I'm still looking for the healthcare part. Or is your claim that since he led in industry he must have led in all industries?? Pretty sure none of the top groups listed in 08 had jack squat to do with healthcare and insurance. Your own article certainly doesn't list it as a major contributor. Wanna try again?
lol no, you didn't.
lol you aren't very good at this:
1. Last I checked, Bernie was actively campaigning for the SDs to come to him. So not sure how you can actively campaign for a group to side with you, then complain when folks list them as they currently stand.
They werent the sole contributes to his campaign, which is how he got elected, and I don't know, and you don't know, how beholding he felt to those who contributed, but man o man did health insurers get a gift.
There weren't even top five contributors. The health insurance industry, thanks to Purdue97's research, gave less than 1 million dollars to his campaign. In fact, given it was around 750 thousand, and he raised around 750 million, that makes it one tenth of one percent of his contributions.
Okay, have it your way, Obams wasn't influenced by special interest and could have easily gotten something better but didn't, K. IMHO Obama is just an idiot then for having handed Americans health care to an industry that does everything in it's power to maximize premiums while minimizing claims. I was at least giving him some credit for politics as it's currently played.
1. I didn't say Obama was never influenced by any special interest. I said he wasn't influenced by THIS special interest. I even allowed that an argument could be made he was influenced by special interest on the bank bailout...or heck, the auto bailout too.
Well, he's not a Democrat. He's said himself the only reason he became one was because it was the only viable path to the Presidency for him. He's still listed in paperwork for his 2018 senate run as an independent. He'll drop the D not too long after the election is over, if not before.
1) IMO, saying he wasn't influenced by insurers, makes him look clueless.
There is a difference between "explain the bill" and "work together on it". But have a good thread. Clearly it's out of hand...
so a bipartisan committee that met 31 times, and the fact that there were 160 Republican amendments accepted wasn't working together, it was just explaining?
Sanders has won 7 of the last 8 contests. If it weren't for the Democrats rigged system (using Superdelegates to allow the establishment to put their thumb on the scales and effectively nullify the votes of the common folk), Hillary would absolutely be in a brawl for the nomination. The energy is with Sanders. Many of the Obama block are disenchanted with the Clintocracy and will sit out this election cycle if Clinton does win the nomination.
Not one Republican voted for Obamacare. It was ramrodded down the throats of the nation with entirely one party supporting it. It is the largest entitlement program to come around since Social Security (FDR) and the biggest governmental change since LBJ's horrendous "War on Poverty".
I don't know, you bolded one, and maybe that was the biggest problem, and goes back to my original post. He THOUGHT something would work. Again, my opinion, it was too early into his Presidency to have done anything of this magnitude based on what he THOUGHT might work. Get some time in the job and maybe he has a better understanding, hell maybe go so far as he could have KNOWN, how to get close to exactly what he wanted, whatever that may have been.
As much as I disagree with qaz on ACA, these over the top statemenus make no sense unless you qualify who benefits from this so called "entitlement program." If you me corporate entitlement program for insurers, I agree, but if you're trying to imply ACA is some social welfare program, come on. And that Republicans didn't vote for it is politics, not an indication they are dissatisfied, they got what they wanted, Heath care basically privatized from the jump. All there huffing and puffing about overturning it was theater, nothing more.
No. The Republicans did not want Obamacare. Nancy Pelosi famously said "But we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it..." Congress didn't even have time to review the 11,000 pages of this monstrosity of an act. It was ramrodded down the throats of the American people and the majority of Congress before they even had time to review it. No major piece of legislation should be approved in this manner, especially one for which the consequences are so important.
See, this is the problem with politics today, propaganda is viewed as reality.
No. Hillary won five in a row in Super Tuesday. There is little such thing as momentum. She's about to win a string here again. The "Obama block" is voting for Hillary. The youth and the white vote (the latter was actually the "Hillary Block" in 08) are voting for Sanders. She has 2.4 million more votes, and 200+ more pledged delegates which is larger than ANY lead Obama had in 08.
Obama out raised McCain in ALL areas by a lot of money. And, again, finance is not health insurance...regular insurance is not health insurance...doctors and nurses are not health insurance. When it came to ACTUAL health insurance companies, it was less than 1/10th of 1 percent of his overall fundraising.
How many people on this board are counting down the days until Morgan Burkes retirement? Waiting for change after years of missed expectations? There is nothing wrong with that. Nasty attitude? Damned right! When someone in a position fails the people they are accountable to they should hear about it.
Morgan Burkes job isn't as important as Barack Obamas.My point is that politics has become so toxic in this country that I don't think any President will get much respect anymore .That's sad...
