New TimeOut Rules Question

[Dryfly88]

In the OU/KS game last night Self called a timeout with 8:08 remaining. When they came back from that timeout there was a stoppage at 7:52 (or very close to that) and they went to a TV timeout. I thought the new rules were put in place to prevent this? Could someone explain what I'm missing? I looked up the rule again just now and it says if a timeout is called within 30 seconds of a natural TV timeout then the normal timeout won't take place.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

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[Bigohh]

In the OU/KS game last night Self called a timeout with 8:08 remaining. When they came back from that timeout there was a stoppage at 7:52 (or very close to that) and they went to a TV timeout. I thought the new rules were put in place to prevent this? Could someone explain what I'm missing? I looked up the rule again just now and it says if a timeout is called within 30 seconds of a natural TV timeout then the normal timeout won't take place.

It is probably like the deal where someone on the sidelines at the PU/IA game yelled time out when PJ was in distress and the ref blew the whistle even thought the rule has been changed to not allow coaches to call a live ball time out. MP protested because it was PU's last TO but the ref, rather than admit he made a mistake, forced the TO over MP's protest.

 

[Statey]

In the OU/KS game last night Self called a timeout with 8:08 remaining. When they came back from that timeout there was a stoppage at 7:52 (or very close to that) and they went to a TV timeout. I thought the new rules were put in place to prevent this? Could someone explain what I'm missing? I looked up the rule again just now and it says if a timeout is called within 30 seconds of a natural TV timeout then the normal timeout won't take place.

I might be getting mixed up, but I think the change they made is with respect to timeouts that are called when the timeout occurs at a time that would otherwise be a TV timeout on a dead ball. Going back to your example, the 8:08 timeout would not trigger the rule, because that wouldn't qualify for the under-8 TV timeout. If instead Self called a timeout at only the 7:52 mark (assuming the TV timeout had not already occurred), I think this is when you'd see the new rule implemented.

 

[Dryfly88]

I might be getting mixed up, but I think the change they made is with respect to timeouts that are called when the timeout occurs at a time that would otherwise be a TV timeout on a dead ball. Going back to your example, the 8:08 timeout would not trigger the rule, because that wouldn't qualify for the under-8 TV timeout. If instead Self called a timeout at only the 7:52 mark (assuming the TV timeout had not already occurred), I think this is when you'd see the new rule implemented.

Ok, that would make sense then. I wasn't reading the rule that way but that would explain what happened last night.

 

[BoilerFan4Life]

I noticed the same thing watching the game live. I think the refs simply missed this. I believe the new rule applies to any timeout called within 30 seconds of the media timeouts. So essentially any timeout called after 8:30 left in the game would trigger the media timeout.

I noticed another blown call earlier this year during an IU game at Maui. Near the end of the game the refs call a 5 second defensive call against IU's opponent near the end of the game. That rule was eliminated this year and shouldn't have been called.

I think even the refs have trouble adjusting to the new rules.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

I noticed the same thing watching the game live. I think the refs simply missed this. I believe the new rule applies to any timeout called within 30 seconds of the media timeouts. So essentially any timeout called after 8:30 left in the game would trigger the media timeout.

I noticed another blown call earlier this year during an IU game at Maui. Near the end of the game the refs call a 5 second defensive call against IU's opponent near the end of the game. That rule was eliminated this year and shouldn't have been called.

I think even the refs have trouble adjusting to the new rules.

BF4L, I missed most of the Maui games, so I didn't see this play....was the player dribbling? My understanding is that the new rule covers situations where the player dribbles, but a violation could be called if say a player is trapped in the corner or along the sideline (don't know how that could happen....tic) for five seconds. However, I wouldn't be surprised if the official missed the call......just like with the TO situations.

Here's a thought? Wanna speed up play.....eliminate the TV (sorry.....media) time-out in that situation......$$$$$$$$$$$ says no way.

 

[punaj]

BF4L, I missed most of the Maui games, so I didn't see this play....was the player dribbling? My understanding is that the new rule covers situations where the player dribbles, but a violation could be called if say a player is trapped in the corner or along the sideline (don't know how that could happen....tic) for five seconds. However, I wouldn't be surprised if the official missed the call......just like with the TO situations.

Yeah, sounds right. No more 5 second calls as long as you are dribbling the ball, even if you are tightly guarded. You can get called if you are holding the ball, whether before or after you start/pick up your dribble.