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No Luck in Indy

1. How many people would be willing to crushed by Kerrigan or balled stomped by Suh even after earning enough money to set their children up for life.
2. How many people would choose to train with the rigors required of a professional athlete and endure that travel schedule even after earning enough money to buy a small Caribbean island.
So you've gone from wheel chair to who would be willing to get hit by DE's. Big difference. Luck is as big as DE's and gets paid crap loads of money to be a qb.
 
So you've gone from wheel chair to who would be willing to get hit by DE's. Big difference. Luck is as big as DE's and gets paid crap loads of money to be a qb.
Sorry for the backpedaling and misinformation I must have sounded like a real Trump. What I meant to to say is “we should boo him because he’s a Loser. Indianapolis is getting a new offensive line and it’s going to be Great the Biggest offensive line there ever was and Andrew Luck is going to pay for it. Is that better?
 
1. How many people would be willing to crushed by Kerrigan or balled stomped by Suh even after earning enough money to set their children up for life.
2. How many people would choose to train with the rigors required of a professional athlete and endure that travel schedule even after earning enough money to buy a small Caribbean island.
Kind of puts guys like Tom Brady and Drew Brees in perspective doesn’t it
 
Sorry for the backpedaling and misinformation I must have sounded like a real Trump. What I meant to to say is “we should boo him because he’s a Loser. Indianapolis is getting a new offensive line and it’s going to be Great the Biggest offensive line there ever was and Andrew Luck is going to pay for it. Is that better?
Having a conversation about Luck quitting and you inject Trump? I wish you would've just told me were a Trump obsessed fool. I wouldn't have bothered responding to you in the first place.
 
I mean the boos came from a state of shock. You see him on the sideline during a game, in his prime, during a year where they can win a super bowl, with alcohol probably in your system, he’s on the sideline, and then read the news on your phone or get a text about it. Did anyone really expect for everyone to get up and clap? Yea it sucks but most of those people will go home and understand the decision.
I am very embarrassed by these few Colts fans. I agree with you about the effect alcohol may have had but I think local sports writers had been praising the talent on this team as a potential Super Bowl team and setting fan expectations a little too high. They have repeatedly claimed the offensive line has been fixed. I'm not convinced and I think Brisset will have to scramble to keep from getting killed. Personally, I think Kelly may be the big surprise and may emerge as the Colts qb of the near future if he can keep his nose clean. I'm still not convinced that Jacoby is of starter quality. Hope I'm wrong.
 
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Jake Plummer 2005 Pro-Bowler broke a couple of Elway’s single season records in Denver and then 2007 retired at like 31 or 32. Unless you were talking about Jeff George...jk.
 
Jake Plummer 2005 Pro-Bowler broke a couple of Elway’s single season records in Denver and then 2007 retired at like 31 or 32. Unless you were talking about Jeff George...jk.

Eh. Jake Plummer’s best season was 4,000 yards and 29 TD’s and that was by far his best season. I think he was about done anyway.
 
Eh. Jake Plummer’s best season was 4,000 yards and 29 TD’s and that was by far his best season. I think he was about done anyway.
Dude he had that 4,000 yard 29 TD season at like 30 years old. Hardly meh. That is statistically better than Joe Montana’s best season. Plays one more year then he’s just like over it!
 
Dude he had that 4,000 yard 29 TD season at like 30 years old. Hardly meh. That is statistically better than Joe Montana’s best season. Plays one more year then he’s just like over it!

What I’m saying is that he had many seasons before that one that were much less impressive-there was nothing to suggest that he would have continued anything close to that. If I recall correctly the consensus on him was that he could throw a great deep ball but wasn’t accurate enough on shorter passes and did not have a reputation for coming up clutch. Did I come pretty close? Even Derek Anderson had 1 good pro-bowl season. We all know that the passing game changed a lot from the Montana era to the Manning era so comparing 1 Plummer season to Montana is not fair. Pretty sure Montana was known for playing his best in the playoffs anyway.
 
Dude...Andrew Luck owes you nothing.

If that's the case then the fans also Andrew Luck nothing. I think a little understanding on both sides would help here. The Colts, once again, mismanaged the situation. They should have made the announcement and held the press conference *before* the game. Almost no one would 'boo' him once they knew the whole situation. He'd get a "hero's" goodbye and I wouldn't have to listen to sanctimonious preaching from all corners about how wrong it was to let the guy leave on that note (because it's all about me :D).
 
He should have announced this in the off-season or made it through one last season. This is a really bad way to end his career. He'll just remember being booed and ruining the Colts entire season and likely setting them several years back.
 
Let's be real here, Luck was never going to play this season because he sprains/pulls/breaks something when he gets sneezed on. So I get why he chose to end it.

I'm not a dolts fan, but him retiring is a good thing for them really because now they can go get a less fragile QB.
 
That was very mature. So a guy “hangs it up“ so that one day he can carry his grandchildren through a park or down the hallway of his house without the assistance of others? And all the sudden it matters “how you feel“ about it? I think the one that needs to go screw themselves as you. You have no idea all of the other “failed diagnosis“ that I’m going on with Andrew luck related to the shoulder and other injuries we will never know about.
The NFL is a violent game and any player can retire anytime, These injuries are not about one ankle injury or one concussion or one shoulder injury it’s about the compilation of injuries since they began playing as a young teenager. Put yourself in their shoes instead of being selfish.
One of my cousins was a three-time All-American in the late 90s in college as a linebacker. You could’ve played in the NFL but his shoulders had been injured one too many times from all of the violet hits he put on running back’s so he opted not to even go to the combine. That’s life when you choose your family over your career.
 
He retired 2 weeks before the season when he has had this injury for months. You don’t think he deserves some boos for setting the team back several years at least?
No, not really. Not until the Colts offer up more information on what they weren’t telling everyone. It’s a violent game, man. Sometimes “it’s time to hang it up” don’t you think he would have Not retired if the compilation of injuries wasn’t as great as it is most likely? We’ll never really know all the injuries he has sustained in his career, but obviously when you’re trying to ‘plant and throw’ And your ankles have been torn up to the point that doctors misdiagnosed a high ankle sprain it must be pretty bad. Don’t forget these guys were getting their ankle is twisted back in junior high by defense of lineman trying to “take them out of the game”.
 
Let's be real here, Luck was never going to play this season because he sprains/pulls/breaks something when he gets sneezed on. So I get why he chose to end it.

I'm not a dolts fan, but him retiring is a good thing for them really because now they can go get a less fragile QB.

In Luck’s defense, he isn’t fragile. He took more hard hits than other QBs. The reason? Absolutely terrible coaching and GM putting a laughable offensive line in front of the franchise QB.

Luck always held onto the ball too late and took unnecessary hits and he was not good at sliding. It should have been fixed right away, but it wasn’t. Luck should have had surgery in 2015, instead he played an entire season injured (2016). All of that is on Pagano.

Grigson ignored the offensive line even after it was pointed out year after year. Not to mention he failed pick after pick.

For the surgery, he chose a surgeon that hadn’t done that particular surgery before (was heavily criticized for it) and he suffered a set back. Then there was the snowboarding incident. Now his ankle is hurt and nobody knows when or how but it seemed to come out of the blue. The Colts have a big portion of the blame but so does Luck.

He has a kid coming and $100 million dollars. I don’t blame him one bit for retiring and he has every right to do so. But, everything was lined up for a Super Bowl year. Then he retires game 3 of the preseason? After there was video of him moving and smiling while throwing from last week? After being lied to at the start of the 2017 season?

Colt’s fans have every right to be mad. More so at the Colts organization than anything. For years folks were saying Luck was being wasted and Irsay held on to Grigson and Pagano way too long.

These aren’t secrets. It’s a timeline of failures by the organization, former coaches, former GM, and Luck himself.

I wish him the best of Luck and as I mentioned earlier, real football starts Friday.
 
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That was very mature. So a guy “hangs it up“ so that one day he can carry his grandchildren through a park or down the hallway of his house without the assistance of others? And all the sudden it matters “how you feel“ about it? I think the one that needs to go screw themselves as you. You have no idea all of the other “failed diagnosis“ that I’m going on with Andrew luck related to the shoulder and other injuries we will never know about.
The NFL is a violent game and any player can retire anytime, These injuries are not about one ankle injury or one concussion or one shoulder injury it’s about the compilation of injuries since they began playing as a young teenager. Put yourself in their shoes instead of being selfish.
One of my cousins was a three-time All-American in the late 90s in college as a linebacker. You could’ve played in the NFL but his shoulders had been injured one too many times from all of the violet hits he put on running back’s so he opted not to even go to the combine. That’s life when you choose your family over your career.
I guess those thoughts weren't in his mind when he signed that huge extension contract when he was already injured.
 
Luck said he was mentally exhausted from the cycle of injury and then rehab. He never said that his cumulative injuries were so bad that he could no longer play. He said it wasn't fun any more
 
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I mean it’s weird to call out fans who boo about this yet media, the NFL, and owners make billions off dollars off those same fans. For people to be so invested to support these teams, shell out millions of dollars for cities to finance stadiums, there is a big investment both financially and emotionally into these trans and their success. I don’t think it’s its that weird that people boo. Without fans these guys make no money because billionaires wouldn’t own treats if they didn’t make money. Shit, there are many other jobs that people work that destroy their bodies and they are paid shit and companies don’t give s damn. Basically, it’s no big deal that the fans booed. I get it.
"TOUCHE"!
 
It is interesting that the Colts have chosen to pay Luck $20M that they could recoup from his contract. Makes me wonder if there is a play here to give him a year or two off for some R&R and try to bring him out of retirement in the future.

At age 29, I don't think anyone can say he is permanently physically unable to play football. But he obviously doesn't want to play through injury/pain, which is probably what the Colts would have wanted him to do this year.
 
Professional entertainers who don't entertain get booed, particularly when they cancel last minute.
Absolutely and when you hurt the ankle snowboarding just sit down with Oliver and figure a way to just take the money and run. Irsay and the Colts were played and Andy is counting his money having a nice life.
 
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Absolutely and when you hurt the ankle snowboarding just sit down with Oliver and figure a way to just take the money and run. Irsay and the Colts were played and Andy is counting his money having a nice life.
That is my issue with this whole thing. As I mentioned I am not even a dolts fan and when and how he did this is what is crappy of him.

You want to retire? Fine, go on IR for the season then wrap it up.. not 2 weeks before the season and leaving your team in the lurch.

That tells me what kind of a teammate he really is.
 
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Irsay has been promoting the return idea from the start. But he's a knucklehead so I'm not sure how much salt to take with that. JMV is kinda on it too. I don't buy it.
 
My take on this is that Luck will find a way out of his commitment to the Colts and take over in New England, replacing a retired Tom Brady.
 
My take on this is that Luck will find a way out of his commitment to the Colts and take over in New England, replacing a retired Tom Brady.
Bad take. The Colts retain all rights to Luck following his retirement. The "way out" is only through a MAJOR offering by the Pats to the Colts.
 
Imagine what a scumbag move it would for him to return three years later to another team when his contract is up after keeping the bonus.
If Luck " returns " 3 yrs. from now, it'll be to the Colts. They retain rights to him. Somebody ELSE wants him ? They'll be paying through the nose. Draft picks/player(s)/ $'s
 
Bad take. The Colts retain all rights to Luck following his retirement. The "way out" is only through a MAJOR offering by the Pats to the Colts.

I covered all that with this phrase from my post. " Luck will find a way out of his commitment to the Colts"
 
They will have a lot of empty seats and tickets to sell next year.

Just like many other franchises.

You crap all over the fans, their flag and their country, you get what you deserve.

It's a shame for what many people remember about a once-great NFL.

The NFL has a serious problem with their brand right now. The Andrew Luck thing is local, but it's not helping.
 
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