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Michigan at Purdue: MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD

OSU loss stung, but wow you have to love that response from the team.

It's kind of wild that Purdue is now the small team pressuring the team with a huge size advantage and making their lives miserable.

It just shows how good CMP is IMO.

Also, that Furst alley oops was my favorite play of the game. Caleb got up and put that down with authority. That looked like those Mr Basketball and Freshman year dunks you see in his highlights. Love the emotion and that he's getting opportunity to give it his all his last year. He gets better every week IMO. Really, really happy for who seems to be such a great young man and Boilermaker.
 
OSU loss stung, but wow you have to love that response from the team.

It's kind of wild that Purdue is now the small team pressuring the team with a huge size advantage and making their lives miserable.

It just shows how good CMP is IMO.

Also, that Furst alley oops was my favorite play of the game. Caleb got up and put that down with authority. That looked like those Mr Basketball and Freshman year dunks you see in his highlights. Love the emotion and that he's getting opportunity to give it his all his last year. He gets better every week IMO. Really, really happy for who seems to be such a great young man and Boilermaker.

Caleb Furst giving Purdue that paint presence on both ends.....high wire act here.

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I’m not sure I can ever remember having a 22-6 turnover advantage against a quality Big Ten opponent, at least not in the last 10+ years when Purdue has generally focused on sound defense and featured a lot of post touches on offense. Turnover differential is now where Purdue has been gaining its greatest advantage.

A big part of the reason from what I see is that Smith doesn’t have to carry the whole load anymore with Cox and Harris and even Colvin stepping up.

But, what I didn’t see coming is the way that Purdue’s defense is forcing turnovers in large numbers on the other end. I have not enjoyed watching Purdue play defense this much since the days of Chris Kramer because this group is so connected. It actually reminds me of what I saw Marquette do to Purdue early in the season.
 
I’m not sure I can ever remember having a 22-6 turnover advantage against a quality Big Ten opponent, at least not in the last 10+ years when Purdue has generally focused on sound defense and featured a lot of post touches on offense. Turnover differential is now where Purdue has been gaining its greatest advantage.

A big part of the reason from what I see is that Smith doesn’t have to carry the whole load anymore with Cox and Harris and even Colvin stepping up.

But, what I didn’t see coming is the way that Purdue’s defense is forcing turnovers in large numbers on the other end. I have not enjoyed watching Purdue play defense this much since the days of Chris Kramer because this group is so connected. It actually reminds me of what I saw Marquette do to Purdue early in the season.

CJ Cox picking up deep in the back-court - love giving opponents a dose of their own medicine, and he has a little bit of that Walt Frazier pick-your-pocket ability - did it early last night.

Reading between the lines with Matt Painter, some of this might also be a silver lining from Jacobsen's unfortunate injury, combined with Caleb Furst back in the starting line-up. With no big rim protection, they've decided to really press up and stop the ball penetration even more, and Cox and Harris have started to come along and understand - plus, they have the quickness and Harris can get physical and is definitely more comfortable in his role. Furst's paint presence and activity/athleticism still makes that work. Then, depending upon what the opponent does, Smith gets a backside double opportunity or can roam in the passing lane - Purdue had 14 steals last night.

Also, the Boilers had just a ho-hum 44-point turnaround from the 2nd half Tuesday ( - 19) to the first half Friday (+25).

Want to see how this progresses and if sustained over the next several weeks, but it definitely raises the ceiling a little bit. I also want to see what they do again against the Kryptonite team with big, physical, athletic guards - Smith has a little more help, but it's still a work in progress, especially away from West Lafayette.

We shall see.

 
CJ Cox picking up deep in the back-court - love giving opponents a dose of their own medicine, and he has a little bit of that Walt Frazier pick-your-pocket ability - did it early last night.

Reading between the lines with Matt Painter, some of this might also be a silver lining from Jacobsen's unfortunate injury, combined with Caleb Furst back in the starting line-up. With no big rim protection, they've decided to really press up and stop the ball penetration even more, and Cox and Harris have started to come along and understand - plus, they have the quickness and Harris can get physical and is definitely more comfortable in his role. Furst's paint presence and activity/athleticism still makes that work. Then, depending upon what the opponent does, Smith gets a backside double opportunity or can roam in the passing lane - Purdue had 14 steals last night.

Also, the Boilers had just a ho-hum 44-point turnaround from the 2nd half Tuesday ( - 19) to the first half Friday (+25).

Want to see how this progresses and if sustained over the next several weeks, but it definitely raises the ceiling a little bit. I also want to see what they do again against the Kryptonite team with big, physical, athletic guards - Smith has a little more help, but it's still a work in progress, especially away from West Lafayette.

We shall see.

Yes! I love the way that Smith and Cox set the tone with what seemed like several steals right out of the gate!
 
Cox & Harris are good on ball defenders. Both switch well and cover. Both make things miserable for the opponent. Proud of how both have stepped up on D.

Harris at times will lose contact with a shooter to double or to slide inside. That needs work. That's how Thornton got the last three off in H1 the other night, and started the turn of that game.
 
I’m not sure I can ever remember having a 22-6 turnover advantage against a quality Big Ten opponent, at least not in the last 10+ years when Purdue has generally focused on sound defense and featured a lot of post touches on offense. Turnover differential is now where Purdue has been gaining its greatest advantage.

A big part of the reason from what I see is that Smith doesn’t have to carry the whole load anymore with Cox and Harris and even Colvin stepping up.

But, what I didn’t see coming is the way that Purdue’s defense is forcing turnovers in large numbers on the other end. I have not enjoyed watching Purdue play defense this much since the days of Chris Kramer because this group is so connected. It actually reminds me of what I saw Marquette do to Purdue early in the season.
osu had 18 TO's in our game and we still lost
 
osu had 18 TO's in our game and we still lost
Well us shooting terrible from 3 and then hitting more/consecutive ones in a run they had saved them. Also those 4-5 “throw it up as the shot clock expires” that went in, didn’t help either.

Ohio state got Purdue back on track last year and we almost had the exact same score this year…hopefully it gets them back on track/keeps them on track this year too.
 
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Cox & Harris are good on ball defenders. Both switch well and cover. Both make things miserable for the opponent. Proud of how both have stepped up on D.

Harris at times will lose contact with a shooter to double or to slide inside. That needs work. That's how Thornton got the last three off in H1 the other night, and started the turn of that game.
Believe it was Myles who helped off in 1H and then 2H Harris’s foot was stepped on or he tripped on an Ohio state guys foot and that allowed Thornton the wide open 3s
 
CJ Cox picking up deep in the back-court - love giving opponents a dose of their own medicine, and he has a little bit of that Walt Frazier pick-your-pocket ability - did it early last night.

Reading between the lines with Matt Painter, some of this might also be a silver lining from Jacobsen's unfortunate injury, combined with Caleb Furst back in the starting line-up. With no big rim protection, they've decided to really press up and stop the ball penetration even more, and Cox and Harris have started to come along and understand - plus, they have the quickness and Harris can get physical and is definitely more comfortable in his role. Furst's paint presence and activity/athleticism still makes that work. Then, depending upon what the opponent does, Smith gets a backside double opportunity or can roam in the passing lane - Purdue had 14 steals last night.

Also, the Boilers had just a ho-hum 44-point turnaround from the 2nd half Tuesday ( - 19) to the first half Friday (+25).

Want to see how this progresses and if sustained over the next several weeks, but it definitely raises the ceiling a little bit. I also want to see what they do again against the Kryptonite team with big, physical, athletic guards - Smith has a little more help, but it's still a work in progress, especially away from West Lafayette.

We shall see.

Wait who has the big, physical guards?
 
Cox & Harris are good on ball defenders. Both switch well and cover. Both make things miserable for the opponent. Proud of how both have stepped up on D.

Harris at times will lose contact with a shooter to double or to slide inside. That needs work. That's how Thornton got the last three off in H1 the other night, and started the turn of that game.
Looking ahead, I think that in a couple years after Braden and Fletch move on, Purdue could have a dominant defensive team with Cox, Harris, and Colvin applying pressure on the perimeter, Jacobsen protecting the rim, and Heide switching screens and providing weakside help.
 
Purdue up to 9th in NET matching kenpom ranking.

I noticed yesterday we were back in peoples faces in on ball defense. 2nd half of osu game we were backed off playing "scared to foul" defense that we were playing early in the year. It makes a hige difference for this team and also with the refs. When you play in your face physical D from the tip, it establishes the style of the game and for the most part the refs start using that as the baseline rather than passive I cant touch you defense as the baseline.

Keep at it!
 
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OSU loss stung, but wow you have to love that response from the team.

It's kind of wild that Purdue is now the small team pressuring the team with a huge size advantage and making their lives miserable.

It just shows how good CMP is IMO.

Also, that Furst alley oops was my favorite play of the game. Caleb got up and put that down with authority. That looked like those Mr Basketball and Freshman year dunks you see in his highlights. Love the emotion and that he's getting opportunity to give it his all his last year. He gets better every week IMO. Really, really happy for who seems to be such a great young man and Boilermaker.
He has been a huge add for D, boards and running the court. I hope his last year is his best year
 
Where's krazyinchicago?
Would be nice if he stayed away instead of the temper tantrums and bad takes we are used to? I will say this, the OSU game he was better, the emotional bench all the starters or pull TKR the rest of the game make my blood pressure raise, I was given good advice by a few on here in regards to him.
 
Well us shooting terrible from 3 and then hitting more/consecutive ones in a run they had saved them. Also those 4-5 “throw it up as the shot clock expires” that went in, didn’t help either.

Ohio state got Purdue back on track last year and we almost had the exact same score this year…hopefully it gets them back on track/keeps them on track this year too.
was just sayin, usually when you force a team into 18 TO's that's usually a W
 
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