OC will be Terry Malone

[RegionWarrior101]

Have a pretty reliable source who is very close to a recently fired P5 QB coach (whole staff let go). This coach was approached by Purdue for a job in same capacity with no ties to DH or anyone on staff; they reached out to him unsolicited. This leads me to believe Malone will be the play caller and on offense they will replace Shoop with a QB coach.

2 things I found ammusing were 1, that DH said how many people reached out to him about jobs and here Purdue is calling fired people. 2, how this potential coach sees our situation as unstable and is concerned about how long DH and MB will be around.

If you want to see our new look, check out old UM film.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

Have a pretty reliable source who is very close to a recently fired P5 QB coach (whole staff let go). This coach was approached by Purdue for a job in same capacity with no ties to DH or anyone on staff; they reached out to him unsolicited. This leads me to believe Malone will be the play caller and on offense they will replace Shoop with a QB coach.

2 things I found ammusing were 1, that DH said how many people reached out to him about jobs and here Purdue is calling fired people. 2, how this potential coach sees our situation as unstable and is concerned about how long DH and MB will be around.

If you want to see our new look, check out old UM film.

If we are promoting internally, why not announce then? There's no reason to wait during a recruiting period.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

If we are promoting internally, why not announce then? There's no reason to wait during a recruiting period.

I truly believe they thought they would have a bigger pool of qualified candidates; I think they had a list of potential OC they reached out to and struck out. Malone is an experienced guy to take over and will sell us on that.

 

[nat100]

Could also be Parker. Had a year as OC at UT-Martin and they will need to promote him to keep him IMO.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

Could also be Parker. Had a year as OC at UT-Martin and they will need to promote him to keep him IMO.

That is an interesting idea. Maybe do one of those "dual" coordinator deals- Parker "Pass Game" and Malone "Run Game" with one calling the plays.

It is just funny how again we have been lied to. People "lining up" to take the jobs. When Purdue is seeking out other fired people that is desperation.

 

[nat100]

That is an interesting idea. Maybe do one of those "dual" coordinator deals- Parker "Pass Game" and Malone "Run Game" with one calling the plays.

I could see that too. Either way, we would need a QB coach. Probably should have had one while Shoop was here.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Could also be Parker. Had a year as OC at UT-Martin and they will need to promote him to keep him IMO.

Curious as to why you think this, i think we can all agree that he certainly hasn't been a rock star as recruiting coordinator.

 

[nat100]

Make no mistake, Hazell calls the shots on offers, not Parker. Hazell nixed a lot of offers.

Also, he did well with the TEs and the WRs improved under his watch this year. He is a good coach and is well regarded despite what this board thinks.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

Make no mistake, Hazell calls the shots on offers, not Parker. Hazell nixed a lot of offers.

Also, he did well with the TEs and the WRs improved under his watch this year. He is a good coach and is well regarded despite what this board thinks.

Hazell has been poor as a talent evaluator. My honest opinion is that offensively and defensively he has no scheme, nothing he can hang his hat on, which if you have good coordinators and let them do their job, it is not a big deal. Biggest concern after three years is his evaluation of talent. Or he brings in guys with a low ceiling. I don't see much improvement at any position. Also have to wonder how after 3 years we can have a bare cupboard at DB.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

Make no mistake, Hazell calls the shots on offers, not Parker. Hazell nixed a lot of offers.

Also, he did well with the TEs and the WRs improved under his watch this year. He is a good coach and is well regarded despite what this board thinks.

This goes hand in hand with what I have also heard about Hazell nixing many kids that both Shoop and Hudson wanted to offer here in state...Coy Cronk being one of them.

Hazell has been poor as a talent evaluator. My honest opinion is that offensively and defensively he has no scheme, nothing he can hang his hat on, which if you have good coordinators and let them do their job, it is not a big deal. Biggest concern after three years is his evaluation of talent. Or he brings in guys with a low ceiling. I don't see much improvement at any position. Also have to wonder how after 3 years we can have a bare cupboard at DB.

I think this is a problem that hasn't really been stated yet. Everyone is calling for Shoop and Hudson as the main issue and I'm not saying they weren't a major part of the problem. However, I think it could very well be more likely that Hazell is a micro-manager and wants to call the shots on each and every aspect of the program instead of giving his subordinates the freedom to make decisions and have the ability to not just make a mistake but grow and learn from it. Hazell just strikes me as a guy who micromanages.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

I think this is a problem that hasn't really been stated yet. Everyone is calling for Shoop and Hudson as the main issue and I'm not saying they weren't a major part of the problem. However, I think it could very well be more likely that Hazell is a micro-manager and wants to call the shots on each and every aspect of the program instead of giving his subordinates the freedom to make decisions and have the ability to not just make a mistake but grow and learn from it. Hazell just strikes me as a guy who micromanages.

Hudson and Shoop got blamed because we could afford paying them $350,000 or whatever to go away. We cannot afford to pay the $6 Million Dollar Man to go away.

 

[FearTheTrain]

I don't think his evaluation of talent has been all that poor. The linebackers and offensive line are drastically improved. Markell is a beast, and the jury is still out on Blough/ Sindelar. Wide receivers have shown brief moments. I think Hope was able to put together a strong secondary, and while that has taken a step back, isn't in terrible shape now. The D line is adequate when compared to Hope without Kerrigan.

My biggest complaint is why hit the JUCO market strong now and not when he took over the program? Instead of coaching that BS bowl game, he should have been trying to get immediate playing-ready athletes to address the talent issues the previous staff left. Hitting the JUCO market now seems an act of desperation and mismanaging his first 3 recruiting classes. For an example, how many RBs are on scholarship now from the past few years just to see Jones and Knox get a 65/35% roll (I fully support them getting all the PT though)?

Getting back to the point of this thread, I hope Malone does not get the OC position. I'm not sure who the other candidates are, but I do like the idea of Parker.

 

[ghostoffatjack]

Offensive line improved....I must have watched the wrong team this past season!

 

[nat100]

OL was mostly Hope recruits.

AS for Juco, agree that it is an act of desperation. Most take a year to learn the system and then blossom in their second year. He may (hopefully) be gone by then

 

[nat100]

Offensive line improved....I must have watched the wrong team this past season!

They improved from where they were when Bridge took over.

The line run blocked well. it was hit and miss on pass blocking. Still played well enough to win at least 5.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

They improved from where they were when Bridge took over.

The line run blocked well. it was hit and miss on pass blocking. Still played well enough to win at least 5.

Agree. This was our best OL in several years.

 

[FearTheTrain]

On a semi-unrelated note, how did they convince a kid to decommit from San Diego State? I can't think of a city I'd rather live in for free for a few years..

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

On a semi-unrelated note, how did they convince a kid to decommit from San Diego State? I can't think of a city I'd rather live in for free for a few years..

This is why, for the life of me, I can't imagine why Hawaii isn't good at football. They don't play in a terrible conference (WAC) and who would turn down a free ride in that place for 4 or 5 years. Then again, it is super far away and similar weather in located in the Southeast and West Coast...but living in Hawaii would be a super big draw for me personally.

 

[nat100]

On a semi-unrelated note, how did they convince a kid to decommit from San Diego State? I can't think of a city I'd rather live in for free for a few years..

He is from Detroit.

 

[Bippus33]

JY and LB were very successful with Juco players!!!!

 

[ghostoffatjack]

Focus your attention to our right tackles throughout the season if you have kept any of the videos...they consistently missed assignments and gave up sacks at the worst times in games we could have won. Who outside of Nebraska did we dominate in the LOS? Who was our 1,000 rusher this past year in 12 games? How many sacks and QB knock downs did the O Line give up this season? Like I mentioned I must have watched a different team then you' all! I can't think of a worse O Line in the B1G this past season!

 

[New Pal Boiler]

They improved from where they were when Bridge took over.

The line run blocked well. it was hit and miss on pass blocking. Still played well enough to win at least 5.

In my opinion, we could never run the ball when we had to. Sure we popped some long runs here and there, but how many 3rd and 2s did we pick up in the B1G with the running game? Less than 40% I would bet.

 

[echs86]

You can't say that you had the talent on the OL to win 5 games when you won 2! Shoop is not
responsible for an OL that wasn't very good.

 

[Bigohh]

You can't say that you had the talent on the OL to win 5 games when you won 2! Shoop is not
responsible for an OL that wasn't very good.

Agree our OL was average at best for an experienced group that was touted at the beginning of the year as a real strength. Seemed to me that in addition to our problems at RT previously noted, we had guys continually pass up a block at the point of attack to be looking downfield to block a cheer leader while our runner was stopped for nada or a minimal gain. Pass blocking was also very inconsistent.

 

[ahhculdee]

This is why, for the life of me, I can't imagine why Hawaii isn't good at football. They don't play in a terrible conference (WAC) and who would turn down a free ride in that place for 4 or 5 years. Then again, it is super far away and similar weather in located in the Southeast and West Coast...but living in Hawaii would be a super big draw for me personally.

Apparently their budget is tight, the facilities aren't very good, so the distance on top of that makes for a worse than Purdue situation.

 

[PaBoiler78]

On a semi-unrelated note, how did they convince a kid to decommit from San Diego State? I can't think of a city I'd rather live in for free for a few years..

hopefully they can convince that WR from Bowling Green to flip.

 

[nat100]

You can't say that you had the talent on the OL to win 5 games when you won 2! Shoop is not
responsible for an OL that wasn't very good.

Line wasnt the reason they lost to Marshall, BGSU, MSU, or IU. Ass brained head coaching lost those games.

 

[lbodel]

Apparently their budget is tight, the facilities aren't very good, so the distance on top of that makes for a worse than Purdue situation.

Nice weather and beaches do not equal winning. First off, the area around UH is not that great and Honolulu is not your typical Hawaii at all - it's a very large city, horrible traffic, run down areas, etc.

Secondly, on top of being far from home/family that may struggle to come see you play, it's a TON of travel yourself. Having to go on such long road trips for away games would be miserable.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

Agree our OL was average at best for an experienced group that was touted at the beginning of the year as a real strength. Seemed to me that in addition to our problems at RT previously noted, we had guys continually pass up a block at the point of attack to be looking downfield to block a cheer leader while our runner was stopped for nada or a minimal gain. Pass blocking was also very inconsistent.

Average is a huge improvement over what we had. This was the first year we could reliably throw downfield with time in the pocket.

 

[boilerdug]

This is why, for the life of me, I can't imagine why Hawaii isn't good at football. They don't play in a terrible conference (WAC) and who would turn down a free ride in that place for 4 or 5 years. Then again, it is super far away and similar weather in located in the Southeast and West Coast...but living in Hawaii would be a super big draw for me personally.

Do you realize what it would cost you to go home for a weekend? What parent would get to see their kid play more than once a year unless they lived there?? It would cost more in travel than what the scholarship is worth.
As a friend of mine once told me....it's a nice place to visit but you don't want to live there.

 

[Like_a_Boss]

Curious as to why you think this, i think we can all agree that he certainly hasn't been a rock star as recruiting coordinator.

Exactly, I heard from folks close to recruiting in the Indy area that Parker is a jack@ss and is hurting the Purdue brand in the market closest to it.

 

[BoilerBF]

Exactly, I heard from folks close to recruiting in the Indy area that Parker is a jack@ss and is hurting the Purdue brand in the market closest to it.

Purdue players have a vastly different opinion of Parker than you. He is a highly respected coach. In addition recruits seem to be constantly talking about Parker and Freeman.

 

[Grover]

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[ahhculdee]

More of the same. Pretty much confirms Hazell is gone after next season. Don't know why they didn't do this mid-season.

 

[FearTheTrain]

Nice work Region- whoever your source was, thanks for letting us know a while ago.

I really don't like this move, but I agree, it shows DH is done after next year (barring a miracle). Everyone on this board should start rooting against A&M immediately.

 

[FirstDownB]

It's funny. This is the move you'd expect if Purdue had a great season and the rock star OC moved on to a head coaching gig somewhere else. Promote the next guy up who "collaborated" with the former OC with the hopes of maintaining status quo.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

And Lester as QB coach? It doesn't seem like he lit the world on fire at Syracuse.

I assume Freeman is probably the DC then?

 

[indyogb]

Having no knowledge of the inner workings of the athletic department or football team, my initial reaction is along the lines of "they couldn't find anyone to take the job". Of course, given the level of cynicism that's set in with Purdue football, anything short of them hiring Don Coryell for OC was probably going to be a little disappointing.

 

[Travisty13]

Karl Malone's nickname is The Mailman. May as well start calling Terry Malone "The Postman", cause it looks like we're going to be mailing it in this season. On to 2017.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

Agree it is an uninspiring promotion. I thought there were "piles of resumes" with a phone ringing "off the hook." You hire the guy down the hall. Move that probably should have been made last year. Also like how it is announced on the slowest news week of the year on a day of a big basketball game to slip through the cracks.