My Weekly CBB Top 25

[Bank Shot Podcast]

No SOS is also used to seed the good teams - used as a tool to decipher the subtle differences between teams with similar resumes. Why does the committee use wins over Quad 1, 2, etc? Same reason

It depends. Most of the teams already have a bunch of Q1A, Q1B and Q2 games because they likely are playing in the B1G, Big 12, SEC or ACC(especially now with super conferences). But it's not always been that way and the committee went more off the eye test. SOS is just a tool and normally just a crap argument.

 

[SaratogaBoiler1]

It depends. Most of the teams already have a bunch of Q1A, Q1B and Q2 games because they likely are playing in the B1G, Big 12, SEC or ACC(especially now with super conferences). But it's not always been that way and the committee went more off the eye test. SOS is just a tool and normally just a crap argument.

This is from the 2023 NCAA selection website:

“Among the resources available to the committee are an extensive season-long evaluation of teams through watching games, conference monitoring calls and NABC regional advisory rankings; complete box scores and results, head-to-head results, results versus common opponents, imbalanced conference schedules and results, overall and non-conference strength of schedule, the quality of wins and losses, road record, player and coach availability and various computer metrics.”

So yes SOS is used and it’s your opinion that it’s a crap argument. Seems to me it would be very useful for say 2 similar teams from different conferences vying for say a top 4 seed with the S curve. One of many factors yes but it’s clearly important.

 

[SaratogaBoiler1]

I don't care about kenpom. I give the ratings zero thought when I'm ranking teams.

Well I think you should going forward that’s for sure

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Agree with most of that save one item. While the roster of 13 can be looked at as young, the starters are not.

Purdue is the second youngest in conference

 

[northside100]

This is from the 2023 NCAA selection website:

“Among the resources available to the committee are an extensive season-long evaluation of teams through watching games, conference monitoring calls and NABC regional advisory rankings; complete box scores and results, head-to-head results, results versus common opponents, imbalanced conference schedules and results, overall and non-conference strength of schedule, the quality of wins and losses, road record, player and coach availability and various computer metrics.”

So yes SOS is used and it’s your opinion that it’s a crap argument. Seems to me it would be very useful for say 2 similar teams from different conferences vying for say a top 4 seed with the S curve. One of many factors yes but it’s clearly important.

Don't feed the trolls

 

[northside100]

Purdue is the second youngest in conference

Starters or overall roster?

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Starters or overall roster?

Overall:

 

[purduehayseed]

"I'm not someone who cares so much about SOS."

so, in your mind, if Purdue only played teams like North Dakota SW, or Saint George U, or any other community college, and Purdue beats each team by 80+, they are the best in the nation.


"I don't care about kenpom. I give the ratings zero thought when I'm ranking teams."

sorry. i give zero thought to your rankings.

your "thought" process and reasoning and "cares" show you have 2 brain cells.
...and they are fighting each other for 3rd place.

 

[boilerzz]

Overall:

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Wild that the 2 oldest teams are likely the two worst teams.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Wild that the 2 oldest teams are likely the two worst teams.

Washington is pretty bad too. Tucker bringing that age down for IU 😂

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

"I'm not someone who cares so much about SOS."

so, in your mind, if Purdue only played teams like North Dakota SW, or Saint George U, or any other community college, and Purdue beats each team by 80+, they are the best in the nation.


"I don't care about kenpom. I give the ratings zero thought when I'm ranking teams."

sorry. i give zero thought to your rankings.

your "thought" process and reasoning and "cares" show you have 2 brain cells.
...and they are fighting each other for 3rd place.

Cool story bro. Yea if Purdue was out here bearing those teams by 80+, yea I'd have them #1 by now probably. That'd be stupidly impressive to be 10-0 and a winning margin of 80.

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

This is from the 2023 NCAA selection website:

“Among the resources available to the committee are an extensive season-long evaluation of teams through watching games, conference monitoring calls and NABC regional advisory rankings; complete box scores and results, head-to-head results, results versus common opponents, imbalanced conference schedules and results, overall and non-conference strength of schedule, the quality of wins and losses, road record, player and coach availability and various computer metrics.”

So yes SOS is used and it’s your opinion that it’s a crap argument. Seems to me it would be very useful for say 2 similar teams from different conferences vying for say a top 4 seed with the S curve. One of many factors yes but it’s clearly important.

I'm not the committee now am I?

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

Washington is pretty bad too. Tucker bringing that age down for IU 😂

Minnesota does have a guy that's in his 8th year... Lol. I'm assuming this will go down a hair next year with the COVID years finally ending.

 

[RossMackey]

I'm not the committee now am I?

Certainly not.

You’re just some poseur wannabe who’s demonstrably wrong over and over and over again…
You actually fancy yourself as some kind of basketball authority?
🙄😂🙄😂😂😂

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Minnesota does have a guy that's in his 8th year... Lol. I'm assuming this will go down a hair next year with the COVID years finally ending.

Yup. Purdue will have one of the older teams and IU will have a brand new team with all transfers, no clue if they’ll all be older or younger.

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

Yup. Purdue will have one of the older teams and IU will have a brand new team with all transfers, no clue if they’ll all be older or younger.

Well that's how it'll have to be. As of now Rice, Carlyle, Mgbako, Tucker, Reneau, Newton and Cupps all returning. Sisley coming in. So looking at probably 3-4 transfers. And that's dependant on which of those 7 decide to leave.

 

[BBG]

Certainly not.

You’re just some poseur wannabe who’s demonstrably wrong over and over and over again…
You actually fancy yourself as some kind of basketball authority?
🙄😂🙄😂😂😂

In his own mind anyway.

 

[SaratogaBoiler1]

I'm not the committee now am I?

Clearly

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

Certainly not.

You’re just some poseur wannabe who’s demonstrably wrong over and over and over again…
You actually fancy yourself as some kind of basketball authority?
🙄😂🙄😂😂😂

Well I was wrong about Purdue beating Marquette and Penn State.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Well that's how it'll have to be. As of now Rice, Carlyle, Mgbako, Tucker, Reneau, Newton and Cupps all returning. Sisley coming in. So looking at probably 3-4 transfers. And that's dependant on which of those 7 decide to leave.

Lmao. Cupps and Newton are gone regardless—they aren’t getting PT.

If IU has the season that most fans want, Rice, Carlyle, Reneau, Mgbako and Tucker are all gone with the departure of Woodson. So IU would be looking at a whole new roster….unless super seniors, Leal and Galloway, are back again?

 

[northside100]

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Makes sense. Five freshmen, no fifth or sixth year guys, one senior (although Trey is also in his fourth year).

Remember when someone used to constantly post here that redshirting was a waste and an obsolete practice?

 

[RossMackey]

Well I was wrong about Purdue beating Marquette and Penn State.

Help me understand, Wrong Shot:

What compelled you to come here and spout your super-scary hoops intellect? Are any other fan sites unfortunate enough to be subjected to your brilliance?

I’m guessing you’re simply the latest in the parade of indinia fanbois who are desperate for validation from BIg Brother.

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

Help me understand, Wrong Shot:

What compelled you to come here and spout your super-scary hoops intellect? Are any other fan sites unfortunate enough to be subjected to your brilliance?

I’m guessing you’re simply the latest in the parade of indinia fanbois who are desperate for validation from BIg Brother.

Are you bothered by opinions that don't like exactly with yours?

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

Lmao. Cupps and Newton are gone regardless—they aren’t getting PT.

If IU has the season that most fans want, Rice, Carlyle, Reneau, Mgbako and Tucker are all gone with the departure of Woodson. So IU would be looking at a whole new roster….unless super seniors, Leal and Galloway, are back again?

Leal and Galloway can't come back. This is their COVID year. But Rice, Carlyle, Reneau, Mgbako and Tucker don't have any sort of NBA stock at the moment unless they are transferring. And them transferring would probably be determined on who the next coach is. As for Newton, he could leave and go back down south. It's just been a super rough go for him because of all the injuries. This year is the first year he's really been able to play in a game since his Junior year of HS I think. I don't see Cupps leaving. Unless he wants to drop down a level to play.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Leal and Galloway can't come back. This is their COVID year. But Rice, Carlyle, Reneau, Mgbako and Tucker don't have any sort of NBA stock at the moment unless they are transferring. And them transferring would probably be determined on who the next coach is. As for Newton, he could leave and go back down south. It's just been a super rough go for him because of all the injuries. This year is the first year he's really been able to play in a game since his Junior year of HS I think. I don't see Cupps leaving. Unless he wants to drop down a level to play.

 

[RossMackey]

Are you bothered by opinions that don't like exactly with yours?

got it.

So this is about the only place tolerant enough to entertain your being wrong over and over and over and over again......

 

[RossMackey]

Are you bothered by opinions that don't like exactly with yours?

I read these forums to learn.

I’ve learned that Wrong Shot is not remotely as knowledgeable as he tries to come across….

I need to thank you for helping me understand this.

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

got it.

So this is about the only place tolerant enough to entertain your being wrong over and over and over and over again......

I'm still waiting to know what I was wrong about🤷‍♂️

 

[RossMackey]

I'm still waiting to know what I was wrong about🤷‍♂️

Wrong Shot:
You don’t have the courage to answer any of my questions— explain why should I bother with yours?

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

Wrong Shot:
You don’t have the courage to answer any of my questions— explain why should I bother with yours?

Oh here. I'll answeryour 2 questions

1. I want to because unlike many others, I like talking to other fan bases and not just getting stuck in a bubble.

2. Yea, I'm around a lot of other fan bases and have been for over a decade, starting at ESPN when they still had real comment sections.

 

[boilernuke]

Oh here. I'll answeryour 2 questions

1. I want to because unlike many others, I like talking to other fan bases and not just getting stuck in a bubble.

2. Yea, I'm around a lot of other fan bases and have been for over a decade, starting at ESPN when they still had real comment sections.

That's hard to believe because I pegged you as a middle schooler based on intellect and maturity of your posts

 

[BBG]

Yea, I'm around a lot of other fan bases

You should spend more time at those "other fan bases" as opposed to obsessing over what goes on here.

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

You should spend more time at those "other fan bases" as opposed to obsessing over what goes on here.

Calm down commie.

 

[BBG]

Calm down commie.

Go spend time with your kids deadbeat "dad".

 

[Poprudy]

Go spend time with your kids deadbeat "dad".

He's not a "dad"....no way! He reminds me of a juvenile that has nothing better to do in life, but to be here. 🤬

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Well that wasn’t very good for IUs NET rating

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

Well that wasn’t very good for IUs NET rating

It was great for Nebraskas offensive efficiency. Shot 61% from the field. Guarantee they don't come close to that again this year.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

It was great for Nebraskas offensive efficiency. Shot 61% from the field. Guarantee they don't come close to that again this year.

If they play IU they will. It’s IU’s defensive strategy.