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I think he is a great representative for some of the trolls who obsess here over Purdue. He's their man, no question.It is a great line from Seinfeld. I think the same thing after I watched Tom Crean make a scene at the UM game a few years back. ...and after I read what he said the OSU guard about him voting in the all-BIG contest. It was enough to know Crean was a clown. Regardless of his success this year, I still think he is a creepy clown. Keep him if you like, but I think Crean is a poor representative of IU.
Dude. IU got Iowa twice in the midst of a 1-4 slide to end the year. That on top of an unbalanced schedule got you the title. The exact thing that needed to happen to save Creans job happened at the exact perfect time. He gets the trailer park off his back and probably gets an extension. But you have to ask yourself. Why isn't the B1G outright champion who went 15-3, being considered a 1 seed? You're not even in the consideration. I'll give you a hint. You're resume is crap for a B1G champ.
IU will last the rest of the year on how hot they shoot. We shall see how well they do that outside of assembly hall. But as of now. In the RPI, you know the metric people talk about in March, Purdue sits 3 spots higher then IU after playing a tougher schedule.
Plus we all love Crean anyway. We wish he was lifetime coach.
Oh, he's not my man.
I would fire Crean if I were IU's AD, if he doesn't make a deep run in this year's NCAA's. Won't happen, but that's exactly what I would do. Just isn't going to win consistently.
But on the other hand, you guys seem really happy with Matt Painter though, so...um...good for you I guess?
Have a good night guys and good luck to both teams in the B1G and NCAA tourneys!
Believe me, man, I wish the same for you with Matt Painter! Lifetime contract for that dude is DESERVED!
Well, Iowa is still in their slide.
Maybe you guys can finally beat them this time (just don't go up 18 on 'em......that's when they have you right where they want you!)
You mean the guy who would fire Crean while you are putting clothes on your Painter love doll?
Boiler up!
Have a good night dude, this has been a lot of fun!
Lol..well let me get this straight you want him fired....but have not said 1 negative about him. Great recruiter, B1G winner 2 of 4 years, gets players to the NBA, no weird.. all of which you have told us. So why do you want him fired like you claim? Come on Crean get off a Purdue board..told you he was weird!
To even attempt to put Two Tone McClapperson in the same paragraph as Knight, Keady, Pitino, or Izzo is absolute blasphemy. When McSpaz wins anything close to those four will be the day the sun rises in the west. Easiest schedule in the Big for years, super soft pre-season schedule, the loss of Blackmon (and if you don't think Blackmon would have played, think again), a Maryland team that tanked the majority of the last half of conference play, and upsets of the other contenders and you have how IU won. And yes, I know they squeaked out one against Purdue....Yogi and Crean damn near giving it away at the end. IU will now have to face teams away from Ass Hall....and they'll lose very early. Depending on the draw, my guess is they will not make the Sweet 16. And all those in Trailer City will be wishing McSpaz were gone. Guess what.....your worthless AD...the same one who extended Wilson's contract after never having a winning season will give Two Tone a big contract and an extension. And IU will be stuck with this hypocrite for way too many seasons to come. And the rest of the league will be dancing in the streets.
Oh, I'm not Crean but that was funny! I'm considered a very hard-line anti-Crean guy over at Peegs so defending him is VERY difficult.
So, if an MSU fan or a UK fan or a KU fan, etc tells me they're excited Crean is going to be IU's coach for quite awhile, you wouldn't hear a single peep out of me. For reasons that are too obvious to explain.
But when a Purdue fan does the same? BWAAAHAHAHAHA!!! That is really hilarious stuff!
But why would you defend on a rival board and not your own? You really make no-sense! We could care less what that board thinks.. but you care about ours? That my friend is...weird! Good luck weirdo!
You know, I wasn't necessarily thinking of you when I used the phrase "trolls who obsess here over Purdue", but if you claim it, I guess it fits.
When I think about coach Crean speaking to recruits I imagine it going something like this..
Are you sure his assi
Lots of different ways to look at it....perhaps instead of we Purdue and IU fans looking at it subjectively we could let the other coaches judge...ooops 3 COY versus 1.... Guess that might not work for you either...well darn.
The slapping the floor and squatting on the sideline cracks me up. And stay the hell off the floor. Dude is a jackass
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I don't know about people on this board but I like Painter and glad we have him. It is harder to recruit here than the blue bloods. Purdue as far as I remember doesn't haul in top 20 classes on a consistent basis. Yet as far as CMP is concerned he has five years of 24+ wins in 11 years.That's 5 out of the13 total in 118 years of Purdue hoops. Also has a B1G title and couple sweet 16s. I would like more like some of you but it could be worse.Crean has done well as he has more "talent" on roster but Painter has done good as well. Painter represent Purdue extremely well and I like his straight forward style.
Heller is right on target here.
Regardless of his success, I dislike Crean’s approach to coaching and recruiting. His relationships with his peers is a shambles, and he is an embarrassment to IU waiting to happen. He is thoroughly disliked by many high school programs in Indiana. This is my personal perspective on the man, and I respect your differing opinion, which seems based solely on his win/loss record. Good luck with that.
The Italians didn’t like Mussolini’s politics and methods, but they thought he was okay because he made the trains run on time. I am not equating Crean to Mussolini in any way. Don't misread what I am saying here. This is just an example how viewing a leader through a narrow criteria can mislead a population. People can willfully put blinders on and erroneously judge people by a single dimension. Crean's success this year has put blinders on many of you IU fans.
That is why you will have trouble convincing any of us over here that Crean is better than Painter, who is well known as a streight up guy, honest with his peers and his kids.
Math, having coached in Indiana for a long time, I know several AD's and coaches and to a man they all like the PU, Butler, ND staffs better. They say Painter and the others are easier to deal with, they all question Crean's intent and in many cases his honesty. There's a reason Crean no longer is able to pull kids from in state, and that is because of how he runs the program and how, according to the HS coaches I know how Crean looks down his nose at those below him. Most intelligent IU fans and friends dislike Tom Crean immensely, don't trust him, and wish he were gone. To me, that is a house of cards built on a very weak foundation.Heller is right on target here.
Regardless of his success, I dislike Crean’s approach to coaching and recruiting. His relationships with his peers is a shambles, and he is an embarrassment to IU waiting to happen. He is thoroughly disliked by many high school programs in Indiana. This is my personal perspective on the man, and I respect your differing opinion, which seems based solely on his win/loss record. Good luck with that.
The Italians didn’t like Mussolini’s politics and methods, but they thought he was okay because he made the trains run on time. I am not equating Crean to Mussolini in any way. Don't misread what I am saying here. This is just an example how viewing a leader through a narrow criteria can mislead a population. People can willfully put blinders on and erroneously judge people by a single dimension. Crean's success this year has put blinders on many of you IU fans.
That is why you will have trouble convincing any of us over here that Crean is better than Painter, who is well known as a streight up guy, honest with his peers and his kids.
And yet, here you are acting like little brother pestering your big brother about something has absolutely nothing to do with you. lol.
I think Crean's a dick. Make no mistake about that and I don't care how nice a guy Matt Painter is and how well-liked he is.
Crean has been getting better results than Painter since IU's rebuild was complete.
That is all I'm saying and until Purdue turns the tables, laughing at Crean while Painter keeps finishing behind him is silly. MSU fans, UK fans, KU fans, etc. have a reason to laugh. Purdue fans simply don't until Painter accomplishes something impressive or starts beating Crean in the standings.
This isn't rocket surgery.
He had 2 of the top 4 picks in the NBA & got a share 4 years ago. He couldn't make it out of the S16 with that same group. I'll give him credit for winning the games he did this year, but it was with the weakest schedule in the league. He also caught Iowa at the right time. Lets see what he does in the tourney this year. If he gets you to a FF, then Purdue fans will change their tune, but this year is the first time he beat CMP without Zeller in the lineup, & that was hanging on with a bad goal tend call in Bloomington. Think what you want, but right now, Purdue fans are not afraid of him running your program. If you got Brad Stevens or someone along that pedigree, we'd be worried.
Funny, you guys didn't think this last year. That was when Painter>Crean, right? I think your posture is only good for 2016. 2017 will be a difficult time for the IU faithful, and I bet we will see all those fire Crean sentiments all over Peegs.
Regardless of how well Crean (or his assistant coach) did this year, Crean is still a dick, and we can agree on that. Furthermore, I reserve the right to point and laugh at IU fans for supporting him, regardless of his won/loss record.
Plax....what are you going to say when Crean once again coaches IU out of a possible Sweet 16 appearance or do you believe that he's good enough to rise above his own ineptness as witnessed by his lack of a past? And the rumor floating around Marion/Grant County is Blackmon is leaving IU...Creaned or on his own.
What does guidance have to do with strong arming your idiot boss into funding your program? A man's got to do what a man's got to do sometimes. Crean would never have the balls. He coached his team into the ground until he was forced by injuries to play his good players. What an idiot.
PU fans always over look one thing, if it weren't for Eric Montross, Matt Painter would have been a Hoosier.
If it weren't for his ---- my uncle would be my aunt.
If it wasn't for his sense of commitment, John Wooden might have coached at Purdue.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure one can't cite something as a rumor if that person is the one who made it up! Which I can only suspect is what's happening here again. I mean, how many times have you gone on record predicting that James Blackmon wouldn't be at IU? Weren't you also fanning the transfer flames after last season as well? First, he'll never chose IU... second, once he decommited, he'll never chose IU again... third, he's transferring last year because him and his dad are angry at Crean... fourth, undisclosed reason for transferring this year... geez Louise.
You know Crean, for as much as he sucks (and I most certainly believe he sucks), has actually been to a Final Four game right?
So.....wouldn't that give you the hint that it might actually be possible for him to get there, being that he has already taken a team to that level of success?
Also, why in God's name would James Blackmon want to sit out 2 FULL SEASONS of basketball at his age? I mean, you're not telling me Blackmon is "going pro", are you?
If by "going pro" you mean Blackmon is going to play in Israel or Poland? Why would he do that? Why would Blackmon still be on the bench at all the games, cheering and supporting his teammates?
Bottom line : Painter gets more out of the talent he gets, than Happy does and runs a better program
Recruiting ? ? Really ? ? Send happy to another school and he will suck ! - He is just using up the credibility that Knight built.
Recruiting ? ? Really ? ? Send happy to another school and he will suck ! - He is just using up the credibility that Knight built.
Then Painter had better start getting better talent, because he's consistently finishing behind Crean in the standings.
Weird that is okay to the Purdue faithful. Almost scary.
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