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Why would IU be frustrated over this that just means we're starting out over ranked and they're not. So now at the end of the season they can laugh at us for being ranked 10th and not doing anything. I rather not be ranked expecially 10th
If you're a Purdue fan, you're a horrible fan. I'm trying to understand what value this post adds. I think you should sit out the next few posts, "expecially" if it concerns IU.
I hate preseason rankings...
Unless Purdue is high in them!
Finishing 2 in big ten, with chance at elite 8 would be great
Unless Purdue is high in them!
Finishing 2 in big ten, with chance at elite 8 would be great
Ha. Snu is gonna have a rough remainder of the offseason. We should all send a Papa Johns to his mother's basement just to make sure he is still eating.
"Coughtoolcough"
I no longer believe you are a Purdue fan. Your posts are very pro-IU trollish.
Not only a troll, but his use of the English language suggests he is about 10 years old.
10 years old or a student/graduate of the IU School of Urinalism.
Just saying top ten are you serious who in the world would put us in the top 10 after losing in the first round. And after losing their best player to the draft.
I understand what you're saying, but I'm in favor of anything and everything that toots our horn in front of recruits. Having our name on the cover of a national magazine does that. Now, obviously we can't crap the bed in the first round again or we will never grow our prestige, but for now I will take ALL the good publicity we can get in any form possible. We really need to win some recruiting battles with this class.
Preseason top 10 should help recruiting, right? Or is it a 2-edged sword because prospects will perceive they won't get pt?
All our bigs but Taylor will be gone in 2 years, max. No recruit that we're after should be deterred by our roster in my opinion.
Well, you are number TEN in the country. You should be thrilled. Purdue is a sure S16 team and should be in the E8. Wish I was a Boiler fan, as it looks like a FF is a solid chance.
They're already competitive...now they need to win some big (and by big I mean important) games. Don't agree with the must be sweet sixteen but another first round exit combined with a bad recruiting class would be a hot seat recipe.
Agree at minimum sweet 16 or more fans will start growing tired. Too many of our players operated best in the post last year. We should be a much more balanced team that's better equipped to handle adversity in the tournament than last year's team.
Um, wait a minute... if we are the number 10 team, how does that say we should be in the Elite 8? I think your math is off just a bit.
Being preseason top 10 does beat not being in the top ten, but many people foolishly believe the best team always wins in the NCAAT. Every year we see something different, but that chorus still chirps.
Nervous? OK, could be in the elite 8, but certainly S16. This is Purdue's year! I only hope that IU can compete with you .Um, wait a minute... if we are the number 10 team, how does that say we should be in the Elite 8? I think your math is off just a bit.
Being preseason top 10 does beat not being in the top ten, but many people foolishly believe the best team always wins in the NCAAT. Every year we see something different, but that chorus still chirps.
Last year's team and this year's team are... surprisingly... very different teams. The ranking is based on what the poll makers are seeing in this year's team, not last year's. Losing our best player? Probably not. In fact, we might have added our best player to the team this year in Carson Edwards. I always hesitate in putting freshmen into that position, but I think by the end of this next season, CE is going to be the legitimate "best player" on this team, if it is not Biggie.
We finished ranked fairly well last year, regardless of losing in the first round. Where you are going down the wrong logic branch is believing the best team always wins in the NCAAT. Just to remove the black & gold influence, let's look at MSU. They lost in the first round, right? So, using your logic, they are no better than the 33rd best team in the country. How could the coaches poll rank them finishing at #7? There are plenty of examples like this.
Your dog won't hunt, son.
You bet I'm nervous! I watched the Purdue team play in Spain, and wonder just how good are they? The competition was weak, but if you watch just the individuals and how they play, you can learn somethings that are not as directly related to the talent of the opposition. Over all they looked very good, so I have high hopes.
As for IU, you guys will be just fine. Your turn to have that nasty nagging doubt about having a good PG, but all things come around. My nonsense, way-too-early prediction puts IU at 3rd or 4th place in the BIG. I like that Purdue and IU are getting back to the position of strong rivals. Of course that means we will be trading victories and losses back and forth.
I think you're an idiot. You'll take whatever somebody says, run home and start a thread making fun of delusional Purdue fans. Nice try.
Carsen our best player this year? I think you've had one too many kool aids.Last year's team and this year's team are... surprisingly... very different teams. The ranking is based on what the poll makers are seeing in this year's team, not last year's. Losing our best player? Probably not. In fact, we might have added our best player to the team this year in Carson Edwards. I always hesitate in putting freshmen into that position, but I think by the end of this next season, CE is going to be the legitimate "best player" on this team, if it is not Biggie.
We finished ranked fairly well last year, regardless of losing in the first round. Where you are going down the wrong logic branch is believing the best team always wins in the NCAAT. Just to remove the black & gold influence, let's look at MSU. They lost in the first round, right? So, using your logic, they are no better than the 33rd best team in the country. How could the coaches poll rank them finishing at #7? There are plenty of examples like this.
Your dog won't hunt, son.
Last year's team and this year's team are... surprisingly... very different teams. The ranking is based on what the poll makers are seeing in this year's team, not last year's. Losing our best player? Probably not. In fact, we might have added our best player to the team this year in Carson Edwards. I always hesitate in putting freshmen into that position, but I think by the end of this next season, CE is going to be the legitimate "best player" on this team, if it is not Biggie.
We finished ranked fairly well last year, regardless of losing in the first round. Where you are going down the wrong logic branch is believing the best team always wins in the NCAAT. Just to remove the black & gold influence, let's look at MSU. They lost in the first round, right? So, using your logic, they are no better than the 33rd best team in the country. How could the coaches poll rank them finishing at #7? There are plenty of examples like this.
Your dog won't hunt, son.
so head to head results mean less than subjective perception, rankings, etc?
hypothetically if there was a 7 game series and they lost game 1, msu's betting odds would immediately change for game 2 because of the head to head results of game 1.
or maybe more of a question is what is defined as 'best' in college basketball each year.
would most fans/players/coaches choose to be the best (or go further) in the final ncaa tournament, or would they rather be the best (or be higher) in the final coaches poll?
purdue/a.d. have previously placed a premium on post season play since a primary goal is directors cup standings, and those standings are scored on such play (excluding fbs). finishing in round 2 is double the points than round 1 for basketball.
Biker... come at me again. Give it another shot. Not trying to be contentious, just that I am not sure I understand your point.
Remember, I was responding to another post, so my comments taken by themselves are not meaningful without the context. I too place a premium on post season play. I was attempting to show that how a team did last year in the NCAA's has only minor affect on the rankings last year and this year.
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So that is the sweet cherry flavor I get every time I watch those Spain games, eh?
I think you are taking me too literally. It was stated in a speculative manner, so lighten up a bit. I was attempting to confront the idea that our "best player" left the team at the end of last year. We always have seniors graduating, and we always think they are irreplaceable... and yet the team finds a way.
Nah you're good,Biker... come at me again. Give it another shot. Not trying to be contentious, just that I am not sure I understand your point.
Remember, I was responding to another post, so my comments taken by themselves are not meaningful without the context. I too place a premium on post season play. I was attempting to show that how a team did last year in the NCAA's has only minor affect on the rankings last year and this year.
Was reading too much into I think
Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan State, Arizona, etc. don't ever seem to scare recruits away because of a preseason ranking, do they?
I don't see why Purdue wouldn't be ranked in the top 10, the team has the players who can play with any college team, so what if they don't finish in the top ten, instead of thinking what bad things will happen lets have a great season and watch Purdue win a ton of games this year.
Remember, this is a magazine's preseason top 10. It probably just reflects the views of Sporting News's editorial staff.
The AP and coaches polls (come out in October, I think) will give a better sense of what people around the country think of Purdue. And, yeah, it's just a preseason ranking. Fun and all, but there's a lot of basketball to be played between now and March.
The AP and coaches polls (come out in October, I think) will give a better sense of what people around the country think of Purdue. And, yeah, it's just a preseason ranking. Fun and all, but there's a lot of basketball to be played between now and March.
So that is the sweet cherry flavor I get every time I watch those Spain games, eh?
I think you are taking me too literally. It was stated in a speculative manner, so lighten up a bit. I was attempting to confront the idea that our "best player" left the team at the end of last year. We always have seniors graduating, and we always think they are irreplaceable... and yet the team finds a way.
Sometimes they find a way and get better, sometimes they are the same and sometimes they get worse. I'm not sold that we get better after losing AJH. I didn't see the Spain games so I'm not as optimistic on CE until I see him perform against NCAA high major competition. Hopefully we earn a top 10 ranking all year behind him and Biggie.
Curious. Anyone know what TSN's Top 10 were last year? Were they any good at predicting a year ago?
I think it was:
Kansas
Maryland
North Carolina
Kentucky
Duke
Virginia
Iowa State
Arizona
Wichita State
Gonzaga
Looks like more misses than hits.
Villanova? 12
Don't think Purdue was in their top 25.
Dry's is from a month earlier I think......similar teams......different orders.
NC State and Oklahoma v. Gonzaga and Wichita State.
I did a quick glance on the IU free board... there is not one single thread devoted to being all bent out of shape about Purdue being in the top 10. If they're being driven crazy by this as you supposed, they're sure hiding it well...
If you read the replies to the original tweet, IU fans were the first to point it out. That said, I don't really care. I just thought it was funny that they were complaining on twitter and it's fun to poke your rival, especially now while not much is happening in the college sports world.
actually the IU board means nothing to 99.9 % of Purdue fans, who cares what they think, feel, like , or are complaining about, you might even get a virus from going on their board that there is no cure for
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