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Yep. Plus if you play the same drop coverage every time, you allow the player to get into a rhythm. Which JHS clearly did.
The "drop coverage" was clearly in play with X Johnson and some with JHS who had his career game even if he had stayed four years perhaps. The other D issue was a result of a concern for the 3 ball in how Purdue chases a player on that baseline to wing screen ...UP. Purdue "follows" the player to eliminate the offensive player from stopping behind a screen and shooting a 3 ball, and then becomes behind the player as that player curls into the lane with the Purdue player behind. Definitely the way to play a shooter, but not so much for a driver since you are behind him driving the ball. I consider JHS and X drivers more than shooters.
 
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He did not get to pick who drafted him, someone could have picked him sooner.
Just enjoy the loosier rationalisations. LOL
I sure am.
Don't you know they had a secret deal and the whole league knew not to draft him because he wanted to play for GS?
Well established "fact" at this point. (kinda like trump facts..........._)
Silly Boiler.
 
I doubt he cares if he is on the roster or g league. He received a guaranteed 3 year contract!
 
Seems odd to me. The way it reads, its as if TJD would not sign an NBA contract if selected.

I guess maybe Europe would be an option.

Seems like the goal would be the NBA though.
He had a promise of a guaranteed contract from Dunleavy, so his agent (Dunleavy’s brother) was telling teams, “if you don’t give us a guaranteed contract, we’re not signing”, essentially.
 
I read it as in all the first round teams that passed on him would regret it, because he knew GSW was guaranteeing him a roster spot and a contract.
He was never going to be a first round pick. The timing of the tweet is important. He tweeted it out when he was still on the board late and teams weren’t showing interest.
 
I’ve seen TJD compared to Aaron Gordon of the Nuggets and I see no reason why he can’t develop into a similar type of player.

Edit: or at least a poor man’s version of Gordon.
 
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He was never going to be a first round pick. The timing of the tweet is important. He tweeted it out when he was still on the board late and teams weren’t showing interest.
Buchanan basically said that’s what happened. Why would he lie ?
 
Buchanan basically said that’s what happened. Why would he lie ?
Buchanan would be one specific team that may have been interested in him at pick 55. Again, if teams in the 30s were calling him to draft him, then why would TJD be subtweeting all these teams for passing him up if he already had a deal in place with GS?
 
I would have liked to see the Bucks draft him, but Golden st grabbed him. I think the bucks best pickup was the undrafted guy from Gonzagaga. He seems like he could become a clone of Lopez.
 
Was Dray Green considered a good shooter out of MSU? I do not recall. I know he was a good rebounder and defender. Maybe Jr. sees that in TJD.
Dray improved a ton in the nba. He was over weight at MSU (nickname was the dancing bear) but showed good movement ant his size, great court awareness and could shoot if needed. Trevion Williams game reminded me of draymond at msu but better passing in exchange for worse range on shooting. Draymond had the meanness/killer instinct in him as well.
 
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Buchanan would be one specific team that may have been interested in him at pick 55. Again, if teams in the 30s were calling him to draft him, then why would TJD be subtweeting all these teams for passing him up if he already had a deal in place with GS?
How do you know he wasn’t referring to teams that either
A) passed on him in the first round, or
B) refused to offer a guaranteed contract in the second round?
 
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How do you know he wasn’t referring to teams that either
A) passed on him in the first round, or
B) refused to offer a guaranteed contract in the second round?
The fact that he tweeted it towards the end of the draft instead of right after the first round, plus the fact that no one projected him as a first rounder in the first place, implies that it has nothing to with the first round but instead has to do with the fact that he was still on the board so late in the draft. Regardless, if teams were calling him to draft him and he turned them down as you’re implying, there’s nothing really for teams to regret, so his tweet makes no sense. If he thinks he’s good enough to be a first rounder, then what does it matter if it’s a guaranteed contract or not? He would earn one anyways. If he caused himself to drop 20+ spots in the draft because a team wouldn’t guarantee him a 3 year contract as a second rounder, he’s either a complete idiot at worst or completely full of himself at best. Maybe both.
 
The fact that he tweeted it towards the end of the draft instead of right after the first round, plus the fact that no one projected him as a first rounder in the first place, implies that it has nothing to with the first round but instead has to do with the fact that he was still on the board so late in the draft. Regardless, if teams were calling him to draft him and he turned them down as you’re implying, there’s nothing really for teams to regret, so his tweet makes no sense. If he thinks he’s good enough to be a first rounder, then what does it matter if it’s a guaranteed contract or not? He would earn one anyways. If he caused himself to drop 20+ spots in the draft because a team wouldn’t guarantee him a 3 year contract as a second rounder, he’s either a complete idiot at worst or completely full of himself at best. Maybe both.
None of that disproves either scenario.
 
The fact that he tweeted it towards the end of the draft instead of right after the first round, plus the fact that no one projected him as a first rounder in the first place, implies that it has nothing to with the first round but instead has to do with the fact that he was still on the board so late in the draft. Regardless, if teams were calling him to draft him and he turned them down as you’re implying, there’s nothing really for teams to regret, so his tweet makes no sense. If he thinks he’s good enough to be a first rounder, then what does it matter if it’s a guaranteed contract or not? He would earn one anyways. If he caused himself to drop 20+ spots in the draft because a team wouldn’t guarantee him a 3 year contract as a second rounder, he’s either a complete idiot at worst or completely full of himself at best. Maybe both.
It's already been established that his tweet came from being passed over in the 1st round... And considering a lot of guys in front of him are going to be on two way contracts and he will be on a full NBA contract... How does that make him an idiot?
 
Tjd will never play a minute in the nba
Seriously? I don't get the hate. When Keady and Knight were there and good in state or very local players good games, good teams, Big 10 was better.

TJD was a really good college player and not a bad guy or anything , why would you hope for that? You must be like 12? He isn't going to be a star but he will get minutes for sure.
 
Seriously? I don't get the hate. When Keady and Knight were there and good in state or very local players good games, good teams, Big 10 was better.

TJD was a really good college player and not a bad guy or anything , why would you hope for that? You must be like 12? He isn't going to be a star but he will get minutes for sure.
When Painter told the story of TJD calling him after Biggie died to send his condolences - I gained a different level of respect for him.

Kudos to him for locking into a multi-year deal. Also, kudos to his team for not letting him see the court until he signed that contract.
 
Def not true on the only go to your left comment. Took what was given to him
I'll never understand this. It wasn't given to him. Since he arrived at IU, everyone knew he only goes to the left. It's all people talked about when discussing his weaknesses. Everyone knew it and prepared for it. And yet, after 4 years of Div. 1 basketball he was still unstoppable only going to the left.

I don't know if he'll be able to do it in the NBA, but we'll find out.
 
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I'll never understand this. It wasn't given to him. Since he arrived at IU, everyone knew he only goes to the left. It's all people talked about when discussing his weaknesses. Everyone knew it and prepared for it. And yet, after 4 years of Div. 1 basketball he was still unstoppable only going to the left.

I don't know if he'll be able to do it in the NBA, but we'll find out.
unstoppable? ;)
 
Yep. Plus if you play the same drop coverage every time, you allow the player to get into a rhythm. Which JHS clearly did.
All the more reason to mix it up with the type of point zone defense that Miami used so effectively at times in the nba playoffs.

Dub, @DubJellison , can you use your insider status and influence to tell CMP there is a groundswell of support from knowledgeable fans for him to try a Heat-type zone from time to time?

We're counting on you, Dub.
 
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All the more reason to mix it up with the type of point zone defense that Miami used so effectively at times in the nba playoffs.

Dub, @DubJellison , can you use your insider status and influence to tell CMP there is a groundswell of support from knowledgeable fans for him to try a Heat-type zone from time to time?

We're counting on you, Dub.
Groundswell?
Knowledgeable??
 
All the more reason to mix it up with the type of point zone defense that Miami used so effectively at times in the nba playoffs.

Dub, @DubJellison , can you use your insider status and influence to tell CMP there is a groundswell of support from knowledgeable fans for him to try a Heat-type zone from time to time?

We're counting on you, Dub.
* Zones don't work
* not enough time to practice multiple defenses
* college kids are just too good at shooting for it to be effective
*nobody plays a zone anymore

Just a sample of the responses we get anytime this subject comes up. All of the excuses are wrong but it doesn't keep people from posting them. CMP just doesn't believe in them. Poor excuse, but it's the only one that is actually true.
 
* Zones don't work
* not enough time to practice multiple defenses
* college kids are just too good at shooting for it to be effective
*nobody plays a zone anymore

Just a sample of the responses we get anytime this subject comes up. All of the excuses are wrong but it doesn't keep people from posting them. CMP just doesn't believe in them. Poor excuse, but it's the only one that is actually true.
True, but I am hoping against hope that CMP saw the Heat's success in using a zone and will rethink it.
 
I’m also hoping tomorrow I wake up next to Kate Upton and a billion dollars in my bank account, but that ain’t happening.

To quote the great Kevin Costner in The Guardian “hope don’t float”.
No offense, but I don't think she would like your teeth.

She would probably like your humor, however.
 
No offense, but I don't think she would like your teeth.

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* Zones don't work
* not enough time to practice multiple defenses
* college kids are just too good at shooting for it to be effective
*nobody plays a zone anymore

Just a sample of the responses we get anytime this subject comes up. All of the excuses are wrong but it doesn't keep people from posting them. CMP just doesn't believe in them. Poor excuse, but it's the only one that is actually true.
True. And it's the only one that truly matters.
 
When I first started reading your post, I thought, “Hey this guy gets it!”. I’m nodding in agreement with each bullet. Then I read you dis each of these points. Your fact-based statement is that they are “excuses”? Wow! You really didn’t explain your point. May I ask what hell males you think a zone works in todays game?

Now, I’m no expert on defenses, but isnt Purdue’s switching man-to-man very close to a zone, but with much better rebounding capability?

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* Zones don't work
* not enough time to practice multiple defenses
* college kids are just too good at shooting for it to be effective
*nobody plays a zone anymore

Just a sample of the responses we get anytime this subject comes up. All of the excuses are wrong but it doesn't keep people from posting them. CMP just doesn't believe in them. Poor excuse, but it's the only one that is actually true.
t, t
 
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