Overall, most importantly, Purdue needs to get through the first round. Something we didn't do for the first time under Painter last year.
Sorry, back to being Debbie Downer...
NCAA SEEDING?
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Overall, most importantly, Purdue needs to get through the first round. Something we didn't do for the first time under Painter last year.
Sorry, back to being Debbie Downer...
Yep. I don't see V dropping from an overall #1 a few weeks ago clear to a #2, but one never knows. I'd take NC ahead of some #2s. If there is ever a year for the #1s to fall, this is it.
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Lunardi has MSU as the last #1 and Oregon as the first #2. So obviously MSU winning or losing tomorrow could matter.
It does matter, the outcome matters and the manner in which it happens matters. if one or the other team flat-out chokes, it has grave consequences to the chokee
So they are going to create 2 totally separate brackets where Oregon is a #1 in one and MSU in another and wait for the BTT result? Do you know how difficult that would be? Even if you flip them as the 1/2 in the same region you would have to have no other B1G/PAC teams in that region. Not to mention screwing up the pods for travel considerations.
They've said that they create contingency plans if the outcome of a game would change anything. I'd guess they have the bracket mostly done already. There aren't a lot of games today. And I don't think you'd see an overall bracket change wildly as the travel considerations are only so meaningful.
Since 1985, the #3 seed has won the tourney 4 times. Only once has a #4 seed won it. A #5 has never won it. A #3 seed would be a big boost to the team's chances based on past results.
All of the common taters said that sparty would be a one seed all year long. If we beat them twice, why shouldn't we be a 1? .... should be a 2 at the least.
Interesting that a #5 has never won it. Didn't Arizona win it one year as a #7?
Pretty sure "commentator opionion" isn't a top criterion for the committee.
Iowa also beat them twice so what should they be?
Travel considerations are a much bigger factor since they went to the pod system a few years ago.
Arizona was a #4 in 1997 (with Mike Bibby), and beat three #1's on the way to the title.
UConn most recently in 2014 was a #7
NC State in 83 was a #6
and probably the most notable "Cinderella" was Villanova as a #8 in '85 over Georgetown.
It can happen, but a team has to have play-makers and survive some make/break moments to do it.
They are a factor - but it's not like every team plays as close as possible. There will be east coast teams that play on the west coast.
Of course. But the top 4 seeds are protected and will play reasonably close to home. So if they flip MSU frmo a 2 to 1 they have to flip their whole pod because they wouldn't send them out west to play in whatever 1-16-8-9 group that Oregon was going to play in.
That is an interesting point.....and that might be one of the reasons those seed lines are set. Even though it's easier to "flip" with pods than the prior system, there's the other bracket piece with a "protected" seed in each pod,
I think.
Oregon is likely to be in Spokane pod.....a few choices for Michigan State, St. Louis, Des Moines, or OK City?
Whatever they decide to seed us, the common taters wont give us any respect at all, just like every year before. And yes, I know that their opinion doesn't mean squat. That's why they are just common taters.
Not that it really matters, but Palm has Purdue as a 3; Lunardi, USA Today, WaPo, Bleacher Report, and SBNation all have them as a 4.
I still believe both MSU and Purdue's seeds will be dictated by the outcome of today's game. 1/4 (MSU win) or 2/3 (Purdue).
I still believe both MSU and Purdue's seeds will be dictated by the outcome of today's game. 1/4 (MSU win) or 2/3 (Purdue).
Exactly, but you're talking about 2 brackets.
First off, there's the question on whether winning or losing will significantly change a team's situation. Keep in mind it's still only 1 game out of an entire season. I think the more realistic thing to say is that 1 game, even it's a conference tournament championship game, does not impact a team's seed as much as you'd think.
There's 2 games that could impact top 4 seeds today. For Texas A&M, the question is whether they have a 4 seed in the committee's eyes or not (likely yes). If yes, the game is probably rather meaningless and the outcome will not change anything.
For Purdue, the question is whether the committee has them as a 3 or a 4 seed right now. If they are already a 3, then they will not go higher and they will not go lower with the outcome of today's game. If they are currently borderline 3/4, then they could go from a 4 to a 3 with a win.
For Michigan State, a win and they are likely a #1 seed. A loss - and maybe they still are a #1 seed, or they flip with Villanova and Villanova is the #1, MSU the #2. Either way, I don't think it would change that much - Villanova would be the fourth #1 seed, which means they get slotted into the St. Louis location (which is where MSU is currently in Lunardi's bracket). Then MSU is probably put in the St. Louis #2 seed, with Xavier being pushed to the Brooklyn #2 seed.
Overall, it's not like these games will cause the committee to spend hours re-seeding/placing teams. And it may all be a moot point - the committee may view MSU right now as a #2 seed still no matter what. Or it may conclude that if MSU loses to a top 15 Purdue team, they shouldn't drop from a #1 to a #2. So the outcomes of today's games may still have 0 impact on the seeding/bracket.
Joey Brackets now has Michigan as Last Four in? Crazy times until the official bracket is released.
And South Carolina and Vandy first four out.
I'm really going to lol if the SEC only gets two schools in (UK, TXAM). Having only two locks is lol already. What a piss-poor conference.
I'm really going to lol if the SEC only gets two schools in (UK, TXAM). Having only two locks is lol already. What a piss-poor conference.
