such a small injury is worth discussing publicly. But the point is, we just might not know. And despite insider info, Score didn't always know either. So he made a conscious decision never to call a player out for "being lazy" on the air.

I enjoyed reading that, and felt a little convicted with the way that I speak about players sometimes. Again, it seems like Hammons is the one that gets this particular criticism a lot, but applies across the board too. With Hammons, unfortunately I feel like the laziness stereotype has been exacerbated by the look on his face. One of my non-Purdue friends described Hammons as "always looking like he just got out of bed..."

Anyways, just some food for thought.

Another thing to think about is the "lazy" player who actually is suffering a serious heart condition. Many people thought Jay Simpson was not fulfilling his potential, when really it was something much more ominous than being a bit lazy or out of condition. Glad we got it figured out before it turned into a tragedy.
 
Another thing to think about is the "lazy" player who actually is suffering a serious heart condition. Many people thought Jay Simpson was not fulfilling his potential, when really it was something much more ominous than being a bit lazy or out of condition. Glad we got it figured out before it turned into a tragedy.
I'm just glad that AJ stayed, always thought he was a 4 yr. guy and personally wanted to see what this team would look like w/ him staying.
 
Another thing to think about is the "lazy" player who actually is suffering a serious heart condition. Many people thought Jay Simpson was not fulfilling his potential, when really it was something much more ominous than being a bit lazy or out of condition. Glad we got it figured out before it turned into a tragedy.


Exactly! He literally could have died. It's a real shame that he had to give up the game, but definitely better than the alternative. I know a guy at my church who got diagnosed with the same condition after having played for Wake Forest, then professionally in Brazil, and was in the process of trying out with the Grizzlies. Having to walk away from the game was the hardest thing he's ever had to do...
 
I don't know that he is not interested or lazy adn would never say that. I do think he wasn't focused as much the first half against Pitt as the second. I'm not sure anyone other than maybe Hill was focused the New Mexico game. These guys are young with many distractions going on with them. Coming off the Pitt game I fully expected a step back in focus as turnovers and missed shots attest. Purdue is VERY fortunate AJ came back...and I think AJ will be very happy he did when the season is over. Big guys rarely are as intense as little Napoleons...

For all the areas of the game...AJ provides more than Isaac and can be a game changer...
 
Hammons has looked ready to prove himself this year. I don't ever think it was laziness for him just consistency. He is showing he has more consistent this year and it is helping us win games. He is a constant force on both sides of the ball even if he looks disinterested. He cares and it shows with how he plays and plays consistently great this year.
 
Another thing to think about is the "lazy" player who actually is suffering a serious heart condition. Many people thought Jay Simpson was not fulfilling his potential, when really it was something much more ominous than being a bit lazy or out of condition. Glad we got it figured out before it turned into a tragedy.
Exactly this!!! I still think Dakich owes Jay an apology. Dakich called Jay out really hard on national tv about how lazy he was and the equipment guy was telling him how lazy he is. It was ridiculous. Then, after it came out why Jay practiced and played the way he did was due to a life threatening illness, Dakich never took it back.
 
Exactly this!!! I still think Dakich owes Jay an apology. Dakich called Jay out really hard on national tv about how lazy he was and the equipment guy was telling him how lazy he is. It was ridiculous. Then, after it came out why Jay practiced and played the way he did was due to a life threatening illness, Dakich never took it back.
Dakich has a lazy mind.
 
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Another thing to think about is the "lazy" player who actually is suffering a serious heart condition. Many people thought Jay Simpson was not fulfilling his potential, when really it was something much more ominous than being a bit lazy or out of condition. Glad we got it figured out before it turned into a tragedy.
Even after his health condition was revealed and he was forced to quit basketball, there were some on this board who questioned his commitment for not "overcoming" his condition.
 
a good player doesn't get all excited most of the time when making plays cause that is what they expect from themselves
 
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