Michigan’s Hutchinson
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At least he played and didn’t opt out. Give him a lot of credit for that.
To play devils advocate. You go to college to get the best job you can. David and George have the opportunity to play in the NFT and be drafted early. If I could have made guaranteed millions coming out of Purdue I would have done whatever it took to make that happen. I would have loved to see them on the field against Tennessee but I don’t think they owned that to Purdue or anything (not saying you said that either) and I don’t hold them sitting out against them.
To add to my last message, their stock was as high as ever. Playing wouldn’t have helped David or George. It sure didn’t help Michigans guy and he was voted best DE in the B1G.
He won’t drop much, if at all, but there will be comments about his “lack of production” in the CFP or “elite talent”
This whole thing of acting like David and George are for some reason not real Purdue guys because of not playing in the music city bowl is not right. Hmmmm let me think, risk my entire future in the nfl, or be music city bowl champion? I know which I would choose every single time. These guys are about to be paid and they don’t need to be chastised about missing a meaningless bowl game. Nor should that game be compared to a national title playoff game. I guarantee you they would have been in the lineup for a national title. Nowhere near the same comparison. People need to stop deriding young guys who made a decision based on their future.
If I had a son that was in their position, I would give him the advice is staying out. I believe that even their coach would probably give the same advice.
Purdue would be fine if they played or not. Obviously, Purdue won the game and everyone is happy. No reason we wouldn’t have quickly gotten over it if we lost.
Brohm has been classy about how he’s handled it in public. I think he’s aware that he needs the next Bell or GK to come to Purdue and something like this won’t be held against them.
I don't want to pick a fight or throw those guys under the bus. I understand the injury concern. But, I disagree.
Bell and Karlaftis might not have owed anything to Purdue or us fans, but I think they owed something to their teammates who worked all year to get to this game.
People say bowl games are meaningless, but everybody knows they're an important barometer of success. Every team starts the season with the goal of getting there. No team ever says, "Well we'll just play 12 games and call it a year."
I do empathize with Brohm's position on this one. Finish what you start. Same goes for anyone who missed the game for academic reasons.
Just my two cents.
Bell and Karlaftis might not have owed anything to Purdue or us fans, but I think they owed something to their teammates who worked all year to get to this game.
People say bowl games are meaningless, but everybody knows they're an important barometer of success. Every team starts the season with the goal of getting there. No team ever says, "Well we'll just play 12 games and call it a year."
I do empathize with Brohm's position on this one. Finish what you start. Same goes for anyone who missed the game for academic reasons.
Just my two cents.
The back corner fade TD to Sheffield was usually a play for Bell. It could have been Bell's busted foot instead of TJs
Look at Qb’s Lance and Love. Lance didn’t play on a bowl game his last year and Love was a terrible QB his last year. Yet they both were first round picks. Love left early for the NFL.
I don’t believe NFL success will follow either player, but they at least got that first huge contract. I’m not sure what NFL scouts look for, but in their case it sure wasn’t their on the field performance!
I don’t believe NFL success will follow either player, but they at least got that first huge contract. I’m not sure what NFL scouts look for, but in their case it sure wasn’t their on the field performance!
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The spelling may have been wrong but my point was spot on! However you decide to look for flaws and typos rather than the substance of the post! Didn’t you? Your first post of the year used to correct a typo! This board needs more posters like you!
that you don’t know what scouts look at? I agree with that
History will dictate actual game performance is not the first factor NFL scouts look for! Will kg be drafted before Hutchinson? Don’t know and really don’t care. Will Bell be drafted before the OSU receivers? Doubtful!
Don’t disagree with your game performance comment. That’s why I largely don’t mind that they skipped the game. Both of their futures rely on the combine. There was no benefit to their draft status if they played in the game
I watched the first half and the first series for both teams in the 2nd half, their other DE was held in check too.
if any of the "star" players opt out of their perspective games other than the final four, I have no problem w/ it.
I was listening to a national sports radio show this morning and they had a CFB analyst on who said a UGA coach told him that UGA say 3 or 4 players better than Hutchinson in the SEC. Interesting comment.
It's helpful to know who the hell you are talking about in order to get the point of your post. It's a fair clarification, not nit-picking a misspelling, Captain Defensive.
Look, I'm sure the team was disappointed. But if their teammates didn't understand why they sat out, they're probably not the best teammates either. Plus, it allows other players on the team an opportunity for playing time and prep for next season.
I have a bit more of an issue of academic letdowns. I don't know the situation that Milton Wright was in, so I'm not going to judge him. He may have had personal issues. And according to Brohm, he's been one of the hardest working players all season. So I'm going to cut him a break. Now if he isn't academically eligible for next year, that's something different.
Their teammates absolutely understand. They get it. It’s the old codgers yelling at clouds that don’t get it.
GK and DB have done so much for Purdue. It’s a really bad look to disparage them. They could have gone anywhere but chose to come build something at Purdue. A program coming off historically bad seasons. They took a huge risk, bet on themselves and on the program and its coach. Beside their play, they did as much for recruiting than the entire staff the last 4 years and handled themselves with tremendous class.
You’re right I don’t get it. Again money was so much greater in the NFL 5 years ago yet players didn’t opt out of bowl games then. Now rookie contracts are so much less and players opt out except for certain bowl games. So In these high profile bowl games these future pro players won’t get hurt? That’s what the agents tell their clients? Take the risk to play this game, but not that game. That makes absolutely no sense. In fact it’s nonsense.
"Old codgers yelling at the clouds..." Yikes, man, that hurts. I'm only 45!
I've yelled at stray animals and the television and snarky social media memes. But, never clouds. And, that's the God's honest truth!
You struggle to understand taking the risk to get hurt or not? If it was consistent you might get it.
How is it inconsistent. Game that means something - play. Game that isn’t a playoff game - don’t play. Not hard
Trey Lance likely to get the start today against the Houston Texans with Garoppolo having a right thumb injury (listed as doubtful). Should be interesting as SF is battling for one of the three NFC wild cards.
If these players are concerned about injury then don’t play in any bowl games. I wouldn’t like it, but that would make some sense.
Players are likely not going to opt out of a chance to play for a national championship. They just aren't...
I agree on the bigger point, but, you go to college as an athlete to compete and win games and be a part of something bigger than you...to bail on all of that for your own interests goes against all of those things (and, that is not a shot at either Purdue guy as I could not be more thankful for what both of those guys did during their time at and for Purdue).
It is only in recent years that this has happened, and, it is not what is best for the sport or the programs...I completely understand the personal thinking of the individuals, but, why did either play against IU then...why even play at all? What is the line in the sand of a game that matters? Or, only play "if it helps" them individually?
Like say, I understand the decision(s), but, I don't like them at all.
Karlaftis was a non-factor in a number of games from a statistical standpoint, despite being the best player on the field on that side of the ball for either team.
He can play...thus why he is thought of as highly as he is...the same is true of Hutchinson.
It is not as if Georgia went at him all night or did not double team him or have extra protections on his side, just as was the case with Karlaftis at Purdue all year.
If it was a playoff game, they would owe it to their teammates to be there. And I believe that they would have been.
Them "getting it" and being ok with it are different things.
Everybody gets it...and, I said it already elsewhere (and have said it multiple other times) that I agree in that those guys more than held up their end of the bargain in coming to Purdue and doing what they did at/for Purdue and the program...but, and I am not being critical, bailing on your team and program just is not a good look...they don't care, and, don't need to...and I don't know who else does...but, it is the truth of the matter.
Those guys did what was best for them...and that is fine (as if my opinion of that even matters)...but, to think Tennessee did not have guys that might be in a similar position, or, any of other multiple schools in bowl games (i.e., Robinson at Kentucky)?
It was just disappointing...as a fan, and, for the team...but, it is not as if it is something unique to Purdue...and, to your (and my) point, REALLY hard to be critical of either guy in that both passed up on the chance to go somewhere else and both came to Purdue...a risky move...and, then delivered in every way possible.
I was disappointed that they did not play, but, could not be more thankful for what both did for Purdue.
Whoa.. hold the phone.
I get both sides of this issue, and I'm not passionate about either. Who the h*ll is posting "David and George are for some reason not real Purdue guys"??
Where is this?
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