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Yes, a ton of baggage, but hell, what's Purdue got to lose? It can't get any worse. And yes, he's probably jump ship if he got the program turned around and a power program came calling, but at least he's have the program off the bottom.
Not sure if he's waiting on a shot at an SEC program or would take any shot to become a HC again, but at least it would cause a lot of national buzz and get people's attention.
 
Ah, yes, buzz and attention, that's what we need, along with some emotion on the sidelines. The depth of substantive football knowledge on this board is truly amazing.
 
bonefish1 said:
Yes, a ton of baggage, but hell, what's Purdue got to lose? It can't get any worse. And yes, he's probably jump ship if he got the program turned around and a power program came calling, but at least he's have the program off the bottom.
Not sure if he's waiting on a shot at an SEC program or would take any shot to become a HC again, but at least it would cause a lot of national buzz and get people's attention.
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Kiffin is a "great play caller and recruiter", but he's only been at USC, Tennessee, and Alabama, and the situation he would walk into here couldn't be any more different than the situation at those schools.

Plus, he doesn't really strike me as a leader of young men.
 
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Actually 3 tries, he was the HC of the Oakland Raiders for about a year and a half. Another plus for Boilermaker fans, he would be able to recruit areas needed, and tell them he has experience with getting guys to the NFL and coaching in the league.
 
nat100 said:
i think he is a great coordinator. He hasnt proven he can build a program or be a head coach in 2 tries.
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And how great a coordinator do you have to be when 80% of your players are 4 or 5 star recruits? That's an astounding number.
 
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USC fans thought he was awesome when he was the OC helping them rise back to national prominence under Pete Carroll. You do realize that he took over the program just as the brunt of the sanctions hit the Trojan program after Carroll left? He was still be able to recruit pretty well with those sanctions in place. The UT fan base hated because he left them after 1 year, when he said he would be there for the long haul, but that doesn't make him any different than some coaches, including Larry Brown on the basketball side.
 
nat100 said:
Yes. $1.4M to be exact.

Guy has to insert new players at QB every year. Yes they are highly ranked, but that doesnt mean it isnt difficult. Great offensive coordinator IMO
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I guess I just can't get past that all of his success has been at 2 of the bluest blue blood programs, under 2 of the greatest college HCs of the last several decades. But you're right, Saban ain't paying him that kind of cash if he's not worth it.
 
I think someone on KHC posted a year ago about Purdue reaching out to him to gauge his interest level. I can't remember for sure.
 
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I feel like that would be kiffins reaction if his agent suggested Purdue as a possible gig
 
I went to grade school with Lane Kiffin. His dad was a Vikings coach back in the day so he grew up in Minneapolis. He's a dick. I think he's perfect for a coordinator type role with superior talent (i.e Bama) but I would not give him the keys to the program. His trophy wife would not want to live in Lafayette.
 
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Superfan76 said:
I went to grade school with Lane Kiffin. His dad was a Vikings coach back in the day so he grew up in Minneapolis. He's a dick. I think he's perfect for a coordinator type role with superior talent (i.e Bama) but I would not give him the keys to the program. His trophy wife would not want to live in Lafayette.
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His wife can make plenty of trips to Chicago with a $3M salary.
You think she's enjoying living in Hicksville Alabama?
 
This makes me chuckle. Kiffin wouldn't come here for 5 mil a year. All of this losing has caused some on this board to become comatose. Don't kid yourself Fleck won't come either. We're going to get a current coordinator looking for a head coaching job.
 
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Heiner said:
This makes me chuckle. Kiffin wouldn't come here for 5 mil a year. All of this losing has caused some on this board to become comatose. Don't kid yourself Fleck won't come either. We're going to get a current coordinator looking for a head coaching job.
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So, give us some more details about your meetings with Kiffin and Flecks agents.
 
bonefish1 said:
So, give us some more details about your meetings with Kiffin and Flecks agents.
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I think Heiner's point is, no decent coach under 50 is going to take the PU job unless he's interested in early retirement (most likely forced) or spending the rest of his career bouncing around as a position coach at sub-P5 schools. Face it, the HC job at Purdue is for some 50+ year-old guy who's never had his chance at the "big time," looking to make good enough money that he can just retire if he gets fired after 5 years at PU, which is the most likely scenario any rational coach would see for himself at PU.
 
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bonefish1 said:
Yes, a ton of baggage, but hell, what's Purdue got to lose? It can't get any worse. And yes, he's probably jump ship if he got the program turned around and a power program came calling, but at least he's have the program off the bottom.
Not sure if he's waiting on a shot at an SEC program or would take any shot to become a HC again, but at least it would cause a lot of national buzz and get people's attention.
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NO.
 
BoilerBonz said:
I think Heiner's point is, no decent coach under 50 is going to take the PU job unless he's interested in early retirement (most likely forced) or spending the rest of his career bouncing around as a position coach at sub-P5 schools. Face it, the HC job at Purdue is for some 50+ year-old guy who's never had his chance at the "big time," looking to make good enough money that he can just retire if he gets fired after 5 years at PU, which is the most likely scenario any rational coach would see for himself at PU.
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Completely disagree.
If MBob can sell the opportunity as one to put the Cradle of QBs back on the map, that the AD and BOT are committed to competing for championships, that the head coach will be provided with whatever resources he and his assistants need, then you might find a big name coach who would make a huge name for himself if he can get Purdue back to the top.
The challenge is, are all those commitments there? Because if they're not, then yes, you're essentially telling prospective HCs, that we just want to be competitive, not lose money and make a decent bowl game every few years.

It's all about the commitment to changing the culture and expectations of the program.
 
bonefish1 said:
Yes, a ton of baggage, but hell, what's Purdue got to lose? It can't get any worse. And yes, he's probably jump ship if he got the program turned around and a power program came calling, but at least he's have the program off the bottom.
Not sure if he's waiting on a shot at an SEC program or would take any shot to become a HC again, but at least it would cause a lot of national buzz and get people's attention.
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He is a great asst coach or co-ordinator, that is it. That is apparently DH1 and DH2's area of expertise also.

Try Bob Stoops. I think he is tired of OU. Played at Iowa and is from Ohio.
 
bonefish1 said:
Completely disagree.
If MBob can sell the opportunity as one to put the Cradle of QBs back on the map, that the AD and BOT are committed to competing for championships, that the head coach will be provided with whatever resources he and his assistants need, then you might find a big name coach who would make a huge name for himself if he can get Purdue back to the top.
The challenge is, are all those commitments there? Because if they're not, then yes, you're essentially telling prospective HCs, that we just want to be competitive, not lose money and make a decent bowl game every few years.

It's all about the commitment to changing the culture and expectations of the program.
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The coaching fraternity views the Purdue culture as one that does not value success in athletics, or one that isn't willing, or capable, of being even the slightest bit creative to achieve success in athletics.

To change this, you have to change 35 years of inertia from the Prez's Office, to the BOT, down to the AD. And it starts with this nonsense about being a "self-supporting" athletic department. Note that PU is the only school claiming to have a self-supporting athletic department that doesn't have an elite football program.

What does that tell us? At these other "self-supporting" schools, like O$U, the non-revenue sports thrive off the riches produced by a football program that comes first. While at PU, the non-revenues get their allocation, the university swallows a big piece, and then football has to live off whatever is left.

You're right only if this business model for athletics actually changes at PU, but I won't believe until I see it. And if this "self-supporting" nonsense continues, then I'm likely more accurate about the profile of our next HC (IMHO).

So actually, we don't disagree, except maybe on whether the Prez and BOT will revisit the business model for PU athletics.
 
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bonefish1 said:
Yes, a ton of baggage, but hell, what's Purdue got to lose? It can't get any worse. And yes, he's probably jump ship if he got the program turned around and a power program came calling, but at least he's have the program off the bottom.
Not sure if he's waiting on a shot at an SEC program or would take any shot to become a HC again, but at least it would cause a lot of national buzz and get people's attention.
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He is a great asst coach or co-ordinator, and a proven non head coach.
 
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BoilerBonz said:
The coaching fraternity views the Purdue culture as one that does not value success in athletics, or one that isn't willing, or capable, of being even the slightest bit creative to achieve success in athletics.

To change this, you have to change 35 years of inertia from the Prez's Office, to the BOT, down to the AD. And it starts with this nonsense about being a "self-supporting" athletic department. Note that PU is the only school claiming to have a self-supporting athletic department that doesn't have an elite football program.

What does that tell us? At these other "self-supporting" schools, like O$U, the non-revenue sports thrive off the riches produced by a football program that comes first. While at PU, the non-revenues get their allocation, the university swallows a big piece, and then football has to live off whatever is left.

You're right only if this business model for athletics actually changes at PU, but I won't believe until I see it. And if this "self-supporting" nonsense continues, then I'm likely more accurate about the profile of our next HC (IMHO).

So actually, we don't disagree, except maybe on whether the Prez and BOT will revisit the business model for PU athletics.
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I would love to see the actual itemized breakdown of the AD's finances and see how it compares with the rest of the B10, particularly MSU who I think is our new measuring stick.
For example, does the university get any money from the Ath Dept from the B10 contract? If so, how much? How does this compare with other B10 schools?
Does the Univ provide any $ to the Ath Dept. Again, how much? Compare?
If PU athletics is truly at a financial disadvantage because of the way everything is set up, then I agree, you're handcuffing the program and not giving them a level playing field compared to the rest of the conference.
 
BoilerBonz said:
The coaching fraternity views the Purdue culture as one that does not value success in athletics, or one that isn't willing, or capable, of being even the slightest bit creative to achieve success in athletics.

To change this, you have to change 35 years of inertia from the Prez's Office, to the BOT, down to the AD. And it starts with this nonsense about being a "self-supporting" athletic department. Note that PU is the only school claiming to have a self-supporting athletic department that doesn't have an elite football program.

What does that tell us? At these other "self-supporting" schools, like O$U, the non-revenue sports thrive off the riches produced by a football program that comes first. While at PU, the non-revenues get their allocation, the university swallows a big piece, and then football has to live off whatever is left.

You're right only if this business model for athletics actually changes at PU, but I won't believe until I see it. And if this "self-supporting" nonsense continues, then I'm likely more accurate about the profile of our next HC (IMHO).

So actually, we don't disagree, except maybe on whether the Prez and BOT will revisit the business model for PU athletics.
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Based on the hire of MB2, that in itself did not appear to be significant change in athletic priorities/philosophy/etc yet.
(But Maybe he will change?)
 
Greg Shiano and Spack are my 1a and 1b choices followed by fleck and then Kiffin.
After reading this article http://mmqb.si.com/2014/11/04/nfl-greg-schiano-year-off it makes me think Shiano would be a good coach here. He did a lot at Rutgers with minimal talent and spent some time in the NFL and has now spent a year with Meyer. I think the time off has allowed him to grow as a coach a lot.
Always liked Spack a lot and Tiller has said he was his top recruiter. He's proved it at the FCS level as well. Both recruiting and winning.
Fleck is a really good recruiter and has a lot of energy.
Kiffin I don't think has been set up well to be successful as a coach and can recruit and would bring some attention from the outside.
Brohm would be my next choice, but don't enough about him to comment. Good offenses I know. I gravitate towards defensive coaches though.
Would any of them come here? I'd hope at least one of them would, and I would think we'd have the best chance with Shiano and Spack.
 
threeeputtt said:
He is a great asst coach or co-ordinator, that is it. That is apparently DH1 and DH2's area of expertise also.

Try Bob Stoops. I think he is tired of OU. Played at Iowa and is from Ohio.
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Bob Stoops. Very interesting. B1G is becoming the place to be for coaches. He would have a hell of a lot less pressure here than at OU. He might see it as a final challenge for his career. You can win easier in the West to without facing Urb, Jimbo and Dantonio every year too. Throw Stoops some major money. I think you're on to something.
 
Heiner said:
Bob Stoops. Very interesting. B1G is becoming the place to be for coaches. He would have a hell of a lot less pressure here than at OU. He might see it as a final challenge for his career. You can win easier in the West to without facing Urb, Jimbo and Dantonio every year too. Throw Stoops some major money. I think you're on to something.
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throw $10M a year at him?
ha, i'm not sure i can find the appropriate emoticon for talking about b.stoops here
 
BoilerBiker said:
throw $10M a year at him?
ha, i'm not sure i can find the appropriate emoticon for talking about b.stoops here
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Oh I'm with you about it being a stretch for sure but he makes a lot more sense than many of the other dreams being shared here. I think Stoops might be looking for work at the end of the year.
 
I'm not opposed to Stoops either. Like it's been said, he might be looking for work, he'd be a big name hire, the fan/alumni base would love it, he'd probably inject some life into recruiting, he'd have an opportunity to build a program from the ground up, etc.

But, like some others have said, does MBob and the BOD have 'vision' or do they just want to play it safe financially with a MAC hire and hope for the best?
 
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