new polling out

[qazplm]

"Trolling" is to make a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

I wasn't aiming for either. My comment was about the perceived infallibility of 538 and Nate Silver. And I don't believe anyone could reasonably read my post and find it offensive, provocative or upsetting. It was tongue-in-cheek. Hence, not "trolling."

more than one def of trolling. I said nothing about 538 or Silver being infallible. Neither did anyone else. So WTF are you talking about?

 

[TOKenBoiler]

more than one def of trolling. I said nothing about 538 or Silver being infallible. Neither did anyone else. So WTF are you talking about?

Thanks for reminding me why I hate Internet forums.

 

[lbodel]

actually the group with the largest turnout percentage...black women.

I think you are doing the standard liberal fear of winning thing...this is a real lead, its a solid lead, and its only going to get better. Embrace it.

It's more so Democrats tend to blow things - i.e. Kerry's campaign that had a backbone of a leaf.

Trump 100% has some things going for him - there are definitely moods that favor him, i.e. non-traditional politician. To ignore or downplay that is a mistake.

But like I've also mentioned, as of July 1, Clinton has a ground game in place that would totally demolish Trump's. In addition, there's also been plenty of talk about fundraising (Trump's campaign just announced a beefing up of their fundraising staff). Established ground game + major cash advantage = hard to overcome. But it's July - there's a long ways to go.

Bragging about polls in June and July means very little. The summer months are often spent framing the campaign and saying well she's winning in all of these polls does nothing to frame her as a candidate or who she's running against. That's a page out of Donald Trump's playbook - bragging about how popular you are in the Republican primary because he was basically a celebrity running.

 

[qazplm]

Thanks for reminding me why I hate Internet forums.

I'm ok with them when people actually read and respond to what was actually said.

 

[qazplm]

It's more so Democrats tend to blow things - i.e. Kerry's campaign that had a backbone of a leaf.

Trump 100% has some things going for him - there are definitely moods that favor him, i.e. non-traditional politician. To ignore or downplay that is a mistake.

But like I've also mentioned, as of July 1, Clinton has a ground game in place that would totally demolish Trump's. In addition, there's also been plenty of talk about fundraising (Trump's campaign just announced a beefing up of their fundraising staff). Established ground game + major cash advantage = hard to overcome. But it's July - there's a long ways to go.

Bragging about polls in June and July means very little. The summer months are often spent framing the campaign and saying well she's winning in all of these polls does nothing to frame her as a candidate or who she's running against. That's a page out of Donald Trump's playbook - bragging about how popular you are in the Republican primary because he was basically a celebrity running.

No one is "bragging" about polls, and your comment about Kerry just reinforces my point about liberal fears of losing. Hillary is many things but not having a backbone ain't remotely one of them.

Trump's numbers right now are historically low. That means something. His lack of funds and ground game mean something too. But the sheer size of her avg lead right now means something too. No one said it was dispositive or over, but it's an extraordinarily strong position for what should be a weak candidate.