IU's NEWEST banner tuns 30 Years old this Spring!

[DrCoach]

I took my youngest son to IU for a college visit. I was amazed that at least 1 hour of their 4 hour presentation was discussions about their basketball team and tradition. When I pointed out that it has now been 30 years since their last real success, they all seemed very unaware of that time frame. Sad really how much they really on their sports team for their identity.

 

[DG10]

I took my youngest son to IU for a college visit. I was amazed that at least 1 hour of their 4 hour presentation was discussions about their basketball team and tradition. When I pointed out that it has now been 30 years since their last real success, they all seemed very unaware of that time frame. Sad really how much they really on their sports team for their identity.

First, it is not as if they are the only school/institution that touts a proud athletic history as part of their identity. Maybe they do it more than others, but hard to know without knowing exactly what the other programs with historical success do. It is a big part of the college experience there for a lot of students and just in general (and other places for that matter as well).

30 years or not, at least they have a banner...and, in their case, they have multiple banners. Purdue has not even seen a Final Four in nearly 40 years, never mind their lone Men's Basketball National Championship banner is 85 years old (yet proudly on display). While it may have been 30 years since they last won the title, they played for it since then, and they have had a couple of Final Four appearances...so, to deem it their "last real success" is a bit misleading.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

Nothing wrong with touting your past successes, whether academic or athletic. I'm sure Army touts General Pershing or General Patton attending and UCLA touts their national championships and John Wooden.

 

[BoilerAndy]

I took my youngest son to IU for a college visit. I was amazed that at least 1 hour of their 4 hour presentation was discussions about their basketball team and tradition. When I pointed out that it has now been 30 years since their last real success, they all seemed very unaware of that time frame. Sad really how much they really on their sports team for their identity.

25 % seems like a lot of time. But I'm trying to imagine how they would fill the remaining 3 hours. What else could they brag about? Parties? Dorm food?

 

[dwhitebash11]

First, it is not as if they are the only school/institution that touts a proud athletic history as part of their identity. Maybe they do it more than others, but hard to know without knowing exactly what the other programs with historical success do. It is a big part of the college experience there for a lot of students and just in general (and other places for that matter as well).

30 years or not, at least they have a banner...and, in their case, they have multiple banners. Purdue has not even seen a Final Four in nearly 40 years, never mind their lone Men's Basketball National Championship banner is 85 years old (yet proudly on display). While it may have been 30 years since they last won the title, they played for it since then, and they have had a couple of Final Four appearances...so, to deem it their "last real success" is a bit misleading.

The difference between PU and IU though, is that we REALIZE it's been a long time since our tournament success. IU doesn't. They still consider themselves "blue bloods" of college basketball. That's like Yale saying they're still bluebloods of college football. And before you start pointing out "Well IU still has success in college basketball unlike Yale in college football", remember, we're talking about TOURNAMENT success. If you use that argument for you, don't use it against PU when you say we haven't had success in X amount of years, because we have had some really, really good teams with great records, just stumbled in the tournament.

 

[Upright Hoosier]

I took my youngest son to IU for a college visit. I was amazed that at least 1 hour of their 4 hour presentation was discussions about their basketball team and tradition. When I pointed out that it has now been 30 years since their last real success, they all seemed very unaware of that time frame. Sad really how much they really on their sports team for their identity.

I guess this is intended to be a knock on IU, but you do realize that by defining "real success" as winning the NCAA, you're basically highlighting the fact that Purdue hasn't had any real success (or hasn't since 1932 if you go back pre-tournament).

If March 1987 is so far back as to be irrelevant to you, I suppose you could compare the programs across schools from that point forward.

Head to head record - 29-25 in favor of IU
B1G 10 championships - IU: 6, PU: 5
NCAA appearances - IU: 23, PU: 20 (including the 1 vacated in 1996)
S16 - IU: 9, PU: 7
FF IU: 3, PU: 0

The above 28 years overlaps with Purdue's 2 best basketball coaches, whereas for IU, the last 16 years include 2 from that dirtball Sampson and 14 years of inferior coaching from 2 individuals this board has affectionately referred to as "Dumbles the Mumbling Clown" and "Clappy McTanerson".

You may very well be right that IU fans take too much pride in our sports programs, but if IU hasn't had any real success since March 1987 - looking at the above - I'm not sure what the heck you'd call the last 28 years for Purdue.

 

[TC4THREE]

We are what we value.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

I guess this is intended to be a knock on IU, but you do realize that by defining "real success" as winning the NCAA, you're basically highlighting the fact that Purdue hasn't had any real success (or hasn't since 1932 if you go back pre-tournament).

If March 1987 is so far back as to be irrelevant to you, I suppose you could compare the programs across schools from that point forward.

Head to head record - 29-25 in favor of IU
B1G 10 championships - IU: 6, PU: 5
NCAA appearances - IU: 23, PU: 20 (including the 1 vacated in 1996)
S16 - IU: 9, PU: 7
FF IU: 3, PU: 0

The above 28 years overlaps with Purdue's 2 best basketball coaches, whereas for IU, the last 16 years include 2 from that dirtball Sampson and 14 years of inferior coaching from 2 individuals this board has affectionately referred to as "Dumbles the Mumbling Clown" and "Clappy McTanerson".

You may very well be right that IU fans take too much pride in our sports programs, but if IU hasn't had any real success since March 1987 - looking at the above - I'm not sure what the heck you'd call the last 28 years for Purdue.

Not wanting to get into an argument about IU, but it's interesting that you consider Painter one of Purdue's two best coaches, above Piggy Lambert. I'm a Painter supporter, but that seems pre-mature at best.

 

[jimmygoiu]

Not wanting to get into an argument about IU, but it's interesting that you consider Painter one of Purdue's two best coaches, above Piggy Lambert. I'm a Painter supporter, but that seems pre-mature at best.

I agree with you. NO way is CMP better than Piggy and HH. Eleven years, eleven years.

 

[icewind7]

Purdue is actually quite bad in this type of success, that's fact.

 

[SIBoiler2]

There's a big difference. Purdue has astronauts, leaders of industry, and well recognized scientists. IU has banners that are older than most of the posters on their Forum.

 

[Statey]

There's a big difference. Purdue has astronauts, leaders of industry, and well recognized scientists. IU has banners that are older than most of the posters on their Forum.

Not to support the IU guy's argument, but Purdue last had an alumnus on the moon in 1972. That's 15 years older than the banner you're talking about. I would guess that there as many people on this board born after '72 as there are people born after '87 on the IU board. The age of an accomplishment doesn't diminish it, sports or otherwise.

 

[SIBoiler2]

Not to support the IU guy's argument, but Purdue last had an alumnus on the moon in 1972. That's 15 years older than the banner you're talking about. I would guess that there as many people on this board born after '72 as there are people born after '87 on the IU board. The age of an accomplishment doesn't diminish it, sports or otherwise.

I would venture that the Moon has been here longer than IU and will likely be here when that last banner crumbles to dust and will still be a significant player in the world's climate long while IU will still remain IU.

 

[Statey]

I would venture that the Moon has been here longer than IU and will likely be here when that last banner crumbles to dust and will still be a significant player in the world's climate long while IU will still remain IU.

You sir are correct... and yet missing the mark on the thread. Yes, Purdue educated a man who - 14 years after he graduated and received extensive training in a rather sophisticated outfit called NASA - went on to become a member of a truly amazing crew to dock and walk on the moon.

Notwithstanding that, the OP was going down - what I consider to be - one of the more embarrassing paths a Purdue fan can take when talking about IU hoops, which is the ol' "dusty banners" argument. My interjection was only in response to your implication that the age of the accomplishment relative to the age of the average fan on the message board somehow diminished the success. It doesn't, nor does the fact that Armstrong's crew landed on the moon 45+ years ago diminish that, even though it's older. That's all I was getting at.

I realize people are a little saucy right now on account of Malik Williams, but come on. No one here is suggesting that basketball is more important than aerospace exploration.

 

[jimmygoiu]

I would venture that the Moon has been here longer than IU and will likely be here when that last banner crumbles to dust and will still be a significant player in the world's climate long while IU will still remain IU.

and after all those hundreds of years, Purdue will still be Purdue. Oh, and the moon will still be a big player in the world's climate.

 

[jimmygoiu]

There's a big difference. Purdue has astronauts, leaders of industry, and well recognized scientists. IU has banners that are older than most of the posters on their Forum.

Aren't those astronauts getting a little dusty too? All fun aside 30 years is a long time, so I am hoping for title/banner number six soon. Purdue is due for one too, I believe.