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Justice for Jussie!

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Oh...poor little racist...He gets' 5 months in the big house and has to pay $130K in restitution.

It'll be interesting to know if he's put in the general population or segregated. I doubt the guards at Cook County are going to have much sympathy for him.
 

It's the party of "lack of emotional impulse control".

It's not surprising that when one of their gold star heros (black, gay, liberal) cries wolf, that they all immediately jump on the bandwagon, not even taking 1 minute to consider whether it's a true story or not (which most people with 1/2 a brain new was a hoax as soon as the news came out).
 
It's the party of "lack of emotional impulse control".

It's not surprising that when one of their gold star heros (black, gay, liberal) cries wolf, that they all immediately jump on the bandwagon, not even taking 1 minute to consider whether it's a true story or not (which most people with 1/2 a brain new was a hoax as soon as the news came out).
It'll continue to happen. Any time a black person is killed by the police, the police officers will be prosecuted in the press immediately...
 
Oh...poor little racist...He gets' 5 months in the big house and has to pay $130K in restitution.

It'll be interesting to know if he's put in the general population or segregated. I doubt the guards at Cook County are going to have much sympathy for him.
With prison overcrowding I would be surprised he serves more than a couple days. The Sheriff and Court system are putting violent felons on home monitoring I doubt they use a bed on this guy. I would prefer a larger fine to recoup money. The judge knows he ain’t serving much time.

As a side bar living in Chicago nobody I knew believed this story from the start and even the local media was questioning. This upset Mr. Jussie. It was a completely unbelievable story on many aspects. If you were a believer you should be embarrassed and should include an apology on your next post. Believing this story is because you want something so bad to be true. It wasn’t, Have you at all thought about your news sources and associations you promised you it was? I would.
 
With prison overcrowding I would be surprised he serves more than a couple days. The Sheriff and Court system are putting violent felons on home monitoring I doubt they use a bed on this guy. I would prefer a larger fine to recoup money. The judge knows he ain’t serving much time.

As a side bar living in Chicago nobody I knew believed this story from the start and even the local media was questioning. This upset Mr. Jussie. It was a completely unbelievable story on many aspects. If you were a believer you should be embarrassed and should include an apology on your next post. Believing this story is because you want something so bad to be true. It wasn’t, Have you at all thought about your news sources and associations you promised you it was? I would.
Meanwhile other parts of Chicago are like a shooting gallery and there is a collective yawn. This case got far more coverage than it ever deserved.
 
Meanwhile other parts of Chicago are like a shooting gallery and there is a collective yawn. This case got far more coverage than it ever deserved.
No. The real crime was the amount of man power and resources that were devoted to this idiot. Imagine your child was murdered and detectives lost time because of this idiot. And still no remorse. And remember this is a defund the police groupee. Well in a way he did because they were preoccupied on a farce.
 
No. The real crime was the amount of man power and resources that were devoted to this idiot. Imagine your child was murdered and detectives lost time because of this idiot. And still no remorse. And remember this is a defund the police groupee. Well in a way he did because they were preoccupied on a farce.
I was referring to media coverage, not LE.
 
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With prison overcrowding I would be surprised he serves more than a couple days. The Sheriff and Court system are putting violent felons on home monitoring I doubt they use a bed on this guy. I would prefer a larger fine to recoup money. The judge knows he ain’t serving much time.

As a side bar living in Chicago nobody I knew believed this story from the start and even the local media was questioning. This upset Mr. Jussie. It was a completely unbelievable story on many aspects. If you were a believer you should be embarrassed and should include an apology on your next post. Believing this story is because you want something so bad to be true. It wasn’t, Have you at all thought about your news sources and associations you promised you it was? I would.

Unfortunately, we got some real dip$hits on this board who probably do believe his story (Bob? BNI? PurdueFan1? Indy35?) Of course, these are the same dip$hits who also believe OJ is innocent and voted for Biden, so you have to take that into consideration.
 
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No. The real crime was the amount of man power and resources that were devoted to this idiot. Imagine your child was murdered and detectives lost time because of this idiot. And still no remorse. And remember this is a defund the police groupee. Well in a way he did because they were preoccupied on a farce.
I lived in Chicago for 20 years in the 90-2000's. It had a lot of the same problems, but the Daley's and the Machine kept the knuckleheads in line and kept the shitiness on the south and near westsides. Granted, Daley was corrupt and crooked, but compared to Mayor BeetleJuice, he was like the Dali Lama.
 
Unfortunately, we got some real dip$hits on this board who probably do believe his story (Bob? BNI? PurdueFan1? Indy35?) Of course, these are the same dip$hits who also believe OJ is innocent and voted for Biden, so you have to take that into consideration.
I believed the story when it first came out. However as the facts came out my belief dwindled. All morning on urban radio, 99% of the blacks calling in and the host agree with the verdict and sentencing. He basically deserved what he got.
 
I believed the story when it first came out. However as the facts came out my belief dwindled. All morning on urban radio, 99% of the blacks calling in and the host agree with the verdict and sentencing. He basically deserved what he got.
No he deserved more. He deserved to pay back millions in lost resources and personally apologize to every family who was a victim of a violent crime and had their case put on the back burner because of this idiot - and statistically most of those are POC.

But an honest question. You seem street smart. What was it about his story that at any point you could believe? A multi millionaire going out for a sandwich at 2 am in sub-zero weather being jumped by 2 Trump supporters (prob the only 2 in Chicago) wearing MAGA hats who happened to recognize him and also were carrying a noose and bleach. Oh, and he fought off the two huge guys ( who worked out in my gym actually) and still had his sandwich when the cops arrived. And had the noose on.

Or was it more about you wanting it to be true? I agree it was such a great narrative. So many Dem pols got to tweet out about the racism of the right. But it was all an obvious farce that nobody thought would get exposed.

But in the end who was damaged most? POC crime victims and 2 black kids from my neighborhood that Jussie and his machine ran through the ringer.

Oh, and the people of Chicago overwhelmingly RE-elected Kim Foxx despite dropping all charges because Michelle Obama’s friend called her. To quote Sinead O’Conner “and that’s why I’m leaving.”
 
It's the party of "lack of emotional impulse control".

It's not surprising that when one of their gold star heros (black, gay, liberal) cries wolf, that they all immediately jump on the bandwagon, not even taking 1 minute to consider whether it's a true story or not (which most people with 1/2 a brain new was a hoax as soon as the news came out).
How could you say that it was an obvious hoax? Don't you believe that TV star Jussie decided to leave his apartment at 2 AM to walk to a Subway to get a sandwich in subfreezing temperatures? He was then attacked by two Black brothers wearing MAGA hats, who just happened to be out walking around in subfreezing temperatures in Chicago and it was portrayed as as a Racial incident. How could anyone find any flaws in that narrative?
 
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How could you say that it was an obvious hoax? Don't you believe that TV star Jussie decided to leave his apartment at 2 AM to walk to a Subway to get a sandwich in subfreezing temperatures? He was then attacked by two Black brothers wearing MAGA hats, who just happened to be out walking around in subfreezing temperatures in Chicago and it was portrayed as as a Racial incident. How could anyone find any flaws in that narrative?
Here's what I believe...Jusse should be in general pop with all the boys. He'd be really popular there
 
@BNIBoiler you said there was a different justice system for blacks. I'm beginning to think you're correct...
It is quite insensitive and ignorant to highlight the Smollett case when during the discussion of racial injustices of the judicial system. Y’all bring up this one case and perhaps a few others when there are thousands in US currently and historically for decades that whites have benefitted favorably in the justice system. Also, it is more than just unequal sentencing. When was the last time a white people in police custody had confessions beaten out of them for crimes that they did not commit? When was the last time police planted evidence in a white person’s car when stopped? If stopped in the first place. When was the last time a white was harassed by police do no reason? Blacks have been going through this for decades and y’all have the nerve to get upset that one dude like Smollett is getting off easy.
 
It is quite insensitive and ignorant to highlight the Smollett case when during the discussion of racial injustices of the judicial system. Y’all bring up this one case and perhaps a few others when there are thousands in US currently and historically for decades that whites have benefitted favorably in the justice system. Also, it is more than just unequal sentencing. When was the last time a white people in police custody had confessions beaten out of them for crimes that they did not commit? When was the last time police planted evidence in a white person’s car when stopped? If stopped in the first place. When was the last time a white was harassed by police do no reason? Blacks have been going through this for decades and y’all have the nerve to get upset that one dude like Smollett is getting off easy.

It's pretty easy to bait you into emotional rants that have no facts behind them...
 
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Just because you and other white people have never heard of these cases does not mean that it doesn't happen. The fact that white people never hear about these incidents in history and currently is the exact point of white privilege. No facts? What about the Central Park 5 back in the late 80's/early 90's. Five teenagers were accused of raping a woman jogging in Central Park in NYC. 5 teenagers were arrested. Confessions beat out of them and they went to prison. Donald Chump at the time took out a full page add in the NYC papers calling for their execution. Fortunately for the boys, DNA has come to prominence and exonerated all 5 boys.
 
Just because you and other white people have never heard of these cases does not mean that it doesn't happen. The fact that white people never hear about these incidents in history and currently is the exact point of white privilege. No facts? What about the Central Park 5 back in the late 80's/early 90's. Five teenagers were accused of raping a woman jogging in Central Park in NYC. 5 teenagers were arrested. Confessions beat out of them and they went to prison. Donald Chump at the time took out a full page add in the NYC papers calling for their execution. Fortunately for the boys, DNA has come to prominence and exonerated all 5 boys.
Imagine if African-Americans as a group committed crimes at the same rate as every other group. There would be far fewer cries of racism, police brutality, defund the police etc. etc. The issues would probably largely resolve themselves.
 
It is quite insensitive and ignorant to highlight the Smollett case when during the discussion of racial injustices of the judicial system. Y’all bring up this one case and perhaps a few others when there are thousands in US currently and historically for decades that whites have benefitted favorably in the justice system. Also, it is more than just unequal sentencing. When was the last time a white people in police custody had confessions beaten out of them for crimes that they did not commit? When was the last time police planted evidence in a white person’s car when stopped? If stopped in the first place. When was the last time a white was harassed by police do no reason? Blacks have been going through this for decades and y’all have the nerve to get upset that one dude like Smollett is getting off easy.
You're making a lot of assumptions. If you have bad cops and there are some of all races, I doubt race matters, if they want to incriminate someone by planting evidence or beating confessions out of people. You're just more sensitized to when it happens to Black people.

I think the Justice System leans more favorably toward the wealthy & prominent people in our society. Poor people of all races tend to get the short end of the stick.
 
You're making a lot of assumptions. If you have bad cops and there are some of all races, I doubt race matters, if they want to incriminate someone by planting evidence or beating confessions out of people. You're just more sensitized to when it happens to Black people.

I think the Justice System leans more favorably toward the wealthy & prominent people in our society. Poor people of all races tend to get the short end of the stick.
Sure there are bad cops of all races. 2 or 3 of the 6 cops involved in the Freddie Gray lynching were black. It was a black cop that shot the white lady in Minneapolis. However, most of these cases where unarmed blacks are killed, evidence are planted in cars, confessions beat out of people in custody involve white cops. I'm sure you can google this and google that to find exceptions. However, I challenge you and others to think from the top of your head that since you were a kid until now, have you ever heard of a white person in custody having a confession beat out of them for a crime they did not commit? Or heard of police planting evidence in a white person's vehicle.

Poor whites have as much privilege as wealthy white people. The white woman in Ohio that received a lesser sentence than the black woman for a similar crime by the same judge was not wealthy.
 
Sure there are bad cops of all races. 2 or 3 of the 6 cops involved in the Freddie Gray lynching were black. It was a black cop that shot the white lady in Minneapolis. However, most of these cases where unarmed blacks are killed, evidence are planted in cars, confessions beat out of people in custody involve white cops. I'm sure you can google this and google that to find exceptions. However, I challenge you and others to think from the top of your head that since you were a kid until now, have you ever heard of a white person in custody having a confession beat out of them for a crime they did not commit? Or heard of police planting evidence in a white person's vehicle.

Poor whites have as much privilege as wealthy white people. The white woman in Ohio that received a lesser sentence than the black woman for a similar crime by the same judge was not wealthy.
Today, privilege is largely a function of wealth. Just read a book by a guy who spent 20 years on death row for a murder he did not commit (he is black). He said in that situation you better have the money to hire your own lawyer or you are often screwed. He was screwed,
 
Today, privilege is largely a function of wealth. Just read a book by a guy who spent 20 years on death row for a murder he did not commit (he is black). He said in that situation you better have the money to hire your own lawyer or you are often screwed. He was screwed,
Having the ability to have a good lawyer is not privilege.

The black guy in your book confessed to that crime, didn't he.
 
Having the ability to have a good lawyer is not privilege.

The black guy in your book confessed to that crime, didn't he.
It is if the most effective ones are in private practice.
No, he always maintained his innocence. He claimed the public defender never had the resources to mount an effective defense. It took place in Alabama in the 80's. That probably explains some of it.
 
It is if the most effective ones are in private practice.
No, he always maintained his innocence. He claimed the public defender never had the resources to mount an effective defense. It took place in Alabama in the 80's. That probably explains some of it.
You better believe that explains it.
 
Imagine if African-Americans as a group committed crimes at the same rate as every other group. There would be far fewer cries of racism, police brutality, defund the police etc. etc. The issues would probably largely resolve themselves.
This is the uncomfortable subject libs, lefties and dems won't tackle. Just like they won't tackle the 71% single mother birth rate.
In large parts of black society, it's a cultural problem.
 
Sure there are bad cops of all races. 2 or 3 of the 6 cops involved in the Freddie Gray lynching were black. It was a black cop that shot the white lady in Minneapolis. However, most of these cases where unarmed blacks are killed, evidence are planted in cars, confessions beat out of people in custody involve white cops. I'm sure you can google this and google that to find exceptions. However, I challenge you and others to think from the top of your head that since you were a kid until now, have you ever heard of a white person in custody having a confession beat out of them for a crime they did not commit? Or heard of police planting evidence in a white person's vehicle.

Poor whites have as much privilege as wealthy white people. The white woman in Ohio that received a lesser sentence than the black woman for a similar crime by the same judge was not wealthy.
Fact in evidence. Jussie Smollett’s case despite being a slam dunk was originally dropped by Kim Foxx based in large part (as proven) by a phone call of Tina Tchen, who you may remember was a member of Michelle Obama’s inner circle (some suggest the call was made on behalf of Ms. Obama. The special prosecutor was only assigned after a petition by a private citizen (and I believe a former federal judge). So please point me to a similar situation where a poor white defendant in a similar crime had charges dropped due to a call from an Obama accolade?

Funny thing shortly after Smollett’s charging being suddenly dropped a young black female from the SW suburbs was in court on charges of filing a false police report. Nothing near that of Smollett of course. Actually something that should have been a warning at most. The white judge in defense of the young girl asked the prosecutor directly why is it she is in his courtroom for a crime far less than Mr. Smollett. Quite a good question indeed. Guess what. This incident didn’t get much play because it didn’t follow the narrative.
 
Sure there are bad cops of all races. 2 or 3 of the 6 cops involved in the Freddie Gray lynching were black. It was a black cop that shot the white lady in Minneapolis. However, most of these cases where unarmed blacks are killed, evidence are planted in cars, confessions beat out of people in custody involve white cops. I'm sure you can google this and google that to find exceptions. However, I challenge you and others to think from the top of your head that since you were a kid until now, have you ever heard of a white person in custody having a confession beat out of them for a crime they did not commit? Or heard of police planting evidence in a white person's vehicle.

Poor whites have as much privilege as wealthy white people. The white woman in Ohio that received a lesser sentence than the black woman for a similar crime by the same judge was not wealthy.
"Poor whites have as much privilege as wealthy white people."

You've made dumb statements. But this one might be the dumbest. You have no idea what you're talking about...
 
Having the ability to have a good lawyer is not privilege.

The black guy in your book confessed to that crime, didn't he.
Having the ability to have a lawyer is not privilege.

The greater your wealth and privilege, the better the lawyer will be (regardless of race).
 
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Having the ability to have a lawyer is not privilege.

The greater your wealth and privilege, the better the lawyer will be (regardless of race).
Still doesn’t matter. Even you can afford the best lawyers around, there is still the one sided justice system to deal with. The judge as far as what evidences gets in or out. Jury selection. Sentencing etc.

By y’all not being black, knowing black people, close friends with black people, listening to black talk radio, throughout the years you would never hear stories of blacks getting railroaded in the legal and justice systems. That is why y’all are ignorant to what I’m saying. That is all part of white privilege.
 
Still doesn’t matter. Even you can afford the best lawyers around, there is still the one sided justice system to deal with. The judge as far as what evidences gets in or out. Jury selection. Sentencing etc.

By y’all not being black, knowing black people, close friends with black people, listening to black talk radio, throughout the years you would never hear stories of blacks getting railroaded in the legal and justice systems. That is why y’all are ignorant to what I’m saying. That is all part of white privilege.
Things have changed in the last couple years on what you stated. How would one explain the people who were arrested on January 6th that were white and jailed versus the people who burned government buildings and looted in Minneapolis and other cities that were black and not jailed?
 
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