MP should have called a TO right before halftime.

[bonefish1]

I think we got the ball with about 11.8 left.
PJ sees an open lane, (I think he was baited into driving), drives, misses, they rebound and get a shooting foul on the other end with .8 left.
Why didn't MP either:
A) Call a TO to set up an actual play?
B) Replace PJ with Hill? I'd rather have Hill taking an open instead of PJ.
C) Use that situation to work on a specific play for later in the year?

Either way, MP should have used a TO.

 

[SIBoiler2]

Clearly MP sucks and we will be lucky to win 3 games the rest of the year!!!

 

[bonefish1]

Clearly MP sucks and we will be lucky to win 3 games the rest of the year!!!

Take it easy fella.....I never said Painter sucks. I was expressing an opinion that I think he should have used a TO to make an adjustment or switch.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

I could not disagree more. We were starting to play great at the end of the half. PJ went all commando. He made a mistake. I'm sure he won't do it again and played a great game other than that play, which was obviously awful and killed our momentum. But your players have to know the situation. CMP can't micromanage every second of the game.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

I could not disagree more. We were starting to play great at the end of the half. PJ went all commando. He made a mistake. I'm sure he won't do it again and played a great game other than that play, which was obviously awful and killed our momentum. But your players have to know the situation. CMP can't micromanage every second of the game.

Tend to agree here....just think PJT needed to look to drop it off or kick it out rather than the ill-advised drive all the way to the rim. I'm fairly confident he was told that or will be in film session.

 

[Chuchumutha]

Tend to agree here....just think PJT needed to look to drop it off or kick it out rather than the ill-advised drive all the way to the rim. I'm fairly confident he was told that or will be in film session.

Painter lit him up when got back to the bench. So, yes, there was a teaching moment.

 

[lbodel]

I think we got the ball with about 11.8 left.
PJ sees an open lane, (I think he was baited into driving), drives, misses, they rebound and get a shooting foul on the other end with .8 left.
Why didn't MP either:
A) Call a TO to set up an actual play?
B) Replace PJ with Hill? I'd rather have Hill taking an open instead of PJ.
C) Use that situation to work on a specific play for later in the year?

Either way, MP should have used a TO.

At the end of the game in his ESPNU interview, Painter said he played a great game except for making a dumb mistake at the end of the first half. You don't necessarily have to call a timeout to set up an actual play - Painter obviously was not happy with the outcome, which leads me to believe that he was SUPPOSED to do something and did not do that. So I'm guessing the play that Painter wanted him to run, PJ screwed up.

Mistakes happen.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

I think we got the ball with about 11.8 left.
PJ sees an open lane, (I think he was baited into driving), drives, misses, they rebound and get a shooting foul on the other end with .8 left.
Why didn't MP either:
A) Call a TO to set up an actual play?
B) Replace PJ with Hill? I'd rather have Hill taking an open instead of PJ.
C) Use that situation to work on a specific play for later in the year?

Either way, MP should have used a TO.

I would love to hear your reason for trusting Hill more than PJ on a three point shot.

At this point in the season, Thompson has the third highest 3pt shooting percentage on the team at nearly 39% behind only Hammons (4/4) and Davis (42%). Hill clocks in a whopping 0% and has taken three 3's all season. Thompson has established himself as a threat outside the arc while Hill has yet to do that this season.

 

[PurdueCF12]

P.J. went WAY too early. Painter said as much.

 

[BBG]

Mistake was made. Painter addressed it. Nothing to see here... moving along

 

[PaBoiler78]

Mistake was made. Painter addressed it. Nothing to see here... moving along

the only mistake was PJ missing the layup and he did play well too. Nice to see Coach calling a TO w/ .8 but CS throws into a pile while missing a wide open guy at mid court.

 

[bonefish1]

I would love to hear your reason for trusting Hill more than PJ on a three point shot.

At this point in the season, Thompson has the third highest 3pt shooting percentage on the team at nearly 39% behind only Hammons (4/4) and Davis (42%). Hill clocks in a whopping 0% and has taken three 3's all season. Thompson has established himself as a threat outside the arc while Hill has yet to do that this season.

I didn't say that Hill should have taken a 3. But, if the lane were open and that's what the PG decides to do, I'd rather have Hill making that move instead of PJ.
What I think Painter should have done was have Hill, Mathias, Stephens AJ and Cline on the floor for that last play. Run a play to get one of those guys open for a jumper, send AJ to crash the board. Just don't leave time for the other team to get anything.
If all that breaks down, let Hill try to take his man one on one. Again, Hill would have been the better option.

 

[FirstDownB]

We are into the nit picking details, which is a good sign really. But I had the same thought (see game thread). Upon further thought, if it is your coaching philosophy not to call a TO in that situation then fine, but the players need to know to hold for the last shot in a close game where 1 possession could make the difference. If that lesson was learned by them personally experiencing the resulting failure then terrific I say. ps- In general I see end of half clock management as an area for improvement across the college game. You almost never, for instance, see the awareness to go 2 for 1.

 

[lbodel]

We are into the nit picking details, which is a good sign really. But I had the same thought (see game thread). Upon further thought, if it is your coaching philosophy not to call a TO in that situation then fine, but the players need to know to hold for the last shot in a close game where 1 possession could make the difference. If that lesson was learned by them personally experiencing the resulting failure then terrific I say. ps- In general I see end of half clock management as an area for improvement across the college game. You almost never, for instance, see the awareness to go 2 for 1.

I don't think it's his "philosophy" to not call a timeout. I think he called the play and was disappointed at the execution of the play. It's no different than calling a timeout, setting a play up, and the player not executing the play as drawn up.

 

[FirstDownB]

I don't think it's his "philosophy" to not call a timeout. I think he called the play and was disappointed at the execution of the play. It's no different than calling a timeout, setting a play up, and the player not executing the play as drawn up.

It is sort of a coaching philosophy/judgment call whether or not to call a TO on that situation. Some coaches prefer not to call one because it allows the defense to get set up. Those teams tend to be strong transition teams with experienced guards. Some prefer to call the TO and make sure they have the offensive players they want on the floor and to make sure each of them understands what their role in the play is, such as the ball handler knowing not to go until a certain time on the clock.

 

[lbodel]

It is sort of a coaching philosophy/judgment call whether or not to call a TO on that situation. Some coaches prefer not to call one because it allows the defense to get set up. Those teams tend to be strong transition teams with experienced guards. Some prefer to call the TO and make sure they have the offensive players they want on the floor and to make sure each of them understands what their role in the play is, such as the ball handler knowing not to go until a certain time on the clock.

But again, does Painter let it play out every single time? I've seen him call a timeout in that situation. Thus, I don't think it's his "philosophy"...

 

[FirstDownB]

But again, does Painter let it play out every single time? I've seen him call a timeout in that situation. Thus, I don't think it's his "philosophy"...

Ok fair enough. Maybe philosophy was the wrong word. Maybe it's just me wanting to see the same thought given in January as in March.