Basically if all students are included it's ok. Pitino is contacting adidas right now to see if they'll pay some regular students.
Offer phony classes to all students and it's ok
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You would think that an investigation finding that they offer offer phony courses for all students wouldn't exactly do good things for the image of the university. I can't imagine this sits well with some alumni, professors, and administration at UNC. If there is any justice, Newton's 3rd law will hold and the action of UNC throwing their academics under the bus in order to save their precious basketball program will have an equal and opposite effect on their academic standing.
So basically what I'm hearing from the NCAA is there's no such thing as cheating you could do whatever you want to get a player to come to your school and you can offer those kids retard classes to stay eligible and the cheating is not going to stop
My bad for calling it cheating cuz obviously it's not cheating there's no such thing in college basketball open game to do whatever you want
This will impact Purdue at least to a small degree. There are simply no easy classes at PU ... not a single one. Comm is damn hard, first level math is damn hard, all languages are damn hard (thank gosh for sign language being included as a foreign language, but it's not easy).
Exactly what I expected....only factual hole I see is that if 30% of the athletes in the classes represents the same % of athletes versus the general student population which I doubt seriously is anywhere near 30%, the Athletic Department would have had to provide assistance to finding those classes not offered to the general student population ie an additional benefit...the NCAA was NOT going to come down on a blue blood school that has been doing this since the Dean days.....cheat like hell and hire good lawyers, ignore the findings of an investigation you funded and don't agree with since the NCAA does not have the powers to catch you or get the evidence they need since anyone can just say I will not comply with your investigation and talk! SAD The FBI or government can't help there!
The FBI has no interest in adjudicating or enforcing NCAA rules and regulations, nor should it. If the NCAA wanted to allow D1 athletes not to attend ANY classes, they could legally do so. All the NCAA has to do is find a way to navigate around its own rules to serve its own (financial) interests. The answer is for schools that value academics and in positions of power (are there any left??) to band together and condemn the NCAA.
I doubt he does that lest his own University also be further exposed as the fraud that it is. I'm surprised Trump U doesn't have athletic teams.
Just for a little perspective since people in this thread seem to feel like the IC is a nefarious group of individuals that were intent on protecting UNC.The current head of the IC is Greg Christopher,the AD at Xavier.His background is interesting...
Christopher has been athletics director at Xavier since 2013 and a member of the Committee on Infractions since 2012. A native of West Lafayette, Indiana, Christopher earned a bachelor’s degree in mass communication and a master’s in business administration from Miami (Ohio). He began his career in athletics administration at Purdue, where he worked in communications and fundraising functions, and he was athletics director at Bowling Green for more than six years before taking on his current role at Xavier.
Did you guys get the syllabus for the newly-created advanced aerospace engineering degree program? Passing along if not:
sadly assembling that mother is probably 10x more work than they actually did in their classes. Maybe the student sections should start taking knees...I doubt any of them are on scholarship and getting to take fake classes.Did you guys get the syllabus for the newly-created advanced aerospace engineering degree program? Passing along if not:
Interesting concept. Everybody cheated so nobody cheated. Great work NCAA!
One of the articles I read said 4% of their students are athletes and 60% of the "students" taking the fake courses were athletes.
If I were a North Carolina alum, I would be embarrassed and assaimed of my school and this fake class cheating. I see little remorse at their rivals site. Maybe there are other places with more rational with more rational folks.
Interestingly enough, when the original story first broke like 3 years ago about the fake AFAM program and sham classes, UNC's initial defense was (paraphrasing): "it wasn't unique to athletics, it's not an NCAA violation and it's out of their jurisdiction". Hats off to their legal personnel for nailing that one. They nailed it so well so fast, you start to wonder how much of a head start they had on this...
Long ago I suspected what happened was that a couple non-students found out about the fake classes and basically black-mailed their way into the AFAM program to get a couple easy A's. Now, I'm starting to wonder if UNC found out about the issue, did their homework, and bet hard on their legal team's planned defense by purposefully enrolling a few non-athletes just in case they ever needed to play that defense. I don't like being the conspiracy guy, but it makes a lot of sense.
Long ago I suspected what happened was that a couple non-students found out about the fake classes and basically black-mailed their way into the AFAM program to get a couple easy A's. Now, I'm starting to wonder if UNC found out about the issue, did their homework, and bet hard on their legal team's planned defense by purposefully enrolling a few non-athletes just in case they ever needed to play that defense. I don't like being the conspiracy guy, but it makes a lot of sense.
Let's face it. The only thing an undergrad degree from UNC is good for is getting into grad school at UNC. This isn't going to affect the standing of doctors and lawyers with UNC diplomas. If this was going on at Purdue, where an undergrad degree can get you a good paying job, alumni would be outraged. At UNC, they look at it as a minimal expense of having an elite basketball program.
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