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You think the Democrat Party is anything close to what it was 4-5 decades ago?

You should go back and listen to this RINO in 1996. A lot of nonsense about fiscal responsibility, peace through strength, the perils of putting more value on the markets than the people you serve, and racism within the party. He might be the last Republican to speak at the National Convention.

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You should go back and listen to this RINO in 1996. A lot of nonsense about fiscal responsibility, peace through strength, the perils of putting more value on the markets than the people you serve, and racism within the party. He might be the last Republican to speak at the National Convention.

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Bob Dole: good man, bad presidential candidate.
 
Voting for basic human decency is a good start.
Yeah, my buddy and his wife that just had to flee LA are thrilled that Democrats who care about “human decency” have run that city into the ground. “Vote blue no matter who” ruined that once great place. What a shame.
 
“Vote blue no matter who.”
The bad guys are building hospitals on the fly, assisting the sick with naval vessels, giving money to unemployed individuals, giving free loans to business owners. The Trump administration sucks.

Do like Indy, vote blue no matter who.
 
The fact that a scumbag like Clinton was inevitably going to beat a good and decent man like Bob Dole pretty much sums up the problem.
FYI: the 1996 election was in November, 1996. The Ken Starr investigation had only uncovered some evidence to charge the Clinton's friends - the McDougalds (Whitewater) - by that time. Nothing more.
So what was the "problem" ?
 
The bad guys are building hospitals on the fly, assisting the sick with naval vessels, giving money to unemployed individuals, giving free loans to business owners. The Trump administration sucks.

Do like Indy, vote blue no matter who.
Maybe you should take a minute to educate yourself before posting one of these times.
 
Yep. And start with “human decency” the next time you vote, Sky. He’s taught you the only way to be. Vote blue no matter who. And don’t you forget it.
I don’t think you know what that is, so don’t you worry about it.
 
FYI: the 1996 election was in November, 1996. The Ken Starr investigation had only uncovered some evidence to charge the Clinton's friends - the McDougalds - by that time. Nothing more.
So what was the "problem" ?
The “problem” is being a principled conservative, war hero, nice guy with morals, etc gets you nowhere in Presidential races. Flash and charisma wins over substance and decency every time. Same reason Mitch would never have won.
 
The “problem” is being a principled conservative, war hero, nice guy with morals, etc gets you nowhere in Presidential races. Flash and charisma wins over substance and decency every time. Same reason Mitch would never have won.
Clinton's tabloid personal life aside, what exactly do Presidential historians consider the performance of that President in his 8 years in office to be ?
Answer: Above average.
Next question: What does a NON-principled, no substance, draft-dodging, non-niceguy WITHOUT morals get?
The 2016 Presidency.
 
Nah, you don’t. You worship people who support killing children. How utterly disgusting. How do you live with yourself?
Right wingers are pro birth not pro life. They only want to control women. Hitch your wagon to Trump, there are enough decent people in this country to thoroughly reject him and his supporters. Other election results have shown Trump is an anchor.
 
Right wingers are pro birth not pro life. They only want to control women. Hitch your wagon to Trump, there are enough decent people in this country to thoroughly reject him and his supporters. Other election results have shown Trump is an anchor.
No, I asked you how you lived with yourself worshiping people who support the killing of children. Don’t blame “right wingers” and deflect from your own stupidity and hypocrisy.
 
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Clinton's tabloid personal life aside, what exactly do Presidential historians consider the performance of that President in his 8 years in office to be ?
Answer: Above average.
Next question: What does a NON-principled, no substance, draft-dodging, non-niceguy WITHOUT morals get?
The 2016 Presidency.
You’re making my point for me. Thank you.
 
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No, I asked you how you lived with yourself worshiping people who support the killing of children. Don’t blame “right wingers” and deflect from your own stupidity and hypocrisy.
Stupidity and hypocrisy, no I’m not a conservative. Who said anything about worshipping? You’re projecting yourself onto other people again.
 
Stupidity and hypocrisy, no I’m not a conservative. Who said anything about worshipping? You’re projecting yourself onto other people again.
"Vote blue no matter who." Which one of us is "beholden to masters" as you once put it? You always dodge that question for whatever reason. And I can help you with the answer if you need it, it's not me.
 
"Vote blue no matter who." Which one of us is "beholden to masters" as you once put it? You always dodge that question for whatever reason. And I can help you with the answer if you need it, it's not me.
I understood that every single person in the primary is a better human being than Trump. So any of them would get my vote. Wasn’t going to protest vote if I didn’t completely agree with the eventual nominee. Every single one of the candidates would do a better job and represent the country better than Trump. I can live with myself supporting that 100%.
 
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I understood that every single person in the primary is a better human being than Trump. So any of them would get my vote. Wasn’t going to protest vote if I didn’t completely agree with the eventual nominee. Every single one of the candidates would do a better job and represent the country better than Trump. I can live with myself supporting that 100%.
And you've got the right/freedom to blindly follow whatever Democrat runs.

But please, spare me on the lectures about "human decency." That's all I ask. I'm a Lutheran who values life dearly and don't need to be told that I "don't have a clue" about "human decency" from some demented idiot like you who will never say a negative thing about a single member of a political party that supports abortion.

Thanks though but lecture others on that topic, not me.
 
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Right wingers are pro birth not pro life. They only want to control women. Hitch your wagon to Trump, there are enough decent people in this country to thoroughly reject him and his supporters. Other election results have shown Trump is an anchor.

No kidding, especially when you consider how many pro choice R's are out there like the Rep Tim Murphy (R-PA) who was really pro life until he knocked up his mistress.
 
Then why is Trump so tight with him? How do you explain that?

RINO is just a term you guys throw around at people that don't go along with everything Trump wants. I don't see any of you bitching about that RINO Graham when he's kissing trump's ass.

Pence damn near got labeled a RINO. He saved himself at the last millisecond....

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The fact that a scumbag like Clinton was inevitably going to beat a good and decent man like Bob Dole pretty much sums up the problem.

A scumbag who handed off a surplus to Dubya (since really the markets are all you guys really care about). For the record, had Dole won he would have made a fine President. Just like McCain would have been a fine President. Just like John Kerry would have been a fine President. One thing they had in common is competentcy.
 
The “problem” is being a principled conservative, war hero, nice guy with morals, etc gets you nowhere in Presidential races. Flash and charisma wins over substance and decency every time. Same reason Mitch would never have won.

true, its not just that the people are a problem/bad, its the system
 
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