WRONG! Javale McGee big and slow?! WRONG
GSW used lineups where Draymond played the 5...so you're...WRONG
Tristan Thompson and Kevin Love big and slow? WRONG
Matt Haarms
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WRONG! Javale McGee big and slow?! WRONG
GSW used lineups where Draymond played the 5...so you're...WRONG
Tristan Thompson and Kevin Love big and slow? WRONG
No, the Warriors started Pachulia at the 5. He's big and slow. Thompson isn't slow. But he's traditional 5. He's never made a 3 in his whole career! Why are you getting so upset about this? Boys
and watch out for his feet...took a lot of the drama from the WCF in some's opinions.
Not upset at all. But you saying that, because something has survived for 100 years means that no evolution is necessary is 1) just completely ridiculous, and 2) false, because we already have proof that the game has evolved
There was a theory that new rules made the NFL a passing league wasn't there? But I've seen every team who drafts a running back early starts to win big time. Jaguars even. All the championship teams in basketball have a traditional 5. Lithuania had a big slow 5 from Notre Dame. Everything else is just theory from overthinkers.
Jaguars win one game and you extrapolate it like that? LOL
Big men, OF COURSE, are important, but your inability to acknowledge that the game has changed is just a sign of complete ignorance.
the packers are going to the Super bowl. We beat Seattle. one game. book it ! the odds makers already have.
Mmm I doubt it. They don't have a very good running game. That's why they got killed 44-21 by Atlanta and their two good running backs in last year's playoffs.
How high were Atlanta's running backs drafted? I hope that you aren't arguing that NFL running backs are more important than NFL quarterbacks.
Current players aside, the best reason for Painter to emphasize traditional centers is that so few coaches to so anymore. All one has to do is look at the 247 composite rankings and see how few players are listed as centers to see that there isn't much demand for the position. Dowuana, for example, is ranked 151st in the national composite rankings but eighth among centers. Painter is positioned to compete very well for these players due to his success with big men in the past. He also is positioned well for traditional fours, but if he can continue to exploit his track record when recruiting centers, I think it makes sense to do so.
One was drafted early in the 3rd round and one was drafted early in the 4th round. That's kinda high. But again there's 2 of them. The first 3 teams to draft a running back this year all won this week and the 5 teams that drafted a running back in the 1st round over the last 3 years, 4 won and 1 lost a close game on the road this week. Running backs are hugely important. Traditional 5s are hugely important. That's why all the champs start them. It's pretty simple boys.
I've written quite a few posts on this very subject Matt is a contrarian
Both positions are devalued, which creates opportunity to find value. I agree with that argument. Atlanta's running backs being drafted in the third and fourth rounds being considered high is a great example of that, because it is hard to find a qb after the first 10 picks and top offensive tackles and defensive ends go very high, typically, as well. On the other hand, quality interior offensive linemen, tight ends, and running backs can often be found in the middle rounds.
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No chance. The Vikings are playing this at home! The only way Aaron gets in is if Olivia Munn takes him back and gives him a ticket. I am hoping she takes me!
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Running backs were devalued for a year or two ya. But this year there were 2 in the first 10 picks because after Dallas won the NFC everybody realized that overthinker theory was stupid. I think it was Xavier that made it really far last year with a really big and slow 5 until they lost to Gonzaga that had a bunch of really big and slow 5s.
Either that or there were a couple of exceptional talents this year. There certainly wasn't a run on the position like we often see in other positions.
In the past 5 seasons there have been 5 running backs selected in the first round, compared to 12 quarterbacks (typically in the top 2), 21 wide receivers, and 23 tackles. Two highly drafted running backs may be an indication that the devaluation of the position has gone too far, but in this era of running backs by committee, I see little indication that running backs will starting becoming heavily drafted in the first two rounds.
Ok already, m y comment was made sort of tongue in cheek to the previous post about making predictions based on one game.
Although in the Packer's case, it's obvious - Super bowl !
As for Atlanta, we waived the CB Gunter this week that you flew by for all your yards and scores. and our top two draft picks were dbs.
Do not put the Packers in Haarms Way !
Although in the Packer's case, it's obvious - Super bowl !
As for Atlanta, we waived the CB Gunter this week that you flew by for all your yards and scores. and our top two draft picks were dbs.
Do not put the Packers in Haarms Way !
You can't count out Seattle in this day and age.....they have a defense that can be dominating up-front and in the secondary (and the LB's are no slouches), and they have a QB who is the best escape artist I have seen since Fran Tarkenton (with a better ability to rush).....now injuries can always make a difference (like with Earl Thomas last year).
GB's "D" looked better than I expected (although Seattle has some big-time problems on the offensive line), but how long can they expect A Rodgers to bail them out time and again.....they'll be in it for sure, though.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same four in the divisional round this year, maybe with different home sites.....parity is here to stay for a while, IMO.
"In one memorable practice last season, Painter instructed Haarms to defend shooting guard Dakota Mathias. Imagine the flip side of the usual daily challenge of facing those punishing big men. Haarms now had to chase an elite shooter around the perimeter as Mathias bounced off of screens."
http://www.jconline.com/story/sport...ager-make-his-presence-known-again/673763001/
Purdue basketball's Matt Haarms eager to make his presence known again
WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. — Matt Haarms' basketball carried him from his birthplace in the Netherlands to Spain and eventually to the United States.
West Lafayette has been home since last January, when the 7-3 Haarms arrived from Sunrise Christian Academy in Bel Aire, Kansas.
Yet not until two weeks ago, at Purdue's first practice following a post-World University Games break, did Haarms begin to really settle in. For the first time since his arrival, no redshirt restrictions or citizenship technicalities stand between Haarms and playing in a real basketball game.
"I finally felt I was a real part of everything," Haarms said. "I was finally getting ready for something that wasn't extremely far away. I'm super excited."
Haarms practiced throughout the second semester of last season. Matt Painter, however, made it clear almost no circumstances existed that would have led him to put Haarms in a game and burn his redshirt.
The rest of the Boilermakers practiced beyond the standard NCAA allowances this summer in preparation for their stint as Team USA. Yet since Haarms was not a U.S. citizen, he could not play in the games or utilize the extra workouts. He rooted his teammates on from the bench in Taipei.
PURDUE BASKETBALL: Boilermakers seek defensive improvement as summer closes
PURDUE BASKETBALL: 7-2 center Matt Haarms commits to Boilermakers
Throughout the past nine months, Haarms has grown physically and sharpened his skills. When Purdue officially opens practice on Sept. 29, he'll be fighting for minutes along with the rest of the roster.
"He needs to get out there and play," Painter said earlier this summer.
Dropped into West Lafayette prior to the second semester, Haarms spent practices alternating between physical punishment from either 7-2, 290 Isaac Haas or 6-9, 250 Caleb "Biggie" Swanigan.
Such a task, with no immediate reward of playing time, could lead to discouragement. Painter said he and his staff explained to Haarms those weren't the kind of opponents he would typically see in games.
As he toughened against the physical challenge, Haarms hardened mentally as well.
"I used to be kind of scared of the contact and now it's like hey, I've had Isaac Haas. I've had Caleb Swanigan,' " Haarms said. "Why should I be scared of you?"
While Haas stands like a redwood in the paint, Haarms still resembles a beanstalk. He's working on it, though. Working with associate director of strength and conditioning Josh Bonhotal, Haarms has added about 25 pounds since his arrival. He's at 246 "on my way to 250," he said.
"He used to not be able to move us," Haas said. "Now he can move us a little bit and you can actually feel him. It's a big difference from before. I look forward to seeing how he handles the bigger guys in our conference."
Most exciting to Haarms is that, while his body has changed, his ability to run the floor and move have not. Haarms' skill set more naturally fits at power forward, and if he can prove he can defend 4s in the Big Ten Conference, he may be able to earn minutes there.
In one memorable practice last season, Painter instructed Haarms to defend shooting guard Dakota Mathias. Imagine the flip side of the usual daily challenge of facing those punishing big men. Haarms now had to chase an elite shooter around the perimeter as Mathias bounced off of screens.
"I thought I was going to be some lumbering monster in the first couple of months of adjusting," Haarms said. "But it's coming on very naturally. Going from 220-245, I can still move, I can still jump. I can still run.
"Now when I hit Isaac it's still 45 pounds of difference — like, oh, there's a lot coming there. But it's not 70 anymore. There's progress there."
Haarms last played a non-intrasquad game last July, in his final AAU competition. Almost 16 months will have passed since that game when Purdue plays its closed scrimmage against West Virginia in late October.
Haarms' eagerness to take the floor is palpable. Yet simply being able to play doesn't mean he will. While Jacquil Taylor, Grady Eifert and others proved themselves in summer competition, Haarms could only watch.
His opportunity has arrived, but the hard work isn't over.
"I haven't been able to show anything in games," Haarms said. "I need to work harder than those guys and show I can contribute to this team and be out there. I need to step up and get out there."
http://www.jconline.com/story/sport...ager-make-his-presence-known-again/673763001/
Purdue basketball's Matt Haarms eager to make his presence known again
WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. — Matt Haarms' basketball carried him from his birthplace in the Netherlands to Spain and eventually to the United States.
West Lafayette has been home since last January, when the 7-3 Haarms arrived from Sunrise Christian Academy in Bel Aire, Kansas.
Yet not until two weeks ago, at Purdue's first practice following a post-World University Games break, did Haarms begin to really settle in. For the first time since his arrival, no redshirt restrictions or citizenship technicalities stand between Haarms and playing in a real basketball game.
"I finally felt I was a real part of everything," Haarms said. "I was finally getting ready for something that wasn't extremely far away. I'm super excited."
Haarms practiced throughout the second semester of last season. Matt Painter, however, made it clear almost no circumstances existed that would have led him to put Haarms in a game and burn his redshirt.
The rest of the Boilermakers practiced beyond the standard NCAA allowances this summer in preparation for their stint as Team USA. Yet since Haarms was not a U.S. citizen, he could not play in the games or utilize the extra workouts. He rooted his teammates on from the bench in Taipei.
PURDUE BASKETBALL: Boilermakers seek defensive improvement as summer closes
PURDUE BASKETBALL: 7-2 center Matt Haarms commits to Boilermakers
Throughout the past nine months, Haarms has grown physically and sharpened his skills. When Purdue officially opens practice on Sept. 29, he'll be fighting for minutes along with the rest of the roster.
"He needs to get out there and play," Painter said earlier this summer.
Dropped into West Lafayette prior to the second semester, Haarms spent practices alternating between physical punishment from either 7-2, 290 Isaac Haas or 6-9, 250 Caleb "Biggie" Swanigan.
Such a task, with no immediate reward of playing time, could lead to discouragement. Painter said he and his staff explained to Haarms those weren't the kind of opponents he would typically see in games.
As he toughened against the physical challenge, Haarms hardened mentally as well.
"I used to be kind of scared of the contact and now it's like hey, I've had Isaac Haas. I've had Caleb Swanigan,' " Haarms said. "Why should I be scared of you?"
While Haas stands like a redwood in the paint, Haarms still resembles a beanstalk. He's working on it, though. Working with associate director of strength and conditioning Josh Bonhotal, Haarms has added about 25 pounds since his arrival. He's at 246 "on my way to 250," he said.
"He used to not be able to move us," Haas said. "Now he can move us a little bit and you can actually feel him. It's a big difference from before. I look forward to seeing how he handles the bigger guys in our conference."
Most exciting to Haarms is that, while his body has changed, his ability to run the floor and move have not. Haarms' skill set more naturally fits at power forward, and if he can prove he can defend 4s in the Big Ten Conference, he may be able to earn minutes there.
In one memorable practice last season, Painter instructed Haarms to defend shooting guard Dakota Mathias. Imagine the flip side of the usual daily challenge of facing those punishing big men. Haarms now had to chase an elite shooter around the perimeter as Mathias bounced off of screens.
"I thought I was going to be some lumbering monster in the first couple of months of adjusting," Haarms said. "But it's coming on very naturally. Going from 220-245, I can still move, I can still jump. I can still run.
"Now when I hit Isaac it's still 45 pounds of difference — like, oh, there's a lot coming there. But it's not 70 anymore. There's progress there."
Haarms last played a non-intrasquad game last July, in his final AAU competition. Almost 16 months will have passed since that game when Purdue plays its closed scrimmage against West Virginia in late October.
Haarms' eagerness to take the floor is palpable. Yet simply being able to play doesn't mean he will. While Jacquil Taylor, Grady Eifert and others proved themselves in summer competition, Haarms could only watch.
His opportunity has arrived, but the hard work isn't over.
"I haven't been able to show anything in games," Haarms said. "I need to work harder than those guys and show I can contribute to this team and be out there. I need to step up and get out there."
Ewing won't see many minutes!!!???? HOW DARE YOU! I've been personally assured by the resident circle jerkers that he's extremely talented and ready to play a major role!
I never said "ZERO" but it's all about having the luxury of an abundancy of front court talent. Unlike some teams in Indiana, we have some very talented BIG men. We've got Haas and Taylor. We've got Haarms and Ewing. and then throw in we've got V Edwards and Wheeler who will both be used at the 4 slot. that's a lot of players, and a lot of talent in our front court. Haas and Edwards will definitely receive their share of minutes. but we've got 5 other talented players fighting for those leftover minutes, it's sort of like throwing bacon in front of a bunch of boy scout adult leaders. I'm confident they all will be fighting hard for their piece of the pie.
You should know better than to attempt at pulling my chain.
And Haarms is probably the biggest 7'3 reason why Painter wanted Ed over Castleton. If Haarms is as good as people think he is, we had no need for another really tall perimeter player. What we needed was a monster of the midway to play along side haarms and Williams and Wheeler. Mr. Ed will not be in Haarms way!
Ah, but we already know that Haarms is no good. If he was, he would have played more minutes than the walk-ons at the WIUG.
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