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Now that we know the fate of DH2 Who would you go after?

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I am going straight wildcard. We Call up Jim Bob Cooter, OC Detroit Lions. Guy has a solid background working as an offensive assistant for the Colts, Manning got him in at Denver after Caldwell was fired. He then went to Detroit as the QB coach when caldwell was hired there. Fox who worked with him at denver wanted to interview him for the Offensive coordinator, but detroit denied their request. Last year Detroit fired their OC and replaced him with Jim Bob and their offensive output greatly improved.
 
I am going straight wildcard. We Call up Jim Bob Cooter, OC Detroit Lions. Guy has a solid background working as an offensive assistant for the Colts, Manning got him in at Denver after Caldwell was fired. He then went to Detroit as the QB coach when caldwell was hired there. Fox who worked with him at denver wanted to interview him for the Offensive coordinator, but detroit denied their request. Last year Detroit fired their OC and replaced him with Jim Bob and their offensive output greatly improved.
I've never had season tickets and would buy them if Cooter came here. Brilliant. Because we have multiple problems (DUH!). One is recruiting NOW, one is filling seats NOW, and one is competing with a FUN-TO-WATCH product. We need to create a team that is fun to play on and fun to watch. That's why Les Miles is not a great fit for our needs. Light things up. I'll pay to watch that.
 
I disagree with the title of this thread. It ain't over 'til it's over. I'd not be surprised to see DH2 back for next year.
 
I think that when MB2 took this job, he realized that there was a strong possibility that he would have to deal with staffing changes for the football program this year.

It looks like that he will make a move before the end of the season.
 
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If Hazell is back next year then Purdue does not care about their football program .

All I can say is today was one helllll of a humiliation. There should be firings in a big way. Purdue is averaging over 1 million dollars in coaching salary PER WIN under this guy with absolutely ZERO improvement. Same missed field goals inside the 25 everytime, same absolutely foolish stupid play, same headless blindfolded QB play, and fat out of shape athletes all over the field. Slow, fat, sloppy, unathletic, weak, and if that's after 4 years I'd hate to see where Purdue is in 6 years. I hate having to fire coaches. But it's their job to put competitive teams out there. This team can't do anything.
 
I disagree with the title of this thread. It ain't over 'til it's over. I'd not be surprised to see DH2 back for next year.
It's over...it was over before it started.

Not just the worst coach in Purdue history (which is hardly glorious), but hands down one of the worst coaches ever in college football.

There is absolutely ZERO chance that he returns next year, and a slim (unfortunate that it is only slim) chance that does not return next week (as he does not deserve to).
 
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So you think Hazell doesn't care about winning? Tell me more...

That that he doesn't care about winning, but show me a coach who deep down hates to lose and sits on the sidelines for four years and shows absolutely no fire or passion. When making a field goal to take the lead against Nevada leads to your biggest reaction and is commented as such by commentators and your own play by play guys...is pathetic.
 
There is no reason at this point to keep DH2 around. The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results. We know what we are going to get with him, and it's not good. Do SOMETHING.

Give Malone the reigns and give Freeman the freedom on defense and move away from the stupid 4-2-5
 
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DH2 is simply over his head as a HC. He may make a great assistant coach somewhere but he does not have what it takes to be a HC in the B1G.

This game has shown that there is no improvement after 4 years. Next week and the week after that will echo this assessment. I predict DH2 will be shown the door on a Sunday afternoon. Will it be tomorrow?

Stay tuned......
 
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I've always enjoyed your unbounded optimism but this guy is in way over his head. I wanted him to be the right choice but he clearly isn't. Markel Jones and Jake Repogle could play in other B1G programs. Not many others. That's on Hazell. Pull the trigger.
I'm done with him too. But I see no value in firing him now. I honestly don't think it matters.
 
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The fact that he is back this year was more than enough evidence that it does not care about their football program.
This isn't t true.

He was only back so MBs successor could hire the new coach. You weren't going to attract a good AD candidate here if they didn't have say over the next football hire and their own legacy. When we aren't mathmatically bowl eligible, I believe we will make a change.

Until then, try not to kill yourselves.
 
I'm done with him too. But I see no value in firing him now. I honestly don't think it matters.
That is where many of us think this sentiment is wrong. Firing now will honestly win MBob a ton of respect and leeway for years, especially if the next HC turns out less than expected...and honestly I think most of us aren't expecting much at this point anyway. Firing now shows the alumni and the current team that the AD gives a damn about what they think and feel and wants to make a crappy situation better...which is a total flip from the previous AD. Until that point (and if he waits too long), the sentiment will start to set in that MBob is Morgue2.0
 
This isn't t true.

He was only back so MBs successor could hire the new coach. You weren't going to attract a good AD candidate here if they didn't have say over the next football hire and their own legacy. When we aren't mathmatically bowl eligible, I believe we will make a change.

Until then, try not to kill yourselves.
Bowl eligible...hard to think of when a more ridiculous phrase was uttered in the same sentence as Purdue football, although suggesting in the very next sentence that anybody would consider Purdue football and/or DH cause for suicide sure is close, as there is nobody at this point that remotely cares about either near enough to even give a damn, never mind lose sleep over it.

MB should not have been back...MB being back indeed secured DH being back, but both should have absolutely been gone a year ago...no reason DH should have got to stay another year just so as to appease MB, especially given that MB made the mistake in hiring him to begin with.
 
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Bowl eligible...hard to think of when a more ridiculous phrase was uttered in the same sentence as Purdue football, although suggesting in the very next sentence that anybody would consider Purdue football and/or DH cause for suicide sure is close, as there is nobody at this point that remotely cares about either near enough to even give a damn, never mind lose sleep over it.

MB should not have been back...MB being back indeed secured DH being back, but both should have absolutely been gone a year ago...no reason DH should have got to stay another year just so as to appease MB, especially given that MB made the mistake in hiring him to begin with.

You have to be a miserable old man.

If you hate Purdue sports so much, why come here? I get that there's not much positive, especially the football program but you and a few other posters are literally a black hole on this board. You suck the life out of it and you don't care who else you drag down.
 
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Charlie Strong
Les Miles
Brent Venebles

I'm done with up and comers from mid-major leagues. We need a proven head coach or a coordinator from a big-time program like when Houston hired Herman. Sorry PJ Fleck and Brock Spack
 
Charlie Strong
Les Miles
Brent Venebles

I'm done with up and comers from mid-major leagues. We need a proven head coach or a coordinator from a big-time program like when Houston hired Herman. Sorry PJ Fleck and Brock Spack
Fired
Fired
Not a better choice than Fleck


There's a big difference between what Hazell did at a MAC school and what Fleck has done. If you don't see that, you don't understand what makes a football coach good. Suggesting a fallen star, a 63 year old has been and a career coordinator over a proven CEO and leader..
 
You have to be a miserable old man.

If you hate Purdue sports so much, why come here? I get that there's not much positive, especially the football program but you and a few other posters are literally a black hole on this board. You suck the life out of it and you don't care who else you drag down.


Ok, 50-7 with a backup QB eventually playing. We were shut out and destroyed. What it was, was mercy and taking the foot off the gas. And this is Maryland. Hazell has had time. It's over. Bobinski could pull us out of the B1G and put us in the MAC and we may not see a .500 season. Yes, it's that bad. Asking us Alumni to buy season tickets is asinine right now.
 
The fact that he is back this year was more than enough evidence that it does not care about their football program.

The reason he was back is heavily because Purdue found itself stuck in an AD transition. They probably were hoping that the football team would come around with Hazell and in the meantime, did nothing to start transitioning Burke out (even regardless of what you think of him, he was at that age). So then things were getting worse and Burke was still there - so they started his transition plan, which realistically takes a year and threw away this season. I don't care what you think of Burke or anything, but that person in Burke's position wasn't going to hire Purdue's next coach and then retire a few months later. That's just not how it works.

So it was bad personnel management from the top that heavily contributed to Purdue's situation.
 
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Charlie Strong
Les Miles
Brent Venebles

I'm done with up and comers from mid-major leagues. We need a proven head coach or a coordinator from a big-time program like when Houston hired Herman. Sorry PJ Fleck and Brock Spack

Strong isn't leaving Texas and if you can't win there, you can't win here. Les Miles...no thank you. I get that he has two national title games and won a ton of games but he just doesn't seem like he would be a good fit. How much of it was him being successful recruiting and how much of it was LSU being the major player in a very talent rich state and being in the SEC West.

Give me a guy like Major Applewhite who is young and wants to prove he can turn the program around to skip to a bigger job. At this point, I want a coach who has aspirations and will push the program forward. Look at MSU 20 years ago and let it be ok that coaches move on because that means your program is trending up.
 
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I am going straight wildcard. We Call up Jim Bob Cooter, OC Detroit Lions. Guy has a solid background working as an offensive assistant for the Colts, Manning got him in at Denver after Caldwell was fired. He then went to Detroit as the QB coach when caldwell was hired there. Fox who worked with him at denver wanted to interview him for the Offensive coordinator, but detroit denied their request. Last year Detroit fired their OC and replaced him with Jim Bob and their offensive output greatly improved.

And to answer your question, I know it won't be popular - but I'd rather have a defensive guy. There aren't many success stories in the Big Ten with cute-sy offenses.

I'm not saying we need to abandon our offense by any means, but I think with the horrible talent level we currently have, the best way to transition this program is on the defensive end. Look at IU - they've been trying to transition with just offense for numerous years now and they've certainly improved, but still are doing it in very small baby steps.

Transition the program into something respectable with defense then your offensive tradition will carry you through to the next steps.
 
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Not a better choice than Fleck


There's a big difference between what Hazell did at a MAC school and what Fleck has done. If you don't see that, you don't understand what makes a football coach good. Suggesting a fallen star, a 63 year old has been and a career coordinator over a proven CEO and leader..

So everyone who doesn't agree with you is a football idiot that clearly doesn't understand the game - maybe you should be the only one who posts on this board to educate us simpletons. Thanks for your brilliance.
 
Les Miles is this year's Mark Richt - except he is a better recruiter and has actually won some big games.

Charlie Strong is a really good coach but is not a good fit at Texas. I think the good ol' boys want him gone. We would be really lucky to get him if he is available.
 
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And to answer your question, I know it won't be popular - but I'd rather have a defensive guy. There aren't many success stories in the Big Ten with cute-sy offenses.

I'm not saying we need to abandon our offense by any means, but I think with the horrible talent level we currently have, the best way to transition this program is on the defensive end. Look at IU - they've been trying to transition with just offense for numerous years now and they've certainly improved, but still are doing it in very small baby steps.

Transition the program into something respectable with defense then your offensive tradition will carry you through to the next steps.

I agree with the defensive mindset. I know most on here want high octane offenses, but I just want wins. I think focusing on hard nosed d is a quicker way to those wins.
 
The Purdue head coaching job has to be a real plum! You get $2 million a year and are assured 4 or 5 years of employment whether you win any games or not, just as Hazell has done. You accumulated a nice nest egg and never have to work again unless you want to!
 
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I agree with the defensive mindset. I know most on here want high octane offenses, but I just want wins. I think focusing on hard nosed d is a quicker way to those wins.

I think it's a lot harder to "coach up" defense than offense.

You get a coach with a great offensive system at Purdue and I think they'll score a lot of points with average talent. You get a coach with a great defensive system and I still think they'll struggle with average talent. Defense is more about talent and athleticism. Offense is about putting your players in the right position and match ups to be successful.

A great system for your offense and recruit your defense.
 
**** defense with a rusty knife. Very few nonblue bloods get started by doing hard nose defense. Nonblue bloods become relevant by scoring points. Points on the board put butts in the seats. You know why les miles was fired? His offense sucked big donkey balls. You know why tiller was successful at purdue because he put points on the board even against the big boys. Once he stopped doing that he stopped winning.

We are in a shithole of a talent situation. Indiana is historical crap. We have multiple good to great schools (MSU, UM, ND, OSU, Lville, etc, etc) with in 200 miles of us. No matter how you look at it we will most certainly get the leftovers of the midwest. You know what purdue can still sell, It somehow still sells quaterbacks. Idk how we get these kids to keep coming but for some reason they love the idea of bringing the cradle back.

Face it people Purdue on average is a mediocre football school. We aren't in a desirable location. We aren't the IT school in the state. Danny Hopes failure wasn't that he only won 6 games, its that he did it in the most boring way possible. Getting roflstomped by the big boys and beating up on the shit schools. The only way we are going to beat the big boys is playing by our own rules.
 
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