New AD? Names?

[uelnesm]

As things get worse and worse. I fully expect Burke will "retire" in the next 2-4 weeks (could be is week). From there, a search committee will go forward to get an AD in place so they can hire a football coach at end of season.

Who are realistic AD options? I honestly have no idea. I think for this position - we have to target Power 5 heritage and experience to manage TV dollars and multiple programs.

Thoughts?

 

[pu1985]

Always thought Bart Burell would warrant a look. Former football Boiler (played with Hermann), very smart financial guy - bleeds gold and black. I believe he overcame some health issues aka Cuonzo Martin also.
Just a thought.

 

[lbodel]

As things get worse and worse. I fully expect Burke will "retire" in the next 2-4 weeks (could be is week). From there, a search committee will go forward to get an AD in place so they can hire a football coach at end of season.

Who are realistic AD options? I honestly have no idea. I think for this position - we have to target Power 5 heritage and experience to manage TV dollars and multiple programs.

Thoughts?

Is this based on your own intuition?

 

[BBG]

Is this based on your own intuition?

Seconded. Would love to hear the reasoning behind that post other than a "gut feeling" because I don't want to get my hopes up.

 

[BeerbellyBoiler]

Anyone not named Ryan Grigson.

 

[pb1941]

Always thought Bart Burell would warrant a look. Former football Boiler (played with Hermann), very smart financial guy - bleeds gold and black. I believe he overcame some health issues aka Cuonzo Martin also.
Just a thought.

The A.D. at Ohio U. his dad was the basketball coach. Jim Schaus

 

[Bigohh]

As things get worse and worse. I fully expect Burke will "retire" in the next 2-4 weeks (could be is week). From there, a search committee will go forward to get an AD in place so they can hire a football coach at end of season.

Who are realistic AD options? I honestly have no idea. I think for this position - we have to target Power 5 heritage and experience to manage TV dollars and multiple programs.

Thoughts?

How about Kim Il Jung???
Think he would accept this bs???

 

[Redhotfill]

this guy might have a clue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Armstrong

 

[uelnesm]

Seconded. Would love to hear the reasoning behind that post other than a "gut feeling" because I don't want to get my hopes up.

Rumblings...some chatter that this is a problem that could negatively impact some of the upcoming fundraising and celebrations. Also some timing considerations of addressing before basketball is in full swing and getting a new coach in place in time for recruiting. For all of that to happen - the dominos would need to start to fall soon. Seems to be recognition that AD needs involvement in new coach and putting a new coach in place under current regime may impact hiring of new AD in 1-2 years.

Grand plan was hazel was supposed to be making bowl games by now and continuing to improve. Therefore, hiring AD replacement for Burke into a stable situation.

Right now - nothing is stable and the chatter is best to address sooner rather than later.

Nothing is set in stone and no one is happy with buyouts. Hence, nothing may happen.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Seems to be recognition that AD needs involvement in new coach and putting a new coach in place under current regime may impact hiring of new AD in 1-2 years.

This component of our gigantic coaching CF is obvious to even the most casual observer.

 

[Cevol03]

I really don't think it is possible to have an AD in place by the end of November unless they have someone already lined up. I think otherwise it is a pipe dream. Not enough time for a national search. We really don't want to rush this.

 

[Cevol03]

It is better for Burke to pick the next coach than to rush our AD search and not get the right guy

 

[Courthouse Carp]

I really don't think it is possible to have an AD in place by the end of November unless they have someone already lined up. I think otherwise it is a pipe dream. Not enough time for a national search. We really don't want to rush this.

Of course not, it only needed to happen 10 years ago. <<<eye-roll>>> AND <<<egg-roll>>>

 

[Courthouse Carp]

It is better for Burke to pick the next coach than to rush our AD search and not get the right guy

WHAT??!! You must must be flipping-out of your mind and/or a PU Bird of Trustees??

 

[New Pal Boiler]

It is better for Burke to pick the next coach than to rush our AD search and not get the right guy

So it's better to rush the search for the guy with the $15 million guaranteed contract, and then take our time with the $500,000 per year hire?

You have DH3 on the payroll for 6 years, courtesy of Burke, that pretty much guarantees you WON'T get the right AD.

The fact that so many on this board want Morgan to blow another $12-15 million on a coach, after hiring 2 of the worst football coaches in the history of the school, is just astounding to me.

 

[Redhotfill]

So it's better to rush the search for the guy with the $15 million guaranteed contract, and then take our time with the $500,000 per year hire?

You have DH3 on the payroll for 6 years, courtesy of Burke, that pretty much guarantees you WON'T get the right AD.

The fact that so many on this board want Morgan to blow another $12-15 million on a coach, after hiring 2 of the worst football coaches in the history of the school, is just astounding to me.

So how much is the buy out for BURKE? I'm sure he would leave if they wrote him a check!

 

[Cevol03]

WHAT??!! You must must be flipping-out of your mind and/or a PU Bird of Trustees??

I think you are the crazy one. Our athletic department is a complete mess right now and you want to have a panic filled, quickie search for the next AD. I definitely do not want Burke to hire the next coach, but even more than that, I don't want to make a panic hire for AD.

 

[Cevol03]

Of course not, it only needed to happen 10 years ago. <<<eye-roll>>> AND <<<egg-roll>>>

We are talking about two different things. You are talking about the process of getting rid of Burke, I'm talking about the process of hiring his replacement. The first should happen fast, the second should not be rushed but should be well considered, deliberate, and thorough so that we get a home run hire.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

We are talking about two different things. You are talking about the process of getting rid of Burke, I'm talking about the process of hiring his replacement. The first should happen fast, the second should not be rushed but should be well considered, deliberate, and thorough so that we get a home run hire.

But you want to rush a $15 million coaching hire, and have Burke making the call, after hiring Moe and Larry on his last 2 attempts? Going for Curly this time?

 

[Courthouse Carp]

I think you are the crazy one. Our athletic department is a complete mess right now and you want to have a panic filled, quickie search for the next AD. I definitely do not want Burke to hire the next coach, but even more than that, I don't want to make a panic hire for AD. Not wanting to make a panic hire at AD is not the same thing as wanting to keep Burke or DH.

You either must be Captain Morgan's kid or nephew or unable to comprehend that there are much better qualified people for the AD position here who would be an instant improvement to this fiasco of an athletic department currently in place; Burke could be dismissed at any moment (asap preferably), an interim-AD be appointed and we can take our time finding a much better replacement (the bar isn't high here!). In fact, it has been done that way here when hiring University presidents the last 4-5 times, and none of those hires were hurried.

The INTERIM-AD, whomever that be, would be an instant improvement over LT. FAILBE.

 

[Redhotfill]

Hell Steve Beering could do a better job, and he was well Steve Beering. Don't get in a cross walk with him behind the wheel.

 

[Travisty13]

The A.D. at Ohio U. his dad was the basketball coach. Jim Schaus

We should have been on the phone with this guy weeks ago. He's a Purdue guy, his dad coached here. Has a very good eye for hiring coaches. Mark Turgeon and Gregg Marshall while at Wichita State and Jim Groce at Ohio.

 

[Courthouse Carp]

We are talking about two different things. You are talking about the process of getting rid of Burke, I'm talking about the process of hiring his replacement. The first should happen fast, the second should not be rushed but should be well considered, deliberate, and thorough so that we get a home run hire.

"So we get a home run hire"... like the LAST TIME??

Yes, we are in agreement on getting rid of Burke "first should happen fast", and I have never felt an immediate replacement in AD position should be rushed. So now I'm really wondering why you would say that Burke should be hiring a new fb coach?? Burke HAS TO GO BEFORE Hazell. We are on the hook to keep Hazell for 1-2 more years, that is one of the reasons we must get rid of Burke!!

You did read New Pal's post re: replacing Hazell $$ compared to replacing Burke $, right??

 

[Cevol03]

Courthouse, you are highlighting portions of my posts and then completely misreading what I'm saying. For example, when I was referring to a home run hire, I was talking about the AD not the football coach. Difficult to have a rational conversation with you.

By the way, flooding all these threads with a bunch of lame graphics is annoying

 

[Courthouse Carp]

Courthouse, you are highlighting portions of my posts and then completely misreading what I'm saying. For example, when I was referring to a home run hire, I was talking about the AD not the football coach. Difficult to have a rational conversation with you.

By the way, flooding all these threads with a bunch of lame graphics is annoying

I was talking about the same thing, if you can't keep up that is on you.

You just need to make your "vision come alive", Einstein:

 

[izakman]

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[BoilerStutz]

Both Michigan and Texas, which where struggling with football, put interim ADs in place. The interim at Mich was an old football man and he hired Harbaugh. So maybe you put a Pete Quinn or someone like that in Morgan's place to calm things down and to look at football with a more objective eye.

With Mitch in charge, this ain't ever going to happen. D

 

[ghostoffatjack]

Burke's not leaving with the upcoming promising BB season on the horizon, he would have to be FIRED...Daniels doesn't appear to have the stones to do it!

 

[To No]

Since we need a miracle to turn the program around, my vote is for as guy named Jesus Christ.

 

[boilermaker75]

Burke's not leaving with the upcoming promising BB season on the horizon, he would have to be FIRED...Daniels doesn't appear to have the stones to do it!

That would be admitting he was wrong in giving Burke a promotion in title and raise last year, something a politician does not do.

 

[ghostoffatjack]

That would be admitting he was wrong in giving Burke a promotion in title and raise last year, something a politician does not do.

All part of owning it!

 

[lbodel]

Rumblings...some chatter that this is a problem that could negatively impact some of the upcoming fundraising and celebrations. Also some timing considerations of addressing before basketball is in full swing and getting a new coach in place in time for recruiting. For all of that to happen - the dominos would need to start to fall soon. Seems to be recognition that AD needs involvement in new coach and putting a new coach in place under current regime may impact hiring of new AD in 1-2 years.

Grand plan was hazel was supposed to be making bowl games by now and continuing to improve. Therefore, hiring AD replacement for Burke into a stable situation.

Right now - nothing is stable and the chatter is best to address sooner rather than later.

Nothing is set in stone and no one is happy with buyouts. Hence, nothing may happen.

This sounds nothing more than message board talk. To hire an AD would right now would be tough. And hiring an AD in 2 years with a new coach two years in is perfectly fine.

 

[IamBob]

Theo Epstein

 

[Heiner]

Nancy Cross. That's some funny ...

 

[pu1985]

Nancy Cross. That's some funny ...

Well if they need someone to drive the beer cart...: