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Last 2 assistant coaches?????

Jan 2, 2017
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I was wondering if anybody had some inside knowledge of who CJB will hire to fill the last 2 spots on his staff. It seems rather odd that with less than a month left till National Signing Day, he hasn't finalized his staff yet. Is he waiting on a coach from Bama or Clemson? I can't seem to put my finger on it.
 
Do you know what postions need to be filled and could there be a shuffle depending on who he hires?
 
I was wondering if anybody had some inside knowledge of who CJB will hire to fill the last 2 spots on his staff. It seems rather odd that with less than a month left till National Signing Day, he hasn't finalized his staff yet. Is he waiting on a coach from Bama or Clemson? I can't seem to put my finger on it.
Sometimes you will see a lot of movement after signing day.
 
I was wondering if anybody had some inside knowledge of who CJB will hire to fill the last 2 spots on his staff. It seems rather odd that with less than a month left till National Signing Day, he hasn't finalized his staff yet. Is he waiting on a coach from Bama or Clemson? I can't seem to put my finger on it.
Not inside knowledge, but Running back coach spot is likely Parker or Barclay. No idea on other assistant.

Fwiw not unusual or odd that his staff isn't complete. You will see positions filled across the country over the next 6 weeks.
 
Do you know what postions need to be filled and could there be a shuffle depending on who he hires?

Well here is who CJB brought from WKU and their roles at WKU...

Brian Brohm - Co-Off Coor/QBs
Nick Holt - Def Coor/LBs
Reggie Johnson - Def Ends
Tony Levine - Co-Off Coor/Spec Teams Coor/TEs
Dale Williams - Offensive Line

Here's is who CJB hired and their role at the previous school....

Anthony Poindexter - Secondary
JaMarcus Shephard - WRs

So it looks like one offense (RB coach) and one defense coach.
 
Well here is who CJB brought from WKU and their roles at WKU...

Brian Brohm - Co-Off Coor/QBs
Nick Holt - Def Coor/LBs
Reggie Johnson - Def Ends
Tony Levine - Co-Off Coor/Spec Teams Coor/TEs
Dale Williams - Offensive Line

Here's is who CJB hired and their role at the previous school....

Anthony Poindexter - Secondary
JaMarcus Shephard - WRs

So it looks like one offense (RB coach) and one defense coach.

I think Johnson will be DL coach with a grad assistant assigned to assist with the DL
 
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Wonder if Parker is complicating things, and Brohm is giving him time to find another job. If so, Barclay is RB coach. If not, maybe Parker is RB coach, or TE's and let Levine stick to 2 jobs.

We could take Barclay and Parker if we're willing to go 6 offense, 3 defense. There is no clear position open on defense anyway. As it is, they'd have to split up the Dline or DB's to fit in a 4th coach there. I could see rolling with 3, at least for 1 year since we can hire a 10th assistant coach next year
 
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I think Parker gets added as the 10th coach as soon as it is ok to do so. He is the recruiting coordinator and TE coach. Levine is the Off Cord and ST coach. Barclay is added for RB. Then you add a defense coach.
 
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it seems obvious to me that Brohm left the RB coaching job open for Parker. Hopefully Parker either accepts it or moves on. it's rather obvious, we don't need Parker as our recruiting coordinator as the talent I'm seeing targeted, recruited and signed is significantly better than the talent the previous staff targeted, offered and recruited.

Yes, Hazell can be blamed for a lot of things. but win or lose, it was a team effort, and his coaching staff should accept a part of the blame for the players we targeted. And I blame our previous recruiting director for not going aggressively after recruits to get them to visit Purdue. And I blame our recruiting director for not standing up to Hazell and the other coaches to make offers to elite talent and bring them to Purdue.

I looked at Nebraska's recruiting page last month. They are having an Ok year recruiting wise, and are historically and recently better than Purdue. However, I was blown away looking at their target and offers page. While they have signed a bunch of 3* athletes, their targets page was about 50+ 4/5 * athletes. they set their sites HIGH !

and we didn't . We went after 3 and 2 * athletes and we signed them. and as recruiting coordinator, yes, I believe Parker is partly to blame for that. Hazell was bad, but I don't believe it was all his fault.

So to Parker I say, either take the job or move on. Don't screw us over waiting in limbo for you to say yes. We've already lost one quality 3* RB waiting for us to make a decision and maybe two. .
 
it seems obvious to me that Brohm left the RB coaching job open for Parker. Hopefully Parker either accepts it or moves on. it's rather obvious, we don't need Parker as our recruiting coordinator as the talent I'm seeing targeted, recruited and signed is significantly better than the talent the previous staff targeted, offered and recruited.

Yes, Hazell can be blamed for a lot of things. but win or lose, it was a team effort, and his coaching staff should accept a part of the blame for the players we targeted. And I blame our previous recruiting director for not going aggressively after recruits to get them to visit Purdue. And I blame our recruiting director for not standing up to Hazell and the other coaches to make offers to elite talent and bring them to Purdue.

I looked at Nebraska's recruiting page last month. They are having an Ok year recruiting wise, and are historically and recently better than Purdue. However, I was blown away looking at their target and offers page. While they have signed a bunch of 3* athletes, their targets page was about 50+ 4/5 * athletes. they set their sites HIGH !

and we didn't . We went after 3 and 2 * athletes and we signed them. and as recruiting coordinator, yes, I believe Parker is partly to blame for that. Hazell was bad, but I don't believe it was all his fault.

So to Parker I say, either take the job or move on. Don't screw us over waiting in limbo for you to say yes. We've already lost one quality 3* RB waiting for us to make a decision and maybe two. .

Which 3* RB was lost? Only one I know of is Branch, and that had nothing to do with Parker...
 
Well here is who CJB brought from WKU and their roles at WKU...

Brian Brohm - Co-Off Coor/QBs
Nick Holt - Def Coor/LBs
Reggie Johnson - Def Ends
Tony Levine - Co-Off Coor/Spec Teams Coor/TEs
Dale Williams - Offensive Line

Here's is who CJB hired and their role at the previous school....

Anthony Poindexter - Secondary
JaMarcus Shephard - WRs

So it looks like one offense (RB coach) and one defense coach.

With all the hype about how we gave such a good pool of money for assistants (top 4 or so in the Big Ten? Which I'd imagine is around top 20 in the nation) - so far, we've basically gave the Western Kentucky coaching staff massive pay raises. A little disappointing we haven't snagged some higher-level coaches with the pool of money available. Hopefully in this situation, the pool is not being fully utilized to provide raises to keep staff around. At least that's what I will keep telling myself.
 
We lost Branch in November before Brohm arrived. As interim head coach, Parker was in charge of keeping our committed players committed. Obviously, he allowed Branch to slip away. I blame that decomitt on Parker, not Hazell or Brohm. Who do you blame for losing Branch ? UNC ?? And now Brohm is trying to recruit 3* RB Tim Jordan . it would be a whole lot easier to recruit Jordan if we had a running backs coach. Jordan is only going to be available for a short time before he starts looking elsewhere. if we lose out on Jordan, I blame the fact we don't have a RBs coach.
 
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The AFCA (American Football Coaches Association) meeting began yesterday in Nashville. This is the yearly coaching convention at which much movement generally takes place. It is common to see much movement at this time. I'm not saying we'll see the rest of the roles filled at this time, but it is possible.

At WKU, looking at what he had versus what he currently has, he would fill a RB spot and a DT spot. That doesn't mean that is how he caps it off here, but could potentially. I am disappointed as it doesn't look like we'll end up with Ellis. He was Pass Game Coordinator and called the bowl game as OC. Perhaps he has a bigger gig lined up.

So all in all it is hard to say how it gets finalized, but I'd guess we'd know fairly soon.
 
With all the hype about how we gave such a good pool of money for assistants (top 4 or so in the Big Ten? Which I'd imagine is around top 20 in the nation) - so far, we've basically gave the Western Kentucky coaching staff massive pay raises. A little disappointing we haven't snagged some higher-level coaches with the pool of money available. Hopefully in this situation, the pool is not being fully utilized to provide raises to keep staff around. At least that's what I will keep telling myself.

And arguably, most of these guys either have been at major programs before or could have easily moved ahead to major programs. I'm not against bringing in the guys Brohm is familiar with right now to ease the transition and the expectations he has for the players. It has long been proven that Tiller was able to get in to Purdue and get the culture turned around because he brought his whole staff with him from Wyoming. There was no questions about ability or where a coach may lack in ability...they knew each other very well. If after year one, Brohm doesn't like the guys he brought with him OR another coach becomes available that he feels is an upgrade, then allow Brohm the ability to go get him...and having that bigger pool allows Brohm to attract that type of coach in the future.

If Brohm is successful, like we hope, we had better have some compensation model in place to retain or attract coaches.
 
With all the hype about how we gave such a good pool of money for assistants (top 4 or so in the Big Ten? Which I'd imagine is around top 20 in the nation) - so far, we've basically gave the Western Kentucky coaching staff massive pay raises. A little disappointing we haven't snagged some higher-level coaches with the pool of money available. Hopefully in this situation, the pool is not being fully utilized to provide raises to keep staff around. At least that's what I will keep telling myself.

I believe some of the money is going to be spent on more off the field staff as well. Instead of having one recruiting staff and one operations staff they are going to use those extra funds to hire more.
 
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I believe some of the money is going to be spent on more off the field staff as well. Instead of having one recruiting staff and one operations staff they are going to use those extra funds to hire more.

The 3.5M is for on field coaches and does not include the support staff. At least that's the perception.
 
Purdue not keeping up with most hated rival. Do what Iowa does. Nepotism. Capt. Kirk Ferentz just promoted his son, Brian, to OC. KF signed thru 2023, but he'll never stay that long. BF a few years of grooming and my Hawkeyes on their way to 6.5 wins/year thru 2040.
WaaaaaaaaaaaWEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!
 
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Looks like Barclay won't be the RB coach like most projected. Per Purdue website, he was hired today as Offensive Quality Control. Seems to me that Parker will be our RB coach.
 
Nice to see Purdue is finally playing catch-up with a new staff and new AD on how modern coaching staffs are put together and structured. It is nice to see MBob showing that unless you want to pay to play the game, the university is going to hemorrhage money overall to keep the AD standing.
 
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I would guess that Barclay is on the coaching staff if/when the extra assistant is added.
 
Looks like Brohm gave the running backs coaching job to Parker and is still waiting for his reply. And if Parker is not interested in staying, Brohm has a capable replacement in Barclay. It also appears Parker is looking for a new job, maybe as an OC, but has received no offers. Eventually Brohm will get tired of waiting, and will move on.
 
Looks like Brohm gave the running backs coaching job to Parker and is still waiting for his reply. And if Parker is not interested in staying, Brohm has a capable replacement in Barclay. It also appears Parker is looking for a new job, maybe as an OC, but has received no offers. Eventually Brohm will get tired of waiting, and will move on.
and how do you know all of that?
 
and how do you know all of that?
Because my Purdue education and chemistry classes taught me how to make a hypothesis, collect data, make observations, and draw conclusions from my data and observations.

Data. Brohm and Parker went on a high school recruiting trip together. A lot of the current players and some fans like Parker. Parker was picked as interim head coach verses both co-ords, so the AD must like him. Brohm is a very organized guy, and for some reason has still not named a coach for a very integral position. He just brought his RB coach on board from WKU and assigned him as quality control? Parker has been a RB coach before he became a WR coach.

Conclusion. It seems to me the only logical conclusion for Brohm not hiring a RB coach is he offered it to somebody and is waiting for a reply. And Parker has said nothing about his coaching future while other Purdue coaches have signed elsewhere and Parker is too young to retire. So my conclusion is Brohm offered Parker a chance to stay and be part of his staff. And the only position left is RB coach. My other conclusion is Brohm is not like Hazell who just sits back and waits for something to happen. Brohm is a man of action. And if he offered the job to somebody, he's not the type of guy who will wait forever.

So I'm speculating Brohm offered the job to Parker and is waiting for his reply, but he won't wait forever. And this is a forum and not a sports news site, and forums were made for opinions and speculations.
 
Because my Purdue education and chemistry classes taught me how to make a hypothesis, collect data, make observations, and draw conclusions from my data and observations.

Data. Brohm and Parker went on a high school recruiting trip together. A lot of the current players and some fans like Parker. Parker was picked as interim head coach verses both co-ords, so the AD must like him. Brohm is a very organized guy, and for some reason has still not named a coach for a very integral position. He just brought his RB coach on board from WKU and assigned him as quality control? Parker has been a RB coach before he became a WR coach.

Conclusion. It seems to me the only logical conclusion for Brohm not hiring a RB coach is he offered it to somebody and is waiting for a reply. And Parker has said nothing about his coaching future while other Purdue coaches have signed elsewhere and Parker is too young to retire. So my conclusion is Brohm offered Parker a chance to stay and be part of his staff. And the only position left is RB coach. My other conclusion is Brohm is not like Hazell who just sits back and waits for something to happen. Brohm is a man of action. And if he offered the job to somebody, he's not the type of guy who will wait forever.

So I'm speculating Brohm offered the job to Parker and is waiting for his reply, but he won't wait forever. And this is a forum and not a sports news site, and forums were made for opinions and speculations.
So what I gathered is you really don't know anything for sure, you're just speculating.
 
So what I gathered is you really don't know anything for sure, you're just speculating.
That's why he called it a hypothesis. Hypotheses are, by nature, not fact but propositions set forth to explain a circumstance when established fact are not available.
 
I've heard Parker is waiting on hearing back on some HC openings at the FCS level. The RB position was kept open to him so long as he continues to handle recruiting coordinator duties until he commits one way or another. Brohm has nothing to lose here as this helps maintain some stability in the recruiting cycle. If Parker later leaves Barclay gets upgraded.
 
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It seems the Brian,owner of this site, tweeted the same hypothesis as mine about Parker being offered the job, and if he goes elsewhere, then Barclay takes over as RB coach. hmmmmm.
 
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With Parker now headed off to Cincy, we can certainly assume Barclay will be the RB coach. That would leave a spot available on the defense. Any ideas or rumors of who will be the 9th coach to fill out the staff?
 
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With Parker now headed off to Cincy, we can certainly assume Barclay will be the RB coach. That would leave a spot available on the defense. Any ideas or rumors of who will be the 9th coach to fill out the staff?

I was really hopeful (and some people close to the program I know) that's Randy Melvin would stay on as a DL coach. When he had a full assortment of talent to work with this season, the DL made plays and was a solid group. Give him some more depth and talent to work with and he could help rebuild the program.

However, I think you are seeing Brohm going with younger coaches who are a fistful of energy first and foremost. I don't think any fan is going to question the energy or work ethic of anyone on staff under Brohm.
 
Interesting to see that Parker goes to Cincinnati to take the RB coach job, when it was probably offered to him at Purdue.

Not to sad to see him go, as I'm thrilled with the direction the new staff has taken.
 
it will be fun to watch Cincy, WMU and Minn and arm chair QBs and play the what if game. We kind of gave Cincy and Minn a head start. Fleck looks like he is doing well and attracting other players other than the WMU flips.
 
Parker had no real future here. He has a chance to move to OC and maybe eventually a HC job elsewhere from Cincy. Meanwhile, Brian Brohm is pretty much being groomed to eventually take the OC position full time here.
 
The 3.5M is for on field coaches and does not include the support staff. At least that's the perception.

Those people cannot make THAT much money.

Everyone bragged about how great of a coaching salary pool we gave and how it ranks in the Big Ten - now it's we have the same crappy assistant salaries but just hired some guys to hold up boards with pictures to call plays? Great!

(this is part sarcasm as I know support staff is valuable - but support staff shouldn't make huge dents in a $3.5 million pool)

I'm still underwhelmed at the assistant hires given the pool. But you don't always get what you want in your first season, I understand that. That being said, you look at Maryland - they put together a pretty impressive staff from the get-go, made huge strides immediately in recruiting and going into their second year, their recruiting class is ranked 14th in the country.

You saw bumps with Maryland last year, you see bumps with Minnesota this year - and Purdue has just maintained.

I know that the first class only means so much, but at the same time, there are reason to be cautious (which this board seems to be wearing some tinted glasses). Overall, I have not seen many 'results' that have been super impressive. He basically hired his entire staff and the recruiting has been par for the course (and I'm glad he's taken a very logical approach to recruiting, but not sure one should get a pat on the back for doing the obvious).
 
Those people cannot make THAT much money.

Everyone bragged about how great of a coaching salary pool we gave and how it ranks in the Big Ten - now it's we have the same crappy assistant salaries but just hired some guys to hold up boards with pictures to call plays? Great!

(this is part sarcasm as I know support staff is valuable - but support staff shouldn't make huge dents in a $3.5 million pool)

I'm still underwhelmed at the assistant hires given the pool. But you don't always get what you want in your first season, I understand that. That being said, you look at Maryland - they put together a pretty impressive staff from the get-go, made huge strides immediately in recruiting and going into their second year, their recruiting class is ranked 14th in the country.

You saw bumps with Maryland last year, you see bumps with Minnesota this year - and Purdue has just maintained.

I know that the first class only means so much, but at the same time, there are reason to be cautious (which this board seems to be wearing some tinted glasses). Overall, I have not seen many 'results' that have been super impressive. He basically hired his entire staff and the recruiting has been par for the course (and I'm glad he's taken a very logical approach to recruiting, but not sure one should get a pat on the back for doing the obvious).
I see plenty of changes. First of all on the coaching staff, we have 2 assistants who have been head coaches, and 4 assistants who've been co-ordinators. I'm sorry this underwhelms you. You seem like a guy who won't be satisfied no matter what. Now as for the players, he has Hamilton, Jallow and Williams who are all 4 stars in other services. In case you missed that, we have 3 four stars. Somehow that isn't what I expected to see for underwhelming. Williams will be the biggest recruit in quite some time. Even with just Williams and Jallow. CJB has completely changed our secondary. If he adds Corey Winfield then it will improve that much more. I don't get how such monumental change can be taking place and some people don't see it. Underwhelming you say? I say you're wrong. I say great improvement has been achieved already and the best is yet to come.

P.S-Our new DC, Nick Holt, previously served as DC at USC and at Washington...yet you are underwhelmed? Oh my how opinions differ.
 
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Those people cannot make THAT much money.

Everyone bragged about how great of a coaching salary pool we gave and how it ranks in the Big Ten - now it's we have the same crappy assistant salaries but just hired some guys to hold up boards with pictures to call plays? Great!

(this is part sarcasm as I know support staff is valuable - but support staff shouldn't make huge dents in a $3.5 million pool)

I'm still underwhelmed at the assistant hires given the pool. But you don't always get what you want in your first season, I understand that. That being said, you look at Maryland - they put together a pretty impressive staff from the get-go, made huge strides immediately in recruiting and going into their second year, their recruiting class is ranked 14th in the country.

You saw bumps with Maryland last year, you see bumps with Minnesota this year - and Purdue has just maintained.

I know that the first class only means so much, but at the same time, there are reason to be cautious (which this board seems to be wearing some tinted glasses). Overall, I have not seen many 'results' that have been super impressive. He basically hired his entire staff and the recruiting has been par for the course (and I'm glad he's taken a very logical approach to recruiting, but not sure one should get a pat on the back for doing the obvious).
you forgot Rutgers in your argument.
 
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