Okoro?

[tjreese]

I am failing to understand how this talk of math and work ethic relate to the above quotes about broad based "Asian driving". I did not see anything relating to driving nor who is even included or excluded in your Asian category. This basic inquiry seems to have struck some nerve for you.

But, you apparently know more about myself than even I potentially do. You have indirectly answered my question. It has been quite the learning session.

let me help you again...I mentioned a specific situation...not a broad based episode on driving. I described how that discipline of rule following was at play in that situation and went further to discuss the exemplary results of many Asians in math and that math requires that same discipline of following rules...but apparently none of that registered and so let me try another approach.

Engineers by and large are more socially awkward than many political science majors or Liberal Art majors. Nobody should ever confuse that as an attempt to say that all engineers are more awkward, but generally yes...they sometimes find various conversations puerile in nature that are interesting to people in those areas. Your basic inquiry with Do Dah Day and myself was filled with an attempt to label out comments through political correctness and I hope you are very young for fear that you may be a lost soul if not. It is you that attempted to castigate us and make this more than it should. I just hope it is your youth at play through the programming you have been immersed in the last few years...

 

[Do Dah Day]

it's almost as if people are all just human beings, regardless of race or ethnicity!

Well, let me assure you that SHE felt singled out and treated very differently. She has had a very difficult time in the defense industry due to her skin color and gender. It is what it is.

 

[BoilerDeac]

Well, let me assure you that SHE felt singled out and treated very differently. She has had a very difficult time in the defense industry due to her skin color and gender. It is what it is.

Definitely feel that, and that's not surprising at all. Unfortunate that this was the case.

I hope we can get to the point where we don't have to say "it is what it is." Pretty sad that, as a society, we're only now truly starting to give legitimacy to the fact that women and individuals of color are, too often, singled out/are at a disadvantage in the workplace.

 

[Do Dah Day]

Definitely feel that, and that's not surprising at all. Unfortunate that this was the case.

I hope we can get to the point where we don't have to say "it is what it is." Pretty sad that, as a society, we're only now truly starting to give legitimacy to the fact that women and individuals of color are, too often, singled out/are at a disadvantage in the workplace.

Absolutely

 

[PurdueBtfu2]

let me help you again...I mentioned a specific situation...not a broad based episode on driving. I described how that discipline of rule following was at play in that situation and went further to discuss the exemplary results of many Asians in math and that math requires that same discipline of following rules...but apparently none of that registered and so let me try another approach.

Engineers by and large are more socially awkward than many political science majors or Liberal Art majors. Nobody should ever confuse that as an attempt to say that all engineers are more awkward, but generally yes...they sometimes find various conversations puerile in nature that are interesting to people in those areas. Your basic inquiry with Do Dah Day and myself was filled with an attempt to label out comments through political correctness and I hope you are very young for fear that you may be a lost soul if not. It is you that attempted to castigate us and make this more than it should. I just hope it is your youth at play through the programming you have been immersed in the last few years...

I am unclear how you arrive at those assumptions on a personal level. Again, I am simply trying to clarify what you meant by the original international and Asian driving comments. It appears you chose not to address this specific inquiry directly again. Based on your other indirect dialogue, would it be accurate that you would say "Asians" are "generally bad drivers". Do you believe this to be true?

 

[Nerdberts]

Looks like Francis Okoro was on campus. Blue chipper rated #26. Anyone have any insight on this? I was offline for the last 4 days, so I apologize if this has already been discussed. I know, I know, pay the membership and get the story...

He's all but sealed up for the Illini. UofI will be back in the hunt within a few years. Mark smith and Ayo will be a lethal backcourt.

 

[BoilerAndy]

The conversation began with international (then specifically Asian) references. This then strayed into makes and models of cars and wealth. I was attempting to understand the first comments.

I get the distinct feeling that you are not attempting to understand anything, but instead are attempting to play the role of a social justice warrior.

This reminds me of the thread a while back where IU fans were acknowledging bad behavior by fans at basketball games, and blaming it on the influx of East Coast students. Someone immediately cried "racism!"

 

[BoilerAndy]

Definitely feel that, and that's not surprising at all. Unfortunate that this was the case.

I hope we can get to the point where we don't have to say "it is what it is." Pretty sad that, as a society, we're only now truly starting to give legitimacy to the fact that women and individuals of color are, too often, singled out/are at a disadvantage in the workplace.

I have worked for three multi-national companies with very diverse workforces all the way to the highest executives. I have been around long enough to know this wasn't always the case, but certainly in the past 30 years, equality has been reached in the public sector. Is there data suggesting otherwise? It seems that when people single out discriminatory behavior in the workplace, it is typically in government-related jobs.

 

[PurdueBtfu2]

I get the distinct feeling that you are not attempting to understand anything, but instead are attempting to play the role of a social justice warrior.

This reminds me of the thread a while back where IU fans were acknowledging bad behavior by fans at basketball games, and blaming it on the influx of East Coast students. Someone immediately cried "racism!"

I was trying to understand the original comments, and give the benefit of the doubt from the way I interpreted it. Maybe I have grown old and cranky, but hearing the same old jokes becomes tiresome. What others apparently see as political correctness, I just hope for basic politeness to one another. Especially among Purdue fans.

Whatever long dialogue or justification that followed in the thread, was at least better than being laughed at. If I can make it to a game sometime, I certainly hope my terrible driving puts no one else in danger, nor provides comedic relief.

Enjoy the season.

 

[tjreese]

I am unclear how you arrive at those assumptions on a personal level. Again, I am simply trying to clarify what you meant by the original international and Asian driving comments. It appears you chose not to address this specific inquiry directly again. Based on your other indirect dialogue, would it be accurate that you would say "Asians" are "generally bad drivers". Do you believe this to be true?

let me try this again. what I f'ing said was that the cultural were generally more rule following than we might find in the USA. I showed or attempted to show that the rule following showed up in math success since rules are important in that subject. My example was about an Asian that turned on his light and saw another light not intended for him but for the road he just turned on and intended for the other road...but in his (notice I said his...wasn't a female either), observation of seeing a light overhead quickly stopped due to his rule following. Go to Germany and walk across a street if the light hasn't signalled for you to walk and you may find several people admonish you as well.

Your incessant interest in what Do Dah Day and myself mentioned was to somehow castigate us as racists. I'm about as politically uncorrect as possible, but grew up in a world where lines of demarcation were not stressed, where identity politics were not prevalent and where dumbasses were called out and not provided safe places so they wouldn't have to take finals and such. Candy asses have little in common with me except my desire to understand the dignity every human being has.

This is who my daughter dated for three years before marrying a German from Plauen. I'm guessing he was just a bad driver due to his race.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/edwardyap

 

[Gemini95]

Could you all kindly stfu unless it relates directly to the subject of the thread?

 

[proudopete]

let me try this again. what I f'ing said was that the cultural were generally more rule following than we might find in the USA. I showed or attempted to show that the rule following showed up in math success since rules are important in that subject. My example was about an Asian that turned on his light and saw another light not intended for him but for the road he just turned on and intended for the other road...but in his (notice I said his...wasn't a female either), observation of seeing a light overhead quickly stopped due to his rule following. Go to Germany and walk across a street if the light hasn't signalled for you to walk and you may find several people admonish you as well.

Your incessant interest in what Do Dah Day and myself mentioned was to somehow castigate us as racists. I'm about as politically uncorrect as possible, but grew up in a world where lines of demarcation were not stressed, where identity politics were not prevalent and where dumbasses were called out and not provided safe places so they wouldn't have to take finals and such. Candy asses have little in common with me except my desire to understand the dignity every human being has.

This is who my daughter dated for three years before marrying a German from Plauen. I'm guessing he was just a bad driver due to his race.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/edwardyap

Wtf?

 

[BBG]

 

[PurdueBtfu2]

let me try this again. what I f'ing said was that the cultural were generally more rule following than we might find in the USA. I showed or attempted to show that the rule following showed up in math success since rules are important in that subject. My example was about an Asian that turned on his light and saw another light not intended for him but for the road he just turned on and intended for the other road...but in his (notice I said his...wasn't a female either), observation of seeing a light overhead quickly stopped due to his rule following. Go to Germany and walk across a street if the light hasn't signalled for you to walk and you may find several people admonish you as well.

Your incessant interest in what Do Dah Day and myself mentioned was to somehow castigate us as racists. I'm about as politically uncorrect as possible, but grew up in a world where lines of demarcation were not stressed, where identity politics were not prevalent and where dumbasses were called out and not provided safe places so they wouldn't have to take finals and such. Candy asses have little in common with me except my desire to understand the dignity every human being has.

This is who my daughter dated for three years before marrying a German from Plauen. I'm guessing he was just a bad driver due to his race.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/edwardyap

OK. So the initial comments only describing international driving had underlying meanings of wealth and people who appear to be from "Asia" being terrific "rule followers." Wow, thank you? Strange way to express that initially to say the least.

We had a thread about a basketball recruit with an international background. What would lead to posts making these other negative observations and complaints in the first place? What is the purpose, what is the intent to derail with that negativity?

I said previously that I wished for just general politeness to one another, but those were comments made at the expense of others. I repeatedly tried to understand the reason for the negativity or mockery. It seemed so random, unnecessary, and unrelated. The language and anger expressed later certainly does not convey any intent of politeness nor understanding that I can see.

With that, have a good day, and an even better tomorrow.

 

[PurdueBtfu2]

Could you all kindly stfu unless it relates directly to the subject of the thread?

I sincerely apologize for contributing to the off topic. I certainly do not understand why the original topic had to be derailed with unrelated comments and complaints.

 

[tjreese]

OK. So the initial comments only describing international driving had underlying meanings of wealth and people who appear to be from "Asia" being terrific "rule followers." Wow, thank you? Strange way to express that initially to say the least.

We had a thread about a basketball recruit with an international background. What would lead to posts making these other negative observations and complaints in the first place? What is the purpose, what is the intent to derail with that negativity?

I said previously that I wished for just general politeness to one another, but those were comments made at the expense of others. I repeatedly tried to understand the reason for the negativity or mockery. It seemed so random, unnecessary, and unrelated. The language and anger expressed later certainly does not convey any intent of politeness nor understanding that I can see.

With that, have a good day, and an even better tomorrow.

ya know...if you were not playing dumb then my sincere apologies,but my money says Do Dah Day probably thought the same thing...so again I'm sorry if you were sincere...