things like this happen, just today psu landed a 4 star LB they just offered 8 days ago.
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I've seen it in playing fantasy baseball in keeper leagues. When you have a league of 16 teams, and teams are allowed to keep 9 players and a farm team of 4 players, While hope may spring eternal at the annual draft (recruitment of players), it becomes very hard for that team that is in last place to be ever be able to succeed. The guy in first place isn't going to trade Trout for any package of players you offer. So if take on somebody's former last place team, and dedicate all your efforts to succeeding, the likelihood is you may improve to 14th place if you are lucky.
OSU AND mich are that perennial first place team. Even if Purdue can draft a couple of elite players, the other teams are already stocked. Like fantasy baseball, the odds are stacked against Purdue, and it will take time even to go from the bottom to mediocrity. Unfortunately neither the fans or recruits want to be part of another 4-5 year rebuilding process. To succeed long term, Purdue and Brohm need to find a way to leap frog the typical path to succession and find some immediate success. Otherwise, they will continue to find themselves at the bottom looking up.
But don't worry boys, we signed ANOTHER WR!! With still more being targeted? I get it.. he is an offensive minded coach... but this feels like giving up. Filling up spots with low end talent and WRs and having nothing to show on the defensive line really hurts. Losing two Dline commits out of the blue near signing day is enough to drive the fans nuts! Missing out on the big names when you have nothing but playing time to offer is inexcusable. The day we lost Robinson we should have gone all in on Mcdougle promising day one starter if that's what it takes. And go all in on Harris. The world should have absolutely stopped and the only thing that mattered should be Harris, Mcdougle, and Mackey (because his status still seems up in the air). To all of you people that wanted Parker gone, careful what you wish for. CJB just went up against Fleck in a recruiting battle over a Purdue commit and lost. This process might take a year or 2 longer than I had hoped. I was very dissapointed in the DC hire, and so far we have nothing to show for it.
If PSU can do it, Brohm needs to find a way to also do it. Winning 4 games this year isn't going to be a better selling point than having a new coach this year. If Brohm only produces 4 wins , he's likely to receive the same response he received this year from guys like a Yeast and Harris.
Fantasy sports?
There is no shortcutting a rebuild in college football. It will take time to repair the roster. Year 3 is when we should be looking for results. Lose big, lose little, win little (bowl eligibility), win big.
Should have been, but werent. He left the roster in a worse place than he found it.
exactly, because if you would ever see instant success, guess what, the big boys will offer the perceived good asst's and they'll leave similar to what happened w/ Tiller. So I'm willing to give it a few years too. The first year w/ the team being more dynamic should get us noticed for next year's class. Look at Rutgers, their 2nd year class is in the mid 30's and they had a horrid year.
Unrealistic for sure. All here need to understand that over the past few years we have been at best one of the worst D1 programs in the country. You don't win "overnight" when your where we are. I'll take 4 wins with our schedule right now as long as we're competitive in our loses and exciting to watch. Rome wasn't built in a day and we are basically starting over.
And therein lies the problem and very few diehard Purdue fans see or believe my point. The diehard Purdue fan. accepts the fact the Boilers have been bad and are willing to accept a 4 win season as making progress.
But to the casual fan, a 4 win season still represents a loser. The casual fan is still not going to come to the games to watch a loser. And what is not being said is most high school recruits are casual fans. They know what Purdue's record was and that Hazell was fired and Brohm was hired and Purdue is a great ag and engineering school. And they have a good but under achieving basketball team that can't win on the road or a tournament game. The majority of high school players are casual fans of Purdue, not diehard fans like the ones who post here. To win these recruits over, you either bring girls, sex, money or recruit them legally. And the best way to do that is by winning games.
My point is in order to improve our recruiting, we need to win 6+ games. And to win 6+ games, we need to improve our recruiting. Winning 4 games would be an improvement, but I don't see it improving our recruiting much more than this year's class. We need to find a way to out recruit IU , Illinois and minn. we need to find a way to attract the casual fan, because the diehard fan will always be optimistic, give excuses for losing, and say we need more to develop and to give it another 3-4. Years. We need to find a way to fill up the stadium, and going 4-8 isn't going to do it.
In order to improve recruiting you need to sell progress. Recruits are smarter than the casual fan and get where Purdue was
I think you have the right mentality. Purdue football has been terrible for a long time. It will take a few years to rebuild. Fans don't want to hear that but its reality. Winning 4 games next season is a start. Gradually winning more after that and gradually improving recruiting is the key.
I understand what you all are saying. But you are mostly all die hard fans. I want Purdue to succeed. But I'm looking around and I see despite our efforts, we're still in last place. And our recruiting class is still the worst in the BIG 10. I had hoped Brohm could have made us leapfrog several schools, but they also had better recruiting classes. Many people have said wait until next year, but with all the drops, Brohm has recruited a majority of this class. This is now Brohm's first class. We all said Brohm is better than Fleck. I want to see it.
We have to play before the comparison between Brohm and Fleck can be made. This die hard is willing to give it a couple of seasons to find out the answer. The last four years buried us. Swung and missed badly with DH2. Give CJB time to dig us out. This is going to be done by building depth with recruiting and playing a style of football that Boiler fans can be both pleased with and proud of. Again, you're going to have to give it time.
I like the picture of Boiler beer cans, I have a 6 pack o those if you are interested.
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