Next season's non-conference schedule

[nagemj02]

I know that Butler will be the Crossroads Classic opponent. I would like to see this past season's B1G regular season champion Boilermakers play last season's ACC regular season champion (North Carolina) in the B1G/ACC Challenge. It's time for a home game in the Challenge as well, since they played at Louisville and at Pittsburgh the past two seasons.

Were there any opponents that Purdue started a home-and-home with this past season? I don't recall any but maybe someone here does.

I read that SEC teams are now either encouraged or required to play non-con opponents with a previous season's RPI of 175 or better, in order to help their SOS and give them a better chance of getting more teams into the NCAA Tournament. I would like to see Purdue adopt that idea as well and have every non-conference opponent be one that had a final RPI of 175 or better for the 2016-2017 season.

Who else would you like to see on the non-con schedule besides Butler?

 

[tjreese]

I know that Butler will be the Crossroads Classic opponent. I would like to see this past season's B1G regular season champion Boilermakers play last season's ACC regular season champion (North Carolina) in the B1G/ACC Challenge. It's time for a home game in the Challenge as well, since they played at Louisville and at Pittsburgh the past two seasons.

Were there any opponents that Purdue started a home-and-home with this past season? I don't recall any but maybe someone here does.

I read that SEC teams are now either encouraged or required to play non-con opponents with a previous season's RPI of 175 or better, in order to help their SOS and give them a better chance of getting more teams into the NCAA Tournament. I would like to see Purdue adopt that idea as well and have every non-conference opponent be one that had a final RPI of 175 or better for the 2016-2017 season.

Who else would you like to see on the non-con schedule besides Butler?

I would like to see Butler and Notre Dame every year..one at Crossroads and other on schedule with every third year. Butler crossroads, ND home or away...next year ND crossroads, Butler home or away. next year Butler crossroads and ND swapping the home and home to return the favor the third year...same with Butler.

 

[Wolegib]

I want to play Butler. and I want to BEAT Butler ! More than any other team, I wan Purdue to step up and beat Butler. it would be nice to play Louisville, Duke or UNC at Mackey.

 

[TC4THREE]

There was a Kansas fan on this board not so long ago that mentioned and upcoming home and home with them. If true, I doubt our NCAA tournament matchup did anything to scare them off.

 

[02Boilermaker]

The Battle 4 Atlantis should provide some good opponents depending on how the brackets fall. Here are the teams:

Arizona - Top 5 in most of the way too early top-25 rankings I've seen
Villanova - Top 10-ish
SMU & Purdue - Fringe Top 25
NC State & Tennessee - Unranked P5 schools
Western Kentucky - Bringing in the #9 ranked class in 2017 according to Rivals thanks to landing the #6 & #43 ranked recruits.
Northern Iowa - Traditionally a quality mid-major

With the Butler game & potential match-up with Villanova, I'm not sure if Purdue will be in consideration for the Gavitt Tip-Off games in '17. If they are, I think Xavier would be the best opponent.

 

[BoilerinLouisville]

We need another marquee game like Nova was in Mackey, but on ESPN this time
Maybe Louisville, UNC, hell even Florida in a home and home would work. Not sold on them at all

 

[TwinDegrees2]

I know that Butler will be the Crossroads Classic opponent. I would like to see this past season's B1G regular season champion Boilermakers play last season's ACC regular season champion (North Carolina) in the B1G/ACC Challenge. It's time for a home game in the Challenge as well, since they played at Louisville and at Pittsburgh the past two seasons.

Were there any opponents that Purdue started a home-and-home with this past season? I don't recall any but maybe someone here does.

I read that SEC teams are now either encouraged or required to play non-con opponents with a previous season's RPI of 175 or better, in order to help their SOS and give them a better chance of getting more teams into the NCAA Tournament. I would like to see Purdue adopt that idea as well and have every non-conference opponent be one that had a final RPI of 175 or better for the 2016-2017 season.

Who else would you like to see on the non-con schedule besides Butler?

Kentucky. Lewville. South Carolina. UCLA. Top four that would actually mean something.

 

[BoilerStation]

I would assume we are all but guaranteed a home game in the Big/ACC after going on the road the last 2 years. Teams I would be happy with getting are Duke, UNC and Virginia. I feel we should be viewed as one of the top Big 10 teams next year and would like to draw a top ACC team.

 

[*4purdue*]

I know that Butler will be the Crossroads Classic opponent. I would like to see this past season's B1G regular season champion Boilermakers play last season's ACC regular season champion (North Carolina) in the B1G/ACC Challenge. It's time for a home game in the Challenge as well, since they played at Louisville and at Pittsburgh the past two seasons.

Were there any opponents that Purdue started a home-and-home with this past season? I don't recall any but maybe someone here does.

I read that SEC teams are now either encouraged or required to play non-con opponents with a previous season's RPI of 175 or better, in order to help their SOS and give them a better chance of getting more teams into the NCAA Tournament. I would like to see Purdue adopt that idea as well and have every non-conference opponent be one that had a final RPI of 175 or better for the 2016-2017 season.

Who else would you like to see on the non-con schedule besides Butler?

I'd like Purdue and X to start a series. They played a few times in Indy years back. Would like to see a home and home with them.

 

[nagemj02]

The Battle 4 Atlantis should provide some good opponents depending on how the brackets fall. Here are the teams:

Arizona - Top 5 in most of the way too early top-25 rankings I've seen
Villanova - Top 10-ish
SMU & Purdue - Fringe Top 25
NC State & Tennessee - Unranked P5 schools
Western Kentucky - Bringing in the #9 ranked class in 2017 according to Rivals thanks to landing the #6 & #43 ranked recruits.
Northern Iowa - Traditionally a quality mid-major

With the Butler game & potential match-up with Villanova, I'm not sure if Purdue will be in consideration for the Gavitt Tip-Off games in '17. If they are, I think Xavier would be the best opponent.

That's right, they're going to be in the Battle 4 Atlantis tournament. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[ChoiceBeef]

I would like a home and away with a Big12 school - Texas, Kansas or West Virginia.

Wouldn't mind Florida or Missouri either

 

[BoilerAndy]

Kentucky. Lewville. South Carolina. UCLA. Top four that would actually mean something.

UCLA was the first that came to mind. People here have talked in the past about it being the annual "Wooden Classic". There would be a ton of story lines for that one.

 

[BoilerStation]

UCLA was the first that came to mind. People here have talked in the past about it being the annual "Wooden Classic". There would be a ton of story lines for that one.

I would enjoy playing a game against UCLA every year. Louisville and UK would be other great options. UK likely won't be willing to do a home and home game but we could stick it to IU fans if we were willing to do neutral site games with them. UK is always young and typically has some very good athletic talent. Pretty much zero punishment for losing to them but getting the experience and winning would go a long way to improve the perception about Purdue and resume come tourney time.

 

[BoilerStation]

I do think Calipari is strategic in who he is willing to schedule and not sure he would play us. He sticks to the blue bloods and elite teams who don't have as much to gain as a team like us would by winning. I think that could have played into them not scheduling IU anymore along with other factors. He is trying to play his part in keeping IU from getting back to the top and knows it pisses off their fans. He won't view us the same way but I doubt he wants Painter to see real traction and for Purdue to become a final 4 threat every year with his ongoing desires to pick elite talent out of the state of Indiana.

 

[boilerbusdriver]

I'm no fan of Bruce Pearl, yes I know he can recruit, but would love a home and home with his Auburn Tigers every year, and continue too give him a Beatdown every stinking time!!!! Yes!

 

[nagemj02]

I do think Calipari is strategic in who he is willing to schedule and not sure he would play us. He sticks to the blue bloods and elite teams who don't have as much to gain as a team like us would by winning. I think that could have played into them not scheduling IU anymore along with other factors. He is trying to play his part in keeping IU from getting back to the top and knows it pisses off their fans. He won't view us the same way but I doubt he wants Painter to see real traction and for Purdue to become a final 4 threat every year with his ongoing desires to pick elite talent out of the state of Indiana.

True, but with the exception of Marquis Teague, what elite talent has Calipari picked out of the state of Indiana since he's been at UK?

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

True, but with the exception of Marquis Teague, what elite talent has Calipari picked out of the state of Indiana since he's been at UK?

Trey Lyles for one, off-the-top-of my-head.

 

[nagemj02]

I forgot about him (so many one-and-dones there). I guess Calipari's crew has stolen a couple of them.

Anyway, I'm gonna look for the final RPI rankings for 2016-2017 (top 175 opponents) and maybe those interested can write up their preferred schedule. It could be fun.

 

[nagemj02]

Here are the final top 175 RPI rankings (out of 351 teams) for this past season:

1 N Carolina (32-7) 0.668 1 59 1
2 Kentucky (32-6) 0.658 1 41 2
3 Kansas (31-5) 0.656 1 60 3
4 Villanova (32-4) 0.655 1 326 4
5 Arizona (32-5) 0.652 1 211 5
6 Gonzaga (37-2) 0.649 1 75 6
7 Oregon (32-6) 0.648 4 214 7
8 Florida (27-9) 0.642 2 265 8
9 Baylor (26-8) 0.641 1 210 9
10 Duke (28-9) 0.640 6 153 10
11 Louisville (25-9) 0.637 3 209 11
12 Butler (25-9) 0.628 3 218 12
13 Cincinnati (30-6) 0.627 1 105 13
14 UCLA (31-5) 0.627 12 237 14
15 Florida St (26-9) 0.625 4 267 15
16 S Methodist (30-5) 0.624 12 119 16
17 St Marys (29-5) 0.621 3 124 17
18 Purdue (27-8) 0.617 15 329 18
19 Virginia (23-11) 0.616 3 60 19
20 W Virginia (28-9) 0.613 10 327 20
21 Iowa State (24-11) 0.612 13 146 21
22 Notre Dame (26-10) 0.608 17 212 22
23 Michigan (26-12) 0.608 22 91 23
24 S Carolina (25-11) 0.606 9 97 24
25 Minnesota (24-10) 0.605 5 210 25
26 VCU (26-9) 0.605 12 227 26
27 Xavier (24-14) 0.604 1 101 27
28 Arkansas (26-10) 0.601 12 109 28
29 Wichita St (30-5) 0.599 27 158 29
30 Wisconsin (27-10) 0.599 17 230 30
31 Rhode Island (25-10) 0.598 28 115 31
32 Creighton (24-10) 0.596 1 219 32
33 NC-Wilmgton (27-6) 0.596 4 275 33
34 Middle Tenn (30-5) 0.595 3 241 34
35 Nevada (28-7) 0.594 20 259 35
36 Dayton (23-8) 0.594 4 155 36
37 USC (26-10) 0.594 12 213 37
38 Maryland (23-9) 0.590 14 113 38
39 Illinois St (27-7) 0.589 26 260 39
40 TX-Arlington (25-9) 0.588 16 165 40
41 Oklahoma St (19-13) 0.586 27 248 41
42 Vanderbilt (19-16) 0.584 33 249 42
43 Wake Forest (19-14) 0.580 12 274 44
44 Miami (FL) (21-12) 0.580 6 341 45
45 Vermont (28-6) 0.580 43 325 43
46 Seton Hall (21-12) 0.579 12 147 46
47 Michigan St (20-15) 0.579 7 223 47
48 Northwestern (24-12) 0.578 16 342 48
49 Princeton (22-7) 0.577 46 311 49
50 VA Tech (22-11) 0.576 3 163 50
51 TX Christian (23-15) 0.574 4 203 51
52 Monmouth (27-7) 0.572 39 148 52
53 Kansas St (21-14) 0.572 37 216 53
54 Georgia (18-15) 0.570 25 133 54
55 Akron (26-9) 0.569 35 297 55
56 N Mex State (25-6) 0.566 46 299 56
57 E Tenn St (25-8) 0.566 20 185 57
58 Belmont (22-7) 0.565 52 282 58
59 Col Charlestn (24-10) 0.565 29 197 59
60 CS Bakersfld (22-10) 0.565 53 263 60
61 Illinois (19-15) 0.563 25 224 61
62 Providence (20-13) 0.563 23 308 62
63 Houston (21-11) 0.563 22 316 63
64 California (21-13) 0.562 20 191 64
65 Central FL (24-12) 0.561 2 235 65
66 Bucknell (26-9) 0.560 61 306 66
67 Marquette (19-13) 0.558 35 234 67
68 Colorado St (22-12) 0.557 21 336 68
69 Mississippi (22-14) 0.557 1 82 69
70 Boise State (19-12) 0.555 55 276 70
71 Winthrop (24-7) 0.553 12 287 71
72 Richmond (22-13) 0.552 70 309 73
73 BYU (22-12) 0.552 63 342 72
74 Pittsburgh (16-17) 0.551 14 104 74
75 NC-Asheville (21-10) 0.549 35 277 75
76 Clemson (17-16) 0.549 2 125 76
77 Fresno St (18-13) 0.549 28 290 77
78 GA Tech (20-16) 0.548 34 315 79
79 Valparaiso (23-9) 0.548 31 342 78
80 Tennessee (15-16) 0.544 36 304 80
81 Alabama (19-15) 0.543 53 204 81
82 Indiana (18-16) 0.543 4 139 82
83 Iowa (19-15) 0.541 26 310 83
84 N Kentucky (22-11) 0.541 83 310 84
85 Syracuse (19-15) 0.540 16 223 85
86 Iona (22-13) 0.540 42 298 86
87 New Mexico (17-14) 0.540 65 280 87
88 Fla Gulf Cst (23-8) 0.539 50 295 88
89 Furman (21-12) 0.538 74 263 89
90 Ohio State (17-15) 0.537 13 166 90
91 St Bonavent (20-12) 0.537 53 294 91
92 Davidson (17-15) 0.536 23 152 93
93 Texas A&M (16-15) 0.536 23 258 92
94 Towson (19-13) 0.536 68 324 94
95 St Peters (23-13) 0.536 95 328 95
96 Utah (18-12) 0.536 16 339 96
97 Lehigh (19-12) 0.534 27 214 97
98 NC-Grnsboro (22-10) 0.533 10 231 99
99 San Fransco (19-13) 0.532 22 255 98
100 San Diego St (18-14) 0.531 8 155 100
101 Colorado (18-15) 0.531 45 344 101
102 Oakland (23-9) 0.531 63 254 102
103 TX Southern (23-12) 0.530 45 239 103
104 Stanford (13-17) 0.529 35 332 104
105 Georgia St (18-13) 0.528 23 341 105
106 Penn State (15-18) 0.528 65 201 106
107 Auburn (18-14) 0.527 18 343 107
108 Connecticut (15-17) 0.527 35 294 108
109 Marshall (19-15) 0.526 11 204 109
110 Geo Wshgtn (20-15) 0.526 19 320 111
111 N Dakota St (17-11) 0.526 22 228 110
112 Nebraska (11-19) 0.526 43 240 112
113 Wm & Mary (15-14) 0.525 37 264 113
114 Arkansas St (19-12) 0.525 15 296 114
115 LA Lafayette (19-12) 0.525 71 270 115
116 LA Tech (21-10) 0.525 92 265 116
117 Georgetown (14-18) 0.523 53 253 117
118 Ohio (19-11) 0.523 8 180 118
119 Wright State (18-12) 0.522 61 202 119
120 Memphis (19-13) 0.522 75 321 120
121 Siena (17-17) 0.522 37 292 121
122 Texas Tech (18-14) 0.521 40 270 122
123 Geo Mason (19-14) 0.521 102 292 123
124 South Dakota (20-12) 0.519 38 229 124
125 Grand Canyon (20-9) 0.519 49 233 125
126 N Hampshire (17-12) 0.518 96 337 126
127 UC Irvine (19-15) 0.518 77 282 127
128 Arizona St (15-18) 0.518 79 255 128
129 St Johns (14-19) 0.517 4 277 130
130 Yale (17-11) 0.517 9 143 131
131 Wyoming (21-15) 0.517 60 278 132
132 Santa Clara (16-16) 0.516 4 322 129
133 TX A&M-CC (21-12) 0.516 58 313 133
134 North Dakota (19-10) 0.515 130 350 134
135 Temple (16-16) 0.515 16 340 135
136 La Salle (15-15) 0.515 57 286 136
137 Old Dominion (19-12) 0.515 38 244 137
138 Mt St Marys (20-16) 0.515 19 273 138
139 Chattanooga (17-12) 0.514 6 144 141
140 NC State (15-17) 0.514 24 277 142
141 Tulsa (15-17) 0.514 69 287 139
142 Northeastrn (15-16) 0.514 31 269 140
143 Neb Omaha (17-14) 0.514 36 221 143
144 Kent State (21-14) 0.514 18 310 144
145 Harvard (16-10) 0.512 94 342 145
146 Albany (20-14) 0.512 3 194 146
147 S Illinois (16-16) 0.511 50 250 147
148 Buffalo (15-15) 0.511 44 190 148
149 Troy (20-15) 0.511 101 292 149
150 GA Southern (16-15) 0.510 79 309 150
151 Miss State (16-16) 0.510 100 246 151
152 UC Davis (21-13) 0.509 1 293 152
153 Jksnville St (18-15) 0.507 37 318 153
154 E Washingtn (20-12) 0.507 57 349 154
155 S Dakota St (16-17) 0.506 76 339 155
156 Texas (11-22) 0.505 32 346 156
157 Maryland BC (19-13) 0.504 67 329 158
158 N Iowa (13-16) 0.504 3 204 160
159 Loyola Mymt (14-15) 0.504 139 345 157
160 TN Martin (20-13) 0.504 54 326 159
161 Oklahoma (11-20) 0.503 5 175 161
162 New Orleans (17-12) 0.502 86 337 162
163 Elon (16-14) 0.502 4 304 163
164 Toledo (16-17) 0.501 8 201 164
165 TN State (15-13) 0.501 2 176 165
166 WI-Grn Bay (16-14) 0.500 91 303 166
167 Liberty (18-14) 0.500 53 334 167
168 Samford (18-16) 0.499 66 314 168
169 IPFW (17-13) 0.499 66 240 169
170 Canisius (18-16) 0.499 77 290 170
171 Wash State (12-18) 0.499 23 256 171
172 Texas State (20-14) 0.498 7 328 172
173 Rice (21-12) 0.498 78 272 173
174 Coastal Car (18-19) 0.497 139 348 174
175 Ball State (20-13) 0.497 52 347 175


I would like to see all of next season's pre-conference opponents be comprised out of teams from this group.

Let's look at this past season's pre-conference schedule and see how it looks, RPI-wise:

* = neutral court

Date: Opponent and their final RPI: Outcome:


11/11/16: vs. McNeese State (314) Win

11/14/16: vs. Villanova (4) Loss

11/18/16: vs. Georgia State (105) Win

11/22/16: *vs. Utah State (181) Win

11/23/16: *vs. Auburn (107) Win

11/26/16: vs. NJIT (293) Win

11/30/16: at Louisville (11) Loss

12/3/16: vs. Morehead State (201) Win

12/6/16: *vs. Arizona State (128) Win

12/10/16: vs. Cleveland State (253) Win

12/17/16: *vs. Notre Dame (22) Win

12/19/16: vs. Western Illinois (325) Win

12/21/16: vs. Norfolk State (248) Win


Purdue needs to avoid scheduling the McNeese State's, Utah State's, NJIT's, Morehead State's, Cleveland State's, Western Illinois', and Norfolk State's of college basketball next season.

 

[nagemj02]

Here's a mock 2017-2018 non-conference schedule that would be challenging, yet manageable:

# = Battle 4 Atlantis Tournament

$ = B1G/ACC Challenge

* = Crossroads Classic in Indianapolis


Fri. 11/10/17: vs. Green Bay (166)

Mon. 11/13/17: vs. Monmouth (52)

Sat. 11/18/17: at Xavier (27)

Wed. 11/22/17: #vs. Tennessee (80) (opening round opponent TBD: hypothetical)

Thu. 11/23/17: #vs. Villanova (4) (opponent TBD: hypothetical)

Fri. 11/24/17: #vs. Arizona (5) (opponent TBD: hypothetical)

Mon. 11/27/17: vs. Dayton (36)

Thu. 11/30/17: $vs. North Carolina (1)

Sun. 12/3/17: vs. Southern Illinois (147)

Thu. 12/7/17: at West Virginia (20)

Sun. 12/10/17: vs. Valparaiso (79)

Sat. 12/16/17: *vs. Butler (12)

Tue. 12/19/17: vs. Pittsburgh (74)

Sat. 3/10/18: vs. Illinois State (39)


How does that look for a non-conference schedule next season?

 

[ThreeTwaunMoore]

Here's a mock 2017-2018 non-conference schedule that would be challenging, yet manageable:

# = Battle 4 Atlantis Tournament

$ = B1G/ACC Challenge

* = Crossroads Classic in Indianapolis


Fri. 11/10/17: vs. Green Bay (166)

Mon. 11/13/17 vs. Monmouth (52)

Sat. 11/18/17 at Xavier (27)

Wed. 11/22/17: #vs. Tennessee (80) (opening round opponent TBD: hypothetical)

Thu. 11/23/17 #vs. Villanova (4) (opponent TBD: hypothetical)

Fri. 11/24/17 #vs. Arizona (5) (opponent TBD: hypothetical)

Mon. 11/27/17 vs. Dayton (36)

Thu. 11/30/17 $vs. North Carolina (1)

Sun. 12/3/17 vs. Southern Illinois (147)

Thu. 12/7/17 at West Virginia (20)

Sun. 12/10/17 vs. Valparaiso (79)

Sat. 12/16/17 *vs. Butler (12)

Tue. 12/19/17 vs. Pittsburgh (74)

Sat. 3/10/18 vs. Illinois State (39)


How does that look for a non-conference schedule next season?

This is a joke, right? Do you really want to lose seven games before we even get into conference play? That would be the hardest non-conference schedule in the history of college basketball. I'm all for testing ourselves during non-conference play, but c'mon. Nothing about that is manageable or realistic.

 

[nagemj02]

This is a joke, right? Do you really want to lose seven games before we even get into conference play? That would be the hardest non-conference schedule in the history of college basketball. I'm all for testing ourselves during non-conference play, but c'mon. Nothing about that is manageable or realistic.

Are you joking? They wouldn't lose 7 games. It wouldn't even come close to being the toughest non-conference schedule in the history of college basketball. Also, as I mentioned, a couple of those above are total hypothetical/chance opponents (i.e. Villanova and Arizona in the Battle 4 Atlantis).

Do you want to see Purdue strive to be one of the best with a good, tough schedule or do you want to see them continue to schedule 7 non-conference opponents that end up with RPI's worse than 175? Some people complain about the really bad teams on the schedule and now you're complaining that it will be too hard, lol.

 

[TooPoorToBleedGold]

Here are the final top 175 RPI rankings (out of 351 teams) for this past season:

1 N Carolina (32-7) 0.668 1 59 1
2 Kentucky (32-6) 0.658 1 41 2
3 Kansas (31-5) 0.656 1 60 3
4 Villanova (32-4) 0.655 1 326 4
5 Arizona (32-5) 0.652 1 211 5
6 Gonzaga (37-2) 0.649 1 75 6
7 Oregon (32-6) 0.648 4 214 7
8 Florida (27-9) 0.642 2 265 8
9 Baylor (26-8) 0.641 1 210 9
10 Duke (28-9) 0.640 6 153 10
11 Louisville (25-9) 0.637 3 209 11
12 Butler (25-9) 0.628 3 218 12
13 Cincinnati (30-6) 0.627 1 105 13
14 UCLA (31-5) 0.627 12 237 14
15 Florida St (26-9) 0.625 4 267 15
16 S Methodist (30-5) 0.624 12 119 16
17 St Marys (29-5) 0.621 3 124 17
18 Purdue (27-8) 0.617 15 329 18
19 Virginia (23-11) 0.616 3 60 19
20 W Virginia (28-9) 0.613 10 327 20
21 Iowa State (24-11) 0.612 13 146 21
22 Notre Dame (26-10) 0.608 17 212 22
23 Michigan (26-12) 0.608 22 91 23
24 S Carolina (25-11) 0.606 9 97 24
25 Minnesota (24-10) 0.605 5 210 25
26 VCU (26-9) 0.605 12 227 26
27 Xavier (24-14) 0.604 1 101 27
28 Arkansas (26-10) 0.601 12 109 28
29 Wichita St (30-5) 0.599 27 158 29
30 Wisconsin (27-10) 0.599 17 230 30
31 Rhode Island (25-10) 0.598 28 115 31
32 Creighton (24-10) 0.596 1 219 32
33 NC-Wilmgton (27-6) 0.596 4 275 33
34 Middle Tenn (30-5) 0.595 3 241 34
35 Nevada (28-7) 0.594 20 259 35
36 Dayton (23-8) 0.594 4 155 36
37 USC (26-10) 0.594 12 213 37
38 Maryland (23-9) 0.590 14 113 38
39 Illinois St (27-7) 0.589 26 260 39
40 TX-Arlington (25-9) 0.588 16 165 40
41 Oklahoma St (19-13) 0.586 27 248 41
42 Vanderbilt (19-16) 0.584 33 249 42
43 Wake Forest (19-14) 0.580 12 274 44
44 Miami (FL) (21-12) 0.580 6 341 45
45 Vermont (28-6) 0.580 43 325 43
46 Seton Hall (21-12) 0.579 12 147 46
47 Michigan St (20-15) 0.579 7 223 47
48 Northwestern (24-12) 0.578 16 342 48
49 Princeton (22-7) 0.577 46 311 49
50 VA Tech (22-11) 0.576 3 163 50
51 TX Christian (23-15) 0.574 4 203 51
52 Monmouth (27-7) 0.572 39 148 52
53 Kansas St (21-14) 0.572 37 216 53
54 Georgia (18-15) 0.570 25 133 54
55 Akron (26-9) 0.569 35 297 55
56 N Mex State (25-6) 0.566 46 299 56
57 E Tenn St (25-8) 0.566 20 185 57
58 Belmont (22-7) 0.565 52 282 58
59 Col Charlestn (24-10) 0.565 29 197 59
60 CS Bakersfld (22-10) 0.565 53 263 60
61 Illinois (19-15) 0.563 25 224 61
62 Providence (20-13) 0.563 23 308 62
63 Houston (21-11) 0.563 22 316 63
64 California (21-13) 0.562 20 191 64
65 Central FL (24-12) 0.561 2 235 65
66 Bucknell (26-9) 0.560 61 306 66
67 Marquette (19-13) 0.558 35 234 67
68 Colorado St (22-12) 0.557 21 336 68
69 Mississippi (22-14) 0.557 1 82 69
70 Boise State (19-12) 0.555 55 276 70
71 Winthrop (24-7) 0.553 12 287 71
72 Richmond (22-13) 0.552 70 309 73
73 BYU (22-12) 0.552 63 342 72
74 Pittsburgh (16-17) 0.551 14 104 74
75 NC-Asheville (21-10) 0.549 35 277 75
76 Clemson (17-16) 0.549 2 125 76
77 Fresno St (18-13) 0.549 28 290 77
78 GA Tech (20-16) 0.548 34 315 79
79 Valparaiso (23-9) 0.548 31 342 78
80 Tennessee (15-16) 0.544 36 304 80
81 Alabama (19-15) 0.543 53 204 81
82 Indiana (18-16) 0.543 4 139 82
83 Iowa (19-15) 0.541 26 310 83
84 N Kentucky (22-11) 0.541 83 310 84
85 Syracuse (19-15) 0.540 16 223 85
86 Iona (22-13) 0.540 42 298 86
87 New Mexico (17-14) 0.540 65 280 87
88 Fla Gulf Cst (23-8) 0.539 50 295 88
89 Furman (21-12) 0.538 74 263 89
90 Ohio State (17-15) 0.537 13 166 90
91 St Bonavent (20-12) 0.537 53 294 91
92 Davidson (17-15) 0.536 23 152 93
93 Texas A&M (16-15) 0.536 23 258 92
94 Towson (19-13) 0.536 68 324 94
95 St Peters (23-13) 0.536 95 328 95
96 Utah (18-12) 0.536 16 339 96
97 Lehigh (19-12) 0.534 27 214 97
98 NC-Grnsboro (22-10) 0.533 10 231 99
99 San Fransco (19-13) 0.532 22 255 98
100 San Diego St (18-14) 0.531 8 155 100
101 Colorado (18-15) 0.531 45 344 101
102 Oakland (23-9) 0.531 63 254 102
103 TX Southern (23-12) 0.530 45 239 103
104 Stanford (13-17) 0.529 35 332 104
105 Georgia St (18-13) 0.528 23 341 105
106 Penn State (15-18) 0.528 65 201 106
107 Auburn (18-14) 0.527 18 343 107
108 Connecticut (15-17) 0.527 35 294 108
109 Marshall (19-15) 0.526 11 204 109
110 Geo Wshgtn (20-15) 0.526 19 320 111
111 N Dakota St (17-11) 0.526 22 228 110
112 Nebraska (11-19) 0.526 43 240 112
113 Wm & Mary (15-14) 0.525 37 264 113
114 Arkansas St (19-12) 0.525 15 296 114
115 LA Lafayette (19-12) 0.525 71 270 115
116 LA Tech (21-10) 0.525 92 265 116
117 Georgetown (14-18) 0.523 53 253 117
118 Ohio (19-11) 0.523 8 180 118
119 Wright State (18-12) 0.522 61 202 119
120 Memphis (19-13) 0.522 75 321 120
121 Siena (17-17) 0.522 37 292 121
122 Texas Tech (18-14) 0.521 40 270 122
123 Geo Mason (19-14) 0.521 102 292 123
124 South Dakota (20-12) 0.519 38 229 124
125 Grand Canyon (20-9) 0.519 49 233 125
126 N Hampshire (17-12) 0.518 96 337 126
127 UC Irvine (19-15) 0.518 77 282 127
128 Arizona St (15-18) 0.518 79 255 128
129 St Johns (14-19) 0.517 4 277 130
130 Yale (17-11) 0.517 9 143 131
131 Wyoming (21-15) 0.517 60 278 132
132 Santa Clara (16-16) 0.516 4 322 129
133 TX A&M-CC (21-12) 0.516 58 313 133
134 North Dakota (19-10) 0.515 130 350 134
135 Temple (16-16) 0.515 16 340 135
136 La Salle (15-15) 0.515 57 286 136
137 Old Dominion (19-12) 0.515 38 244 137
138 Mt St Marys (20-16) 0.515 19 273 138
139 Chattanooga (17-12) 0.514 6 144 141
140 NC State (15-17) 0.514 24 277 142
141 Tulsa (15-17) 0.514 69 287 139
142 Northeastrn (15-16) 0.514 31 269 140
143 Neb Omaha (17-14) 0.514 36 221 143
144 Kent State (21-14) 0.514 18 310 144
145 Harvard (16-10) 0.512 94 342 145
146 Albany (20-14) 0.512 3 194 146
147 S Illinois (16-16) 0.511 50 250 147
148 Buffalo (15-15) 0.511 44 190 148
149 Troy (20-15) 0.511 101 292 149
150 GA Southern (16-15) 0.510 79 309 150
151 Miss State (16-16) 0.510 100 246 151
152 UC Davis (21-13) 0.509 1 293 152
153 Jksnville St (18-15) 0.507 37 318 153
154 E Washingtn (20-12) 0.507 57 349 154
155 S Dakota St (16-17) 0.506 76 339 155
156 Texas (11-22) 0.505 32 346 156
157 Maryland BC (19-13) 0.504 67 329 158
158 N Iowa (13-16) 0.504 3 204 160
159 Loyola Mymt (14-15) 0.504 139 345 157
160 TN Martin (20-13) 0.504 54 326 159
161 Oklahoma (11-20) 0.503 5 175 161
162 New Orleans (17-12) 0.502 86 337 162
163 Elon (16-14) 0.502 4 304 163
164 Toledo (16-17) 0.501 8 201 164
165 TN State (15-13) 0.501 2 176 165
166 WI-Grn Bay (16-14) 0.500 91 303 166
167 Liberty (18-14) 0.500 53 334 167
168 Samford (18-16) 0.499 66 314 168
169 IPFW (17-13) 0.499 66 240 169
170 Canisius (18-16) 0.499 77 290 170
171 Wash State (12-18) 0.499 23 256 171
172 Texas State (20-14) 0.498 7 328 172
173 Rice (21-12) 0.498 78 272 173
174 Coastal Car (18-19) 0.497 139 348 174
175 Ball State (20-13) 0.497 52 347 175


I would like to see all of next season's pre-conference opponents be comprised out of teams from this group.

Let's look at this past season's pre-conference schedule and see how it looks, RPI-wise:

* = neutral court

Date: Opponent and their final RPI: Outcome:


11/11/16 vs. McNeese State (314) Win

11/14/16 vs. Villanova (4) Loss

11/18/16 vs. Georgia State (105) Win

11/22/16 *vs. Utah State (181) Win

11/23/16 *vs. Auburn (107) Win

11/26/16 vs. NJIT (293) Win

11/30/16 at Louisville (11) Loss

12/3/16 vs. Morehead State (201) Win

12/6/16 *vs. Arizona State (128) Win

12/10/16 vs. Cleveland State (253) Win

12/17/16 *vs. Notre Dame (22) Win

12/19/16 vs. Western Illinois (325) Win

12/21/16 vs. Norfolk State (248) Win


Purdue needs to avoid scheduling the McNeese State's, Utah State's, NJIT's, Morehead State's, Cleveland State's, Western Illinois', and Norfolk State's of college basketball next season.

Here are the final top 175 RPI rankings (out of 351 teams) for this past season:

1 N Carolina (32-7) 0.668 1 59 1
2 Kentucky (32-6) 0.658 1 41 2
3 Kansas (31-5) 0.656 1 60 3
4 Villanova (32-4) 0.655 1 326 4
5 Arizona (32-5) 0.652 1 211 5
6 Gonzaga (37-2) 0.649 1 75 6
7 Oregon (32-6) 0.648 4 214 7
8 Florida (27-9) 0.642 2 265 8
9 Baylor (26-8) 0.641 1 210 9
10 Duke (28-9) 0.640 6 153 10
11 Louisville (25-9) 0.637 3 209 11
12 Butler (25-9) 0.628 3 218 12
13 Cincinnati (30-6) 0.627 1 105 13
14 UCLA (31-5) 0.627 12 237 14
15 Florida St (26-9) 0.625 4 267 15
16 S Methodist (30-5) 0.624 12 119 16
17 St Marys (29-5) 0.621 3 124 17
18 Purdue (27-8) 0.617 15 329 18
19 Virginia (23-11) 0.616 3 60 19
20 W Virginia (28-9) 0.613 10 327 20
21 Iowa State (24-11) 0.612 13 146 21
22 Notre Dame (26-10) 0.608 17 212 22
23 Michigan (26-12) 0.608 22 91 23
24 S Carolina (25-11) 0.606 9 97 24
25 Minnesota (24-10) 0.605 5 210 25
26 VCU (26-9) 0.605 12 227 26
27 Xavier (24-14) 0.604 1 101 27
28 Arkansas (26-10) 0.601 12 109 28
29 Wichita St (30-5) 0.599 27 158 29
30 Wisconsin (27-10) 0.599 17 230 30
31 Rhode Island (25-10) 0.598 28 115 31
32 Creighton (24-10) 0.596 1 219 32
33 NC-Wilmgton (27-6) 0.596 4 275 33
34 Middle Tenn (30-5) 0.595 3 241 34
35 Nevada (28-7) 0.594 20 259 35
36 Dayton (23-8) 0.594 4 155 36
37 USC (26-10) 0.594 12 213 37
38 Maryland (23-9) 0.590 14 113 38
39 Illinois St (27-7) 0.589 26 260 39
40 TX-Arlington (25-9) 0.588 16 165 40
41 Oklahoma St (19-13) 0.586 27 248 41
42 Vanderbilt (19-16) 0.584 33 249 42
43 Wake Forest (19-14) 0.580 12 274 44
44 Miami (FL) (21-12) 0.580 6 341 45
45 Vermont (28-6) 0.580 43 325 43
46 Seton Hall (21-12) 0.579 12 147 46
47 Michigan St (20-15) 0.579 7 223 47
48 Northwestern (24-12) 0.578 16 342 48
49 Princeton (22-7) 0.577 46 311 49
50 VA Tech (22-11) 0.576 3 163 50
51 TX Christian (23-15) 0.574 4 203 51
52 Monmouth (27-7) 0.572 39 148 52
53 Kansas St (21-14) 0.572 37 216 53
54 Georgia (18-15) 0.570 25 133 54
55 Akron (26-9) 0.569 35 297 55
56 N Mex State (25-6) 0.566 46 299 56
57 E Tenn St (25-8) 0.566 20 185 57
58 Belmont (22-7) 0.565 52 282 58
59 Col Charlestn (24-10) 0.565 29 197 59
60 CS Bakersfld (22-10) 0.565 53 263 60
61 Illinois (19-15) 0.563 25 224 61
62 Providence (20-13) 0.563 23 308 62
63 Houston (21-11) 0.563 22 316 63
64 California (21-13) 0.562 20 191 64
65 Central FL (24-12) 0.561 2 235 65
66 Bucknell (26-9) 0.560 61 306 66
67 Marquette (19-13) 0.558 35 234 67
68 Colorado St (22-12) 0.557 21 336 68
69 Mississippi (22-14) 0.557 1 82 69
70 Boise State (19-12) 0.555 55 276 70
71 Winthrop (24-7) 0.553 12 287 71
72 Richmond (22-13) 0.552 70 309 73
73 BYU (22-12) 0.552 63 342 72
74 Pittsburgh (16-17) 0.551 14 104 74
75 NC-Asheville (21-10) 0.549 35 277 75
76 Clemson (17-16) 0.549 2 125 76
77 Fresno St (18-13) 0.549 28 290 77
78 GA Tech (20-16) 0.548 34 315 79
79 Valparaiso (23-9) 0.548 31 342 78
80 Tennessee (15-16) 0.544 36 304 80
81 Alabama (19-15) 0.543 53 204 81
82 Indiana (18-16) 0.543 4 139 82
83 Iowa (19-15) 0.541 26 310 83
84 N Kentucky (22-11) 0.541 83 310 84
85 Syracuse (19-15) 0.540 16 223 85
86 Iona (22-13) 0.540 42 298 86
87 New Mexico (17-14) 0.540 65 280 87
88 Fla Gulf Cst (23-8) 0.539 50 295 88
89 Furman (21-12) 0.538 74 263 89
90 Ohio State (17-15) 0.537 13 166 90
91 St Bonavent (20-12) 0.537 53 294 91
92 Davidson (17-15) 0.536 23 152 93
93 Texas A&M (16-15) 0.536 23 258 92
94 Towson (19-13) 0.536 68 324 94
95 St Peters (23-13) 0.536 95 328 95
96 Utah (18-12) 0.536 16 339 96
97 Lehigh (19-12) 0.534 27 214 97
98 NC-Grnsboro (22-10) 0.533 10 231 99
99 San Fransco (19-13) 0.532 22 255 98
100 San Diego St (18-14) 0.531 8 155 100
101 Colorado (18-15) 0.531 45 344 101
102 Oakland (23-9) 0.531 63 254 102
103 TX Southern (23-12) 0.530 45 239 103
104 Stanford (13-17) 0.529 35 332 104
105 Georgia St (18-13) 0.528 23 341 105
106 Penn State (15-18) 0.528 65 201 106
107 Auburn (18-14) 0.527 18 343 107
108 Connecticut (15-17) 0.527 35 294 108
109 Marshall (19-15) 0.526 11 204 109
110 Geo Wshgtn (20-15) 0.526 19 320 111
111 N Dakota St (17-11) 0.526 22 228 110
112 Nebraska (11-19) 0.526 43 240 112
113 Wm & Mary (15-14) 0.525 37 264 113
114 Arkansas St (19-12) 0.525 15 296 114
115 LA Lafayette (19-12) 0.525 71 270 115
116 LA Tech (21-10) 0.525 92 265 116
117 Georgetown (14-18) 0.523 53 253 117
118 Ohio (19-11) 0.523 8 180 118
119 Wright State (18-12) 0.522 61 202 119
120 Memphis (19-13) 0.522 75 321 120
121 Siena (17-17) 0.522 37 292 121
122 Texas Tech (18-14) 0.521 40 270 122
123 Geo Mason (19-14) 0.521 102 292 123
124 South Dakota (20-12) 0.519 38 229 124
125 Grand Canyon (20-9) 0.519 49 233 125
126 N Hampshire (17-12) 0.518 96 337 126
127 UC Irvine (19-15) 0.518 77 282 127
128 Arizona St (15-18) 0.518 79 255 128
129 St Johns (14-19) 0.517 4 277 130
130 Yale (17-11) 0.517 9 143 131
131 Wyoming (21-15) 0.517 60 278 132
132 Santa Clara (16-16) 0.516 4 322 129
133 TX A&M-CC (21-12) 0.516 58 313 133
134 North Dakota (19-10) 0.515 130 350 134
135 Temple (16-16) 0.515 16 340 135
136 La Salle (15-15) 0.515 57 286 136
137 Old Dominion (19-12) 0.515 38 244 137
138 Mt St Marys (20-16) 0.515 19 273 138
139 Chattanooga (17-12) 0.514 6 144 141
140 NC State (15-17) 0.514 24 277 142
141 Tulsa (15-17) 0.514 69 287 139
142 Northeastrn (15-16) 0.514 31 269 140
143 Neb Omaha (17-14) 0.514 36 221 143
144 Kent State (21-14) 0.514 18 310 144
145 Harvard (16-10) 0.512 94 342 145
146 Albany (20-14) 0.512 3 194 146
147 S Illinois (16-16) 0.511 50 250 147
148 Buffalo (15-15) 0.511 44 190 148
149 Troy (20-15) 0.511 101 292 149
150 GA Southern (16-15) 0.510 79 309 150
151 Miss State (16-16) 0.510 100 246 151
152 UC Davis (21-13) 0.509 1 293 152
153 Jksnville St (18-15) 0.507 37 318 153
154 E Washingtn (20-12) 0.507 57 349 154
155 S Dakota St (16-17) 0.506 76 339 155
156 Texas (11-22) 0.505 32 346 156
157 Maryland BC (19-13) 0.504 67 329 158
158 N Iowa (13-16) 0.504 3 204 160
159 Loyola Mymt (14-15) 0.504 139 345 157
160 TN Martin (20-13) 0.504 54 326 159
161 Oklahoma (11-20) 0.503 5 175 161
162 New Orleans (17-12) 0.502 86 337 162
163 Elon (16-14) 0.502 4 304 163
164 Toledo (16-17) 0.501 8 201 164
165 TN State (15-13) 0.501 2 176 165
166 WI-Grn Bay (16-14) 0.500 91 303 166
167 Liberty (18-14) 0.500 53 334 167
168 Samford (18-16) 0.499 66 314 168
169 IPFW (17-13) 0.499 66 240 169
170 Canisius (18-16) 0.499 77 290 170
171 Wash State (12-18) 0.499 23 256 171
172 Texas State (20-14) 0.498 7 328 172
173 Rice (21-12) 0.498 78 272 173
174 Coastal Car (18-19) 0.497 139 348 174
175 Ball State (20-13) 0.497 52 347 175


I would like to see all of next season's pre-conference opponents be comprised out of teams from this group.

Let's look at this past season's pre-conference schedule and see how it looks, RPI-wise:

* = neutral court

Date: Opponent and their final RPI: Outcome:


11/11/16 vs. McNeese State (314) Win

11/14/16 vs. Villanova (4) Loss

11/18/16 vs. Georgia State (105) Win

11/22/16 *vs. Utah State (181) Win

11/23/16 *vs. Auburn (107) Win

11/26/16 vs. NJIT (293) Win

11/30/16 at Louisville (11) Loss

12/3/16 vs. Morehead State (201) Win

12/6/16 *vs. Arizona State (128) Win

12/10/16 vs. Cleveland State (253) Win

12/17/16 *vs. Notre Dame (22) Win

12/19/16 vs. Western Illinois (325) Win

12/21/16 vs. Norfolk State (248) Win


Purdue needs to avoid scheduling the McNeese State's, Utah State's, NJIT's, Morehead State's, Cleveland State's, Western Illinois', and Norfolk State's of college basketball next season.

You said avoid playing Utah St. I think I know you mean teams that are in their realm of rpi, but we played them in a preseason tourney. There is really very little we can do to determine our draw in these kind of events. I agree we need to avoid teams who are perennially bad basketball teams such as McNeese St. With this being said though some times you schedule a team, and they turn out to be a much worse team than expected.

Just because a team was ranked in the top 150 last year does not mean they will be any where close to that the following year. Nag suggested playing Valpo next season. They are historically a solid program, but do you think their RPI will be anywhere close to as high as it was without Alec Peters?

I'm all for getting away from total cupcakes, but as a power 5 conference team playing a couple of those each year is not that damaging, assuming you win.

 

[nagemj02]

ThreeTwaunMoore and TooPoorToBleedGold, where have you been? I never saw either one of you post a single time during the actual basketball season.

 

[nagemj02]

You said avoid playing Utah St. I think I know you mean teams that are in their realm of rpi, but we played them in a preseason tourney. There is really very little we can do to determine our draw in these kind of events. I agree we need to avoid teams who are perennially bad basketball teams such as McNeese St. With this being said though some times you schedule a team, and they turn out to be a much worse team than expected.

Just because a team was ranked in the top 150 last year does not mean they will be any where close to that the following year. Nag suggested playing Valpo next season. They are historically a solid program, but do you think their RPI will be anywhere close to as high as it was without Alec Peters?

I'm all for getting away from total cupcakes, but as a power 5 conference team playing a couple of those each year is not that damaging, assuming you win.

Also, you're arguing against yourself. Valpo would be one of the teams on the schedule next season that would lean more towards being an easier opponent to defeat (i.e. one of the "cupcakes" that you wouldn't mind seeing), yet you're poo-pooing the idea of playing them because they might be worse next season, lol.

 

[BoilerAndy]

Coac

Are you joking? They wouldn't lose 7 games. It wouldn't even come close to being the toughest non-conference schedule in the history of college basketball. Also, as I mentioned, a couple of those above are total hypothetical/chance opponents (i.e. Villanova and Arizona in the Battle 4 Atlantis).

Do you want to see Purdue strive to be one of the best with a good, tough schedule or do you want to see them continue to schedule 7 non-conference opponents that end up with RPI's worse than 175? Some people complain about the really bad teams on the schedule and now you're complaining that it will be too hard, lol.

Some coaches schedule cupcakes, especially for young teams, so that they can drill what they work on in practice against competition other than themselves. But Purdue will have a lot of veterans next year, so the competition they play should be tougher than, say, 2 years ago.

 

[nagemj02]

Coac

Some coaches schedule cupcakes, especially for young teams, so that they can drill what they work on in practice against competition other than themselves. But Purdue will have a lot of veterans next year, so the competition they play should be tougher than, say, 2 years ago.

Why not have it tougher than this past season's schedule as well? I imagine that they will have at least three newcomers getting a decent amount minutes next season, but the majority of the team will be fourth-year seniors (and a third-year junior) that have the ability and experience of winning games in their background.

 

[BoilerAndy]

Why not have it tougher than this past season's schedule as well? I imagine that they will have at least three newcomers getting a decent amount minutes next season, but the majority of the team will be fourth-year seniors (and a third-year junior) with the ability and experience of winning games.

Another problem is that some of the good teams don't want a home-and-home with Purdue, because Mackey is such a tough place to play. Keady used to talk about this. And as he said, Purdue is not going to play against teams where they dictate all of the terms.

 

[rgarlitz]

I thought the 2016-17 non-conference schedule looked pretty good when it was first announced. I expected more out of both Utah State and Arizona State.

That said, I agree that Purdue could take more chances in conferences like the Missouri Valley, Mountain West, Colonial, and Atlantic 10. There have to be at least 35 top-175 teams each year among those four leagues. Sure, you could end up with some duds (Utah State this year), but there's more quality depth in those leagues than the MEAC, SWAC, etc.

I wonder if it comes down to money. Purdue has to schedule 8 home non-conference games; I wonder if the low majors are just willing to come to Mackey for less money.

 

[daisyrail1619]

They wouldn't let us do that and we won't play Pitt either here or @ their place. UNC probably but still unknown who's in our favor next year. I want Duke or WF. If we play @WF, well, I don't know if they would boo Haas like Izzone booed Biggie.

 

[IamBob]

When thinking of the acc/big10 challenge....think like ESPN does. If M$U, Wisconsin, even IU with a new coach are so-so, they are still a bigger tv draw than us.

 

[Wolegib]

I'd like to see Painter take on some of his former colleagues and also schools. I live near SIU and Painter's old house. It would be great to welcome him back. I'd also love to see a Painter coached team matched up against Weber, Stallings and Zo!

 

[nagemj02]

They wouldn't let us do that and we won't play Pitt either here or @ their place. UNC probably but still unknown who's in our favor next year. I want Duke or WF. If we play @WF, well, I don't know if they would boo Haas like Izzone booed Biggie.

Purdue has already played Pitt at their place (2 seasons ago) under Painter.

rgarlitz, is it a mandatory thing that Purdue has to play 8 non-conference home games? I've never heard that before.

 

[nagemj02]

I'd like to see Painter take on some of his former colleagues and also schools. I live near SIU and Painter's old house. It would be great to welcome him back. I'd also love to see a Painter coached team matched up against Weber, Stallings and Zo!

Painter has said in the past that he doesn't like to play against former colleagues unless he knows that they're fine with doing it (Kevin Stallings when he was at Vandy is one example, Linc Darner when he was at Florida Southern is another).

 

[ThreeTwaunMoore]

ThreeTwaunMoore and TooPoorToBleedGold, where have you been? I never saw either one of you post a single time during the actual basketball season.

I joined KHC during the season. I'm all for playing a tough non-conference schedule, but the one you suggested is never happening, much like the zone defense you constantly post about. I need a beer.

 

[nagemj02]

I joined KHC during the season. I'm all for playing a tough non-conference schedule, but the one you suggested is never happening, much like the zone defense you constantly post about. I need a beer.

Which games aren't possible, in your mind?

never say never

Most of the time when zone comes up, I'm responding to someone else that brings it up, so bring it up with them if it bothers you.

 

[ThreeTwaunMoore]

Which games aren't possible, in your mind?

never say never

Most of the time when zone comes up, I'm responding to someone else that brings it up, so bring it up with them if it bothers you.

You're always the one bringing the zone up lol ... For the games that aren't possible? Nearly all of them? We are never going to play that many good mid-major teams at Mackey. Maybe we could get one of them, but you listed like four. UNC is somewhat believable because of the challenge, but I think we get someone like Virginia.

I don't have a problem with some of the teams you mentioned, like Pitt and WVU (these would require a home-and-home series), but you just can't group them all in one schedule lol ... Again, this has nothing to do with what I want or don't want for Purdue's schedule. I'm just saying a schedule like that is not possible or realistic.

 

[nagemj02]

You're always the one bringing the zone up lol ... For the games that aren't possible? Nearly all of them? We are never going to play that many good mid-major teams at Mackey. Maybe we could get one of them, but you listed like four. UNC is somewhat believable because of the challenge, but I think we get someone like Virginia.

I don't have a problem with some of the teams you mentioned, like Pitt and WVU (these would require a home-and-home series), but you just can't group them all in one schedule lol ... Again, this has nothing to do with what I want or don't want for Purdue's schedule. I'm just saying a schedule like that is not possible or realistic.

Why can't you? You're not really providing any valid reasons other than it won't happen because it doesn't normally happen. The truth of it is, Purdue HAS had similarly challenging non-conference schedules in its past. One of the best examples is probably Gene Keady's second season at Purdue:

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/purdue/1982-schedule.html

That nine game non-conference schedule had five teams on it that played in the NCAA Tournament later that season (Tennessee, DePaul, Louisville, Houston, Wake Forest), including two that made it to the Final Four (Louisville, Houston). Purdue had some experienced seniors (Keith Edmonson, Mike "Scooby" Scearce, Kevin Stallings, Jon Kitchel) and a standout sophomore (Russell Cross), but they were not as accustomed to Keady's style of play as most of Painter's players will be to his going into next season. I also believe that next season's team will have more depth than the aforementioned Purdue team, so I think they can avoid the pitfalls that team had in playing a challenging non-conference schedule.

 

[ThreeTwaunMoore]

Look, really solid teams aren't exactly blowing Elliot Bloom's phone up wanting to play at Mackey Arena. If you can't wrap your head around that, and why that's the case, I don't know what to tell you. Can someone please back me up on this and confirm that the proposed schedule above is absolutely ridiculous? Anyone?

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[rgarlitz]

Purdue has already played Pitt at their place (2 seasons ago) under Painter.

rgarlitz, is it a mandatory thing that Purdue has to play 8 non-conference home games? I've never heard that before.

I don't think so. But, it seems to shake out to about that number most years --- give or take a game or two, depending on holiday tournaments, the ACC challenge, and so fourth.

My point was, that Purdue schedules a significant number of non-conference home games every year. Are the Northern Iowas and Daytons of the world asking for a lot more to come to Mackey than schools like Norfolk State and MD Eastern Shore? I don't know. I just wonder if that's a factor.